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Stop making **** up:

Chicago Covid Deaths in 2021: 1334
Chicago Homicides in 2021: 448

https://www.chicago.gov/city/en/sites/covid-19/home/latest-data.html
https://graphics.suntimes.com/homicides/

Maybe what we need to do is CUT the unvaccinated out from doing the things they want to do,,

In other words, if you are dumb enough to skip the vax, then you gotta wear a mask or you can't come into the store or resturant.

It's perfectly clear that those that are fighting the Vax are the very ones that are continuing to spread COvid.

In other words, it's their fault that we are going up in cases rather than down.

So let's put the blame exactly where it belongs... On the AntiVaxers. And on those that keep promoting that myth.

People like Matt Gaitz and Margorie Green... It's my guess that they took the Vax but are telling people to not take it.

You want to end this nonsense, then make the unvaccinated outcasts... They cause trouble, lock them up.

That outta stir up some crap....LOL

So are you saying all the stats are wrong?

Where in the hell do you get your information.....Newsmax, Alex Jones, FOX? Man, expand where you get your info..

Peen won’t read/follow links. He ‘feels’ the hotspots are tied to democratic cities. That’s all he needs. Facts brought via links aren’t necessary to him.

The vast majority of them are Republicans. I mean if you actually want people to look.

Did I say that? No, I didn't.

You didn't say they were wrong. You simply said you "don't feel" those stats.

Much like how individual states were driving overall COVID numbers just before the peak, it seems like hotspots are currently driving numbers (right now the top 4 states account for roughly half of new cases).

For example, yesterday Worldometers have the county stats up for Ohio (sometimes that table is on the page, sometimes it isn't... I don't know why) and the top 2 counties (one was Cuyahoga and the other was either Columbus or Cinci, don't remember) accounted for a majority of the state's new cases.

Which makes sense as they account for most of the state’s population.

j/c

So is Louisiana, which you don't hear much about. Maybe because Im in Florida, so I hear a lot more about Florida, But even on the national news I don't see much about Louisiana.

I think that's mainly because 1 in 5 new Covid cases are in Florida. I mean 20% of new cases in one state is pretty alarming. Actually between Florida and Texas one third of all new cases are being reported. I have seen some coverage concerning Louisiana but you are right in that it is far less than Florida. Yet to some extent, as I explained, I understand why that is.

When you combine that with the fact the Desantis is one of the most outspoken governors in terms of punishing those wishing to put restrictions in place to help mitigate Covid you have a combination that helps paint a very clear picture.

When you start threatening to take school funding from any school requiring masks, you're going to draw attention.

I understand that, but you're also talking about the 3rd? most populated state in the country.

In that case the top three most populated states should have about 60% of all Covid cases reported.

What you have is a nation with a population of 331,002,651 people. With one in five reported Covid cases being attributed to a population of 21.48mil people.

The math isn't good.

nah... it's because they are run by Democrats. I mean, it's only logical, right?

No,, not in so many words,, thus the Question.. just to be sure, you may not have used those words, but what you said indicates that's what you mean..

Arkansas governor says he regrets signing ban on mask mandates

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch...n-mask-mandates

My sympathy for him and the voters that put him and the republicans in charge: zero.

Life sucks, then you die.

This is the part of being an elected official that confuses me.

When you are elected, job one is to serve the public and to me that included protecting them in any way you can.

In this case, wearing masks is unpopular.. I get that. But can be the right thing to do in certain circumstances.

If it's going to cost an elected official his or her job, then so be it. That's my view.. Doing the right thing is the only answer.

thats the problem.

people want to ban things that are unpopular. "i don't like something so lets make it a law to ban health policies".

hope his state getting ran through by Rona was worth whatever popularity contest he was trying to win.

Basically, they play politics with peoples lives.. They follow the party line... Look, I'm not saying this is all democrat or republican.. it's both.. They both do it...

j/c:

Israeli scientist says COVID-19 could be treated for under $1/day

Double-blind study shows ivermectin reduces disease’s duration and infectiousness • FDA and WHO caution against its use

https://www.jpost.com/health-science/isr...der-1day-675612

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That's good news!

From the FDA.....

Why You Should Not Use Ivermectin to Treat or Prevent COVID-19

https://www.fda.gov/consumers/consumer-u...revent-covid-19

The same goes to DeSantis.

i agree. but i'll at least shoot the governor some bail here: at least he exactly admitted he was wrong to sign the bill. i was expecting a meteor to strike the planet after hearing a politician admit he was wrong about something.

desantis sure as hell won't. i hope im wrong about that, but who knows.

The vast majority that haven't gotten the vaccine are republicans? Or did you mean'white'?

If you meant 'white', I'd agree with you, as white's make up somewhere around 60% of the population. So, obviously if say 20% don't get the vaccine........

Last I saw, somewhere around 60% of whites got the vaccine. (I may be wrong on that by some percent) while only 19% of blacks have. Now, blacks are somewhere around 13% of the population.

I've not seen a breakdown of 'party' as far as who's getting the vaccine, and who's not.

Who Are the Unvaccinated in America? There’s No One Answer.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/31/us/virus-unvaccinated-americans.html




The 4 main fault lines that divide the vaccinated and the unvaccinated

Age, race, income, and, of course, politics.

https://www.vox.com/22587443/covid-19-vaccine-refusal-hesitancy-variant-delta-cases-rate




Unvaccinated Americans Whiter, More Republican Than Vaccinated

https://www.voanews.com/covid-19-pandemic/unvaccinated-americans-whiter-more-republican-vaccinated




COVID-19 is spreading fast among Texas’ unvaccinated. Here’s who they are and where they live.

