I play in 2 keeper money leagues. In the league in question Rodgers and Dak Prescot are the 2 QB's I planned on keeping. If he does retire, I'll have to keep either Derek Carr or Baker, as both are on my roster at this point. We cut the current roster down to just the starters before the final preseason game and draft our reserves 4 days later.
Baker is my guy, but he isn't all that great in fantasy, and at $400 entry each year, I don't play homer ball.
I won the league last year, so I probably won't get a shot at a Trey Lance or one of the other running QB's...shoot, it will hurt with Devonte Adams in both of my leagues...ding, dang, and dong!
I will probably end up keeping Baker. Maybe this is the year he breaks out passing the ball.
dang.
If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
If he announces his retirement I highly doubt he'll stop playing. He's trying to force his way into a trade.
Imagine for a second Ryan Tannehill suffers a season ending injury in week 3. Tell me the Titans aren't going to be all in trading for the rights to Aaron Rodgers. With Julio, Henry, Brown and Kizer as your back up? You think they roll the dice with Kizer?
I play in 2 keeper money leagues. In the league in question Rodgers and Dak Prescot are the 2 QB's I planned on keeping. If he does retire, I'll have to keep either Derek Carr or Baker, as both are on my roster at this point. We cut the current roster down to just the starters before the final preseason game and draft our reserves 4 days later.
Baker is my guy, but he isn't all that great in fantasy, and at $400 entry each year, I don't play homer ball.
I won the league last year, so I probably won't get a shot at a Trey Lance or one of the other running QB's...shoot, it will hurt with Devonte Adams in both of my leagues...ding, dang, and dong!
I will probably end up keeping Baker. Maybe this is the year he breaks out passing the ball.
dang.
At 400 dollars I won't tell you to keep Baker or Derek, but I will suggest Sam Ehlinger, behind Wentz in Indy. If you have to look for a rookie who may fall. It's a pretty good year to pick a rookie keeper qb, also mentions, the Bears, then the Patriots guys, then Trask I think in tampa. But, who would be avail. Board: 1.Justin Fields 2. Mac Jones Patriots? if I remembered the name right. 3. Ehlinger or Trask 4. Trask or Ehlinger, flip flopping on I think Trask could be better in 3-4 years, but Ehlinger for one year definitely.
Can Deshaun Watson play better for the Browns, than Baker Mayfield would have? ... Now the Games count.
Frankly, I no longer care what Rodgers does. He has really come off pretty bad in this whole situation.
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
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Aaron Rodgers’ agent is Carson Palmer’s agent. This not the same playbook as Palmer with Cincinnati, it’s the same play. Now they just need Al Davis to die and Hue Jackson to bail them out.
Frankly, I no longer care what Rodgers does. He has really come off pretty bad in this whole situation.
This is my first post about the whole Rodgers thing. Here is what I care about. Other fans of other teams like Green Bay have ridiculed me as a Browns fan for years. Particularly my two brothers-in-law who are big-time cheese turds. One of them even lives in Cleveland!?! What galls me the most is they take time out to dump on the Browns who aren't even in the same conference with GB. So I desperately want this to go badly for their franchise. I already told my wife if Rodgers leaves Green Bay I am going to talk about Green Bay so bad her brothers are going to want to fight!
This single colossal blunder, to mismanage and turn a first-ballot HOF QB against his team is more stupid and more inept than all the dumb stuff the Browns have done since 1999.
GB goes 13-3. Loses to the Bucs in NFC title game. Rodgers wins the MVP. He is 37. Has only played with GB. He won a Super Bowl there. He was the Super Bowl MVP. He is a three time MVP. And the accolades roll on.
And the knuckleheads at GB decide to jerk him around and make him think about retiring?
What?
Does GB want a shot at winning the Super Bowl this year?
mmmmm?
Why can they not smooth this over for at least another year?
I went to the game the last time we played in GB...we sucked but had a good time there.
Midway through the second quarter a younger-than-me-lady sitting in front of us turned around and said "What is the deal with your QB?" We could only shrug our shoulders...our QB was Weeden.
Later, I said to my buddy that this younger-than-me-lady only knows (2) QBs as being the QB in her GB fandom lifetime...her LIFETIME. One was Brett Favre...the other Rogers. She had no idea what it's like to NOT have a HOF QB leading her team...crazy.
I went to the game the last time we played in GB...we sucked but had a good time there.
Midway through the second quarter a younger-than-me-lady sitting in front of us turned around and said "What is the deal with your QB?" We could only shrug our shoulders...our QB was Weeden.
Later, I said to my buddy that this younger-than-me-lady only knows (2) QBs as being the QB in her GB fandom lifetime...her LIFETIME. One was Brett Favre...the other Rogers. She had no idea what it's like to NOT have a HOF QB leading her team...crazy.
I was watching a playoff game with a GB fan when Rodgers got knocked out of the and Seneca Wallace went in. The guy literally couldn't understand why the offense suddenly looked so bad. I swear I saw the smoke coming out of his ears trying to figure out why passes were falling incomplete, sacks, etc.
There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.
