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fixed.

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I couldn't help but post a comment that Tom Brady made at the Bucs White House visit.....

That was pretty funny. Saw it live and laughed my butt off.

j/c

DEA agent photographed with badge, gun displayed during Capitol riots charged

Mark Ibrahim posed for multiple photographs outside the Capitol on Jan. 6, with his DEA badge and gun displayed, but told DOJ agents they were "never exposed."

WASHINGTON — A special agent with the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) is the latest in a string of law enforcement officers to be charged in the Capitol riots. Agent Mark Ibrahim posed for several photos taken outside the Capitol on Jan.6, with his DEA badge and gun clearly displayed, but allegedly lied about whether they were ever exposed, according to the Department of Justice.

The charges against Ibrahim include:

Entering and remaining in a restricted building or grounds;
Carrying a firearm on those grounds;
Stepping/climbing on/ removing or in any way injuring property on Capitol grounds while carrying a firearm;
Falsely stating that he never displayed his badge or firearm.

In a statement of facts, the DOJ references nine different images that place Ibrahim on Capitol grounds on Jan. 6; all the images and videos used as evidence show Ibrahim on the outside of the Capitol building.

"The photographs are of such high resolution that the serrations on the slide of Ibrahim's DEA firearm are visible," the DOJ said.

According to the DOJ, Ibrahim had given notice to the DEA of his intention to resign and was on personal leave from the agency on Jan. 6; he had no law enforcement-related duties at the Capitol that day. WhatsApp group chat messages between Ibrahim and at least five other law enforcement officers also reference Ibrahim carrying his "duty weapon and badge/creds."

"I had my creds," Ibrahim said during an interview with DOJ officers on March 15. "I had my firearm, and my badge on me... But never exposed... Not that I know of.”

During those interviews, Ibrahim claimed he had attended the riots with a friend who had been "asked by the FBI to document the event," and said he went to help his friend.

According to court documents, when the friend was also questioned by DOJ agents, he denied being under any directive by the FBI and said Ibrahim had made that story up to "cover his ass." The friend told the DOJ agent that Ibrahim was instead attending the events at the Capitol to "promote himself" and create a stage to launch a "Liberty Tavern" political podcast and cigar brand after he left the DEA.

DOJ investigation shows that Ibrahim was steps away from where Ashli Babbitt was loaded into an ambulance at 3 p.m. after she was shot by an officer inside the Capitol building. Ibrahim posted video footage of her being loaded into the ambulance to his WhatsApp group chat, court documents say.

Shortly afterwards, Ibrahim moved to the Peace Monument near First Street NW and Pennsylvania Avenue NW and recorded himself delivering a monologue while standing on the Peace Monument.

In the six months since the attack, the DOJ has arrested more than 500 people, 200 of whom are accused of assaulting police officers. More than 50 of those people are current or former members of the military and at least 14 were current or former law enforcement officers.

https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/natio...56-8f8f4f3c7443

ABSOLUTELY. She went after lawmakers during an insurrection. I know the right is hearing propaganda like she's a martyr, but she was only an idiot.

Did I say that? Show me where I said she deserved to die.

What she deserved is to be arrested and tried.

But, just like if a person breaks into your home and threatens your safety or the safety of your family, and you shoot and kill them, how long do you think you'd get in prison?

NOT ONE DAMN DAY.. So take your silly insane and crazy excuse for a meaningful comeback and shove it.

Aren't the "conservatives" usually the party of law and order, and "If you just listen to the cop, you won't get shot" crowd?

Also, if that was your home, and she broke a window and tried to illegally enter, would you shoot?

It's sad that she got shot and killed, but she brought that on herself.

Oh, the irony.

I'm not sure you understand irony. Let me give you an example you might understand:

On Jan 6th 2021 a large crowd of Trump supporters claiming to be patriots stormed the Capitol building that houses the US Congress. These so called patriots were there to rain mayhem on the peaceful transfer of power to a new legally and duly elected POTUS. They entered the capitol building after hearing Donald John Trump claim the election was stolen and they needed to fight to preserve our democracy.

In fact what they did was to hold a traitorous insurrection in an effort to keep a would be dictator in power and to usher fascist autocratic rule into the oval office of the USA. A moron duped the brain dead masses into attempting a fascist coup d'etat in the USA! There's a bit of irony for you.

BUT THAT'S NOT ALL.

Since the coup was attempted by the GOP, the GOP has done everything they can to derail formal investigations into the day and to waterdown what actually happened. They started out calling it a riot, then an attempted coup, but suddenly started talking about it being just tourists, then they try to make a martyr out of the girl shot in the face by those assigned to protect our lawmakers. Now this cop is having his head called for by Trump and all the dumbasses that watch fox drivel every night. The traitors want blood for her death and want to ruin the cop that shot her... the party of law and order... the party of 'patriots'... the party of back the blue... these are the fine people literally trying to destroy what's left of our democracy. There's more irony for you.