There are two main groups within Texas’ unvaccinated population: white conservatives in rural areas, and Hispanic and Black people in big cities.

https://www.texastribune.org/2021/08/03/unvaccinated-texas-demographics/

That admission is definitely a unicorn-capturing moment. It's usually only found when a politician is about to leave office for good.

That's interesting.

With the "wait and see" demographic mentioned in there, I'd like to throw something else out as well.

My wife had an interesting conversation at lunch today with two of her coworkers, both of whom are black. They were both vaccinated, but they said that there is a hesitancy within the African American community to get vaccinated due to an element of mistrust of institutions based upon the historical mistreatment that has existed.

My wife and I obviously don't have any insight on that perspective, but I thought I'd pull on that thread and ask those on this board who do have that perspective whether that actually plays into the hesitancy of the AA community that has not yet been vaccinated?

He is such a smart guy.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/florida/

Watching local news out of Jacksonville (working down in the area currently), hospitals are packed with Covid patients. Short on nursing staff and supplies, physicians are pleading with local Gov't and people to get vaxxed.

DeSantis may have hedged his political bet in the wrong direction...

You should run for Governor and unseat him!


Worldometers is owned and operated by a company by the name Dadax.It’s unique website that provides real time statistics about population, COVID-19 and several other topics. Worldometers was founded in 2008 by a group of researches, scholars and statisticians.

Initially, the website was named Worldometers but in 2020 it was renamed Worldometer.It uses the domain name https://www.worldometers.info

Worldometer receives an average of 1 billion visits per month. The website earns through Google AdSense with its monthly revenue being in excess of $500,000.

The company’s revenue and traffic grow tremendously during the Coronavirus outbreak. Traffic numbers rose from an average of 20 million per month to 1 billion. Consequently, revenue numbers ballooned to cross $500,000 mark.

https://www.webhostingvoice.com/2020/04/15/who-owns-worldometers/

I want nothing to do with Christ either though. Someone to keep an eye on though is Anna Eskamani from here in Orlando. She’s gotten tons of support from across the state for how she dealt with COVID and the Florida unemployment system. Literally the DEO referred people to her to help them out with getting through with the DEO.

I’ve got some extreme right leaning people who still believe Trump could do no wrong at work and they all said they’d vote for her in a heartbeat because she helped them when they were furloughed and DeSantis was doing what he always does and deflected the blame by saying all eligible claims were paid and anything not paid is because the individual did something wrong. That was absolutely not the case and she exposed it all. The exact quote was “I don’t agree with her politely but there is no denying that she doesn’t care who you are, she just wants to genuinely help anyone she can.”

My buddy in Ft Myers has a similar sentiment. Crist flipped parties. He will vote against DeSantis, however.

from the article...

Voters in the May poll expressed greater optimism that fellow Democratic gubernatorial candidate Nikki Fried, the state’s current agriculture commissioner, would be able to beat DeSantis in 2022.

I know nothing bout her.

Going to be a fascinating race.

DeathSanttis is an ass.

I could not care less about who owns the website, are the numbers correct? If so Florida has a huge spike in covid to match virtually any point up to now. His policies are dumb/crazy.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/nearly-72k-children-test-positive-080010432.html

USA TODAY

Nearly 72K children test positive in the past week; heart problems associated with vaccines are uncommon, study shows: COVID-19 updates
Steven Vargas and Elinor Aspegren, USA TODAY
Thu, August 5, 2021, 4:00 AM·7 min read


As the school year approaches in most of the country, there's increasing evidence — both numerical and anecdotal — of children's vulnerability to the coronavirus and its highly transmissible delta variant.

The American Academy of Pediatrics said that as of July 29, almost 4.2 million children have tested positive for the virus since the pandemic began, nearly 72,000 of them in the last week. That's almost twice as many as the 39,000 infections from the previous week. For perspective, about 79,000 Americans of all ages tested positive in a week of late June.

Two children with COVID-19 died over the weekend at Le Bonheur Children's Hospital in Memphis, Tennessee.

One of the children was a patient at the hospital, said Le Bonheur's Dr. Nick Hysmith, a pediatric infectious disease specialist. Another child died during transit to the hospital, he said. The child was coming to the regional hospital from a neighboring hospital.

"It's important for everyone to know that we're seeing sicker kids, we're seeing more kids be admitted that are sick with actual COVID illness, and that those kids, some of them are in our intensive care unit and some of them are intubated," Hysmith said.

"I just think it's really important for the public to realize that kids are getting sick," Hysmith said. "This is happening."



Also in the news:

►The Food and Drug Administration is aiming to fully approve Pfizer-BioNTech’s coronavirus vaccine by the start of next month, according to The New York Times.

►Nearly all foreign visitors will be required to be vaccinated against COVID-19 before entering the U.S., according to a plan the Biden administration is working on, The Associated Press reported.

►Officials in the city of Los Angeles are considering a proposal that would require people to show proof they've been vaccinated to enter restaurants, museums, gyms and other public spaces, following in the footsteps of New York City, which became the first in the country to require proof of the COVID-19 vaccine to enter many indoor public spaces this week.

►Texas state health officials say new coronavirus cases, hospitalizations and deaths in the state are showing steeper jumps than past surges in the pandemic. In a video conference Wednesday, a spokesman for the Department of State Health Services said the rolling seven-day average of new virus infections cases has increased 92% from last week, while hospitalizations rose 49% and deaths from COVID-19 grew by 15%.

►The number of students and staff at an east Arkansas school district who have quarantined because of a coronavirus outbreak has grown to more than 700.

📈Today's numbers: The U.S. has had more than 35.3 million confirmed COVID-19 cases and 614,800 deaths, according to Johns Hopkins University data. The global totals: More than 200.1 million cases and 4.2 million deaths. More than