I was just telling a very similar story as Willie. Just a certain portion of our own fanbase has seen nothing but inept football for most of the past 2 decades, a couple others have only seen the opposite.
There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.
It's funny how your paradigm defines a lot when it comes to football. It'll be interesting to see how the Packers eventually perform without him. They could be in for some rough years.
Blue ostriches on crack float on milkshakes between the sidewalk titans of gurglefitz. --YTown
When I explained that this is what it was like for teams that don't have a future HOF QB (the vast majority of the NFL), his look was priceless.
There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
He's a little full of himself, but he did a pretty good job of communicating his frustrations.
There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.
What I saw in that press conference was a guy that wants more from his org. I know it's hard to win a Superbowl, but Aaron Rodgers only has the 1 win, and that's despite being one of if not the best QBs in just about every year he's started. It seems to me that he feels he's done all he can and is just kinda fed up.
There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.
This is what I took out of the press conference and I stopped about 5-7 minutes in. That was enough for me.
(1) He wanted more say in personnel decisions and macro team planning and didn't get it. (2)He also wanted vets to remain on the team, that if I recall correctly, most of those players after they were released or not re-signed didn't amount to much afterwards.
Maybe the reason (1) didn't happen is a direct correlation to (2).
To add to that, they have been deep in the playoffs a bunch of times throughout his career, without him getting much support.
I can't imagine how he'd do if he had a Tampa situation, or hell, had been the QB for the Browns (this is not a dig on Mayfield, who I am a huge fan of).
Blue ostriches on crack float on milkshakes between the sidewalk titans of gurglefitz. --YTown
My view is and has been that employers treat people like their slaves a thing that they own. I have voiced my objections to this type of treatment on this forum and although this topic is quiet a bit different in scope it's a snap shot of how ownership (wow, ownership) views employees no matter how much they put their heart and soul into something ownership across all employers in todays world view and treat people just like this, they believe they won you, and the public supports them in this that they own you.
They interfere with their private lives and they show a lack of respect for the very people who are putting the food on their table. They are allowed to make their own set of rules and the general thought is that the worker has no rights, that all the rights belong to the employer and if you don't like it quit, or work for someone else. Rogers can't work for someone else and when he is viewed as used up ownership will toss him on a scrap heap.
As long as I live I will never understand why anyone would sign over their ownership to anyone or in a free society we wouldn't put protections in place to insure their is no abuse. But here we are 2021 and slavery has never been more alive. But people can't see it, because they simply can't admit to themselves that they have signed away all their rights up to and including their ownership.
But hey those are the rules and if you don't like being a slave then starve. And that is what not just Roger's situation has brought to light but nearly every single person in this country is faced with this ownership thing, and strangely most people agree with it. I find it truly weird that people can't see how truly enslaved they are much less them admit it to themselves. If for instance and this happens every day someone can't change jobs because they can't run the risk of not having health coverage even though another opportunity would lead to a more secure and prosperous future for them are in fact enslaved to insurance or in this case the employer who provides that benefit. If on just that issue we removed that problem how many people would be free to retire, change jobs, etc. etc.
I have said enough and I suppose most of you will push back against what I have said because you have bought into the idea of selling yourself. And the topper IMO is ownership has rights that trump our rights!
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AKA Upbeat Dawg
Can't believe I am in a group that is comprised of the best NOT just fans but people on the planet.
His supporting cast has definitely left a lot to be desired. If we had to pick one thing, I think it has to be that (that doesn't make your other points any less significant). I think his feeling they aren't putting enough around him is leading to his demanding to be more involved in office stuff.
While most successful operations have more of a "stay in your lane" type of mentality, when one person/group isn't delivering then it invites others to come in and try to help/correct.
There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.
You make some interesting points that apparently some others on this Board can not see.
"shut up and dribble"
Sports in some ways is similar to music, art, and literature.
Those who have achieved a measure of success want some control over what has got them to that level.
In music record companies controlled artists. "Play the hits" do not step away from what sells. "This is who you are do not change."
Like being type cast as an actor.
Rodgers has earned the right to be "involved."
I thought his press conference was one of the most honest well thought out responces I have heard in the sports world. He was not vague. He was specific. He made his case accurately.
The NFL talks "family" like a local car dealership. When in fact they could not be further. They will control you and dump you. You are not "family."
In his case his input has value. He may know things they do not.
Should he make or be consulted on all personnel decisions? No. Should he be consulted on decisions that effect the offense? Yes. His input is coming from experience and the play on the field.
Not everyone is Aaron Rodgers or Lebron James.
I don't think a record company needs to tell Bob Dylan about song writing either.
In our own lives it is up to us to not be exploited.
Personally, I made a living in sales. If I sold stuff I got paid. If I did not. I didn't get paid and got fired. I had no control over the products, services, pricing, market and competition. However, if I felt the company was in a negative position that affected my ability to earn.
I could quit and go to where I felt I had a competitive advantage. In essence I was a free agent.
It is not a position that is comfortable for all people.
Aaron Rodgers strikes me as a man who is comfortable in who he is.
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