I could go on all day, but it doesn't matter. Talking to the right is tantamount to an exercise in futility, mental masterbation, or slow death by poison from their toxic BS. If you support the right and wonder why people like me are through with all of you, well now you know why. I used to think there were some good people on the right, but IF there ever were, there are none now. The right has chosen to align itself with fascists, white supremacists, racists, and the fat orange autocrat that leads them... if you are part of that in any way, you are about as un-American as they get. Socialists, communists, leftists, libtards, murderers, and thieves all rank higher in the social order of the world than Nazis. And they always will. Put that in your pipe and puff some irony.

Non-Violent Protester Gets 8 Months for Entering Capitol–Hundreds of BLM Riot Cases Dropped

Kristina Wong

20 Jul 2021


A man who engaged in non-violent protest at the Capitol on January 6 was sentenced to eight months in prison this week for obstructing an official proceeding, while hundreds charged in violent riots last summer have seen their cases dropped.

Paul Allard Hodgkins, 38, of Tampa, Florida, was sentenced Monday after he pleaded guilty to a single felony count of obstructing an official proceeding, after he was identified in videos and photos inside the Senate chamber carrying a Trump 2020 flag.

While the count carries a maximum sentence of 20 years in prison, and prosecutors asked for 18 months, Hodgkins — who did not engage in any violence or property damage — received eight months, the longest punishment of three sentenced so far.

U.S. District Court Judge Randolph Moss told Hodgkins, “Although you were only one member of a larger mob, you actively participated in a larger event that threatened the Capitol and democracy itself.”

“The damage that was caused that way was way beyond a several-hour delay of the vote certification,” Moss added. “It is a damage that will persist in this country for several decades.”

Mona Sedky, an assistant U.S. attorney argued that imposing prison time “will send a loud and clear message to other would-be rioters that if and when they’re caught, they will face a serious sentence. So there won’t be a next time.”

Meanwhile, hundreds of people who were arrested in connection with riots last summer have seen their charges dismissed.According to a June 2021 analysis of New York Police Department data by NBC New York, there were 485 arrests in Manhattan, but 222 had their cases were dropped and 73 got lesser accounts. Another 40 cases involved juveniles and were sent to family court, and 128 cases remained open. In the Bronx, of 118 arrests made, 73 cases were dismissed, 18 cases remained open, and there were only 19 convictions on counts like trespassing that carried no jail time.

According to a September 2020 Associated Press report, there were already more than 300 arrests on federal crimes since George Floyd’s death – violent crimes including arson — for throwing Molotov cocktails, burning police cars, and injuring law enforcement. About one-third of the cases were for crimes in Portland, including assaulting a deputy U.S. marshal with a baseball bat, setting fires and setting off explosives at the federal courthouse and throwing rocks at officers.

Four rioters who took part in pro-BLM riots last summer did receive jail time, however, but for setting fire to the Minneapolis Police Department’s Third Precinct headquarters and causing $12 million in damages. A September 2020 report by Axios said there was an estimated $1 billion-plus in riot damage after Floyd’s death — the most expensive in history.

So far, two others have received sentences in connection with the January 6 Capitol riot — Anna Morgan-Lloyd of Bloomington, Indiana, 49, was sentenced to 36 months of probation after pleading guilty to one charge of demonstrating in a Capitol building; and Michael Curzio of Summerfield, Florida, plead guilty to the same charge and was sentenced to six months in prison, but since he had been in custody for that amount of time since his arrest, he served no additional jail time.


https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/...-cases-dropped/

Maybe someone can confirm. I read that the guy with Viking horns continues to be denied bail. Is this true?

I am no fan of the guy by any means, but to deny bail seems a little over the top.

Again, I don't know if this is true. Does anybody know?

As of July 7th he was still in jail.. I've not seen where he's been released.. So if I was a betting man, I'd bet he's still in the can.

I have shoved it...right in your face.

Charles Manson never got bail either.

Well, if you want to talk in extremes that have nothing to do with anything... neither did Joan Of Arc.

You crack me up.

Well all three were murderous cult leaders. BUT you are right, maybe I should have compared him to the traitor Benedict Arnold not getting bail.

What's laughable is comparing him to tourists or even giving a damn if he doesn't get bail. This guy is traitorous trash and can rot in jail as far as I'm concerned.

I see that serious discussion isn't possible in here.

Think what you want. Reasonable bail is a right granted to all but the most violent or those who pose the greatest flight risk.

As it is, it looks like we are holding political prisoners.

Right out of the toolbox.

I'm not sure that trying to install a dictator into power allows for bail. I'm not sure a traitorous insurrection allows for bail. Maybe you can show an example of where it does?

I'm also pretty sure when a mob puts hangs up a noose, sreams "hang Mike Pence" goes into that same building threatening to kill our lawmakers, then tries to get into the chamber where those lawmakers are, that doesn't justify shooting them.

None of that was done over the summer yet people are trying to compare the two as equal.

Fifth grade response.. I honestly thought better of you... I was wrong again....

Let's phrase it in a manner they're far more familiar with.

The officer was justified in his actions.

The officer was in fear for his life.

In the end black people who have been arrested for pot will serve longer and harsher sentences than those who smeared poop in our nation's capital and beat police officers on January 6th in an attempt to over turn the election results. And, if Republican state legislators have their way students will never have to confront those facts because it may make them "feel guilt".

That works for me.

Pretty simple and I'm confused why it's so damn hard for those on the right to follow and understand it.

Person breaks into a facility they shouldn't be in, commits crimes like damaging property and in the process gets shot by a cop doing his/her job.

What's so frickin hard to grasp there.

Oh,, Ok,, Trump wants to know. Gaitz Wants to know. Jordan wants to know,, who shot her? As if that makes a lick of difference.

I'm simply astounded by the that thinking.

If death is the price of breaking and entering and vandalism, then Im Ok with all those BLM looters being killed.

Is it still astounding?

If the stinking OHIO legislature had its way we'd all be living in a society like the handmaid's tale. That seems true for all the southern states too. I almost wish we could split the country in two just to see how all the dem haters get by without the west coast, New York, Chicago, and the new england dem states. I think these cities/states represent about 65% of the economy IIRC.

We would pack up our mothers and move to a rational state in a heartbeat if that were to ever happen.

PUH-lease! You would be ok with it even if there was no reason to kill them. And don't try to deny what your posts have pretty much shown to be your nature.

Whoosh

Exactly. Why I say as a nation we must look into what awful, autrocious, activites the democrat leftists engaged in, systematically, for decades, which culminated into a crescendo of lying and taking over,

that would drive these,... people.... who were carrying these political signs, to do what happened on the grounds that day.

"The Devils made me do it.
I was a good person until they made me a bad person.
It's not my fault."


This is a quick distillation of how absurd you sound.
'Personal responsibility' aren't just two random words in Webster's. These people made conscious choices to do what they did. Please feel free to accuse them of their transgressions in the same fashion you use to accuse their "trigger folk."

Thanks in advance.

When you say "overturn the election results"
You need to include their side vastly held the reality that the election was stolen.

At the very least what Nov 3-4 2020 shows is a nationaly broadcast breakdown of the election, and it's counting process, on a national scale.

This was the end game of a process in which the Democrats had spent many months, a couple of years at least, going state by state, county by county, through courts to change the processes, to allow for cheating, or at least the inability to stop cheating, often the inability to observe cheating, in the faking and falsifying of the integrity of the vote and it's count.

While the Republicans entered each of those individual court cases, state by state, county by county, for 2 years approximately, often arguing the courts had no jurisdiction to rule on or allow any changes,
changes such as, creating ways to vote from anywhere and everywhere at any time from all over creation, by anyone whether living or dead, real or made up, without an ability for verification.

Courts had no jurisdiction to rule on or allow any changes or create changes because,
the paper document of the constitution of the USA only allows or state legislatures to change states' elections processes.

Yet the democrats totally ignored the paper constituions' written word, and circumvented the process or even the legitimacy of the state legislatures' of various and all 50 states,
with media 'air superiority' -total control of the media, to only allow the viewpoint that the election rulings by courts
fought for 2 years, which allow cheating by falsification and no way to stop falsification even by abilities to observe it,

Therefore, the question becomes. When Federal politicians take the oath to defend the constitution of the USA against all enemies foreign and domestic,

if the democrats have superseded and ignored the words of the paper document, and demanded a false narrative that support for said oath is support for the instituted establishment politician contolled left leaning media dominated viewpoint,

then who has violated the constitution and who has stood up for it? Who has violated the constitution and who has stood up for it.

Both sides, would claim, the moral superiority of standing up for the constitution of the USA,

Only one side did try to dominate a new reality by suppressing all other viewpoints, to support their lie, <the left,
and only one side stuck with the truth as the constitution was written
to the point of defeat by a media driven world <the right.

So in the end what has become is an unknown hostile reality wherein did the democrats take over the constituon,
have the democrats taken over the government, they did surpass the constituoin, they did ignore the call for only election changes were possible by state legislatures.

The thing is, when it comes to the democrats, imo, they only live in false realities, that's why they insist to shut everyone else up! Shut everyone else up who won't believe their lies! Because they can't live with the truth.

"These people made conscious choices to do what they did. Please feel free to accuse them of their transgressions in the same fashion"

Now are you talking about the democrats ^ and all they did to overthrow and end free and fair elections in the US.
This is a "quick distillation" of how you sound.

Is death the price for standing up for the Constitution of the United States.
Patrick Henry said Live Free or Die!

No.
I am actually referring to the people that this thread is about.

There is no shifty ass one about ISM that you can pull off that's going to detract me from what's really going on.

Thanks for playing, try again.
(Drop another token in the slot, loser.)

Ironically hilarious coming from you since everything intelligent is over your head.

Everything beyond that in your last post, wasn't your best work, so i'll ignore it, you are better than that.
I truly can't yet figure what you intended by the initials ISM.

What you just said is akin to an abuser yelling "Why do you make me hit you!?"

incorrect and inaccurate.

voice to speech/autocorrect

There is no shifty ass whataboutism that you can pull off that's going to detract me from what's really going on.


You aren't the one to critique the relative quality of my posts.
You'd need more intellect, scholastic acumen and basic English coherence to qualify for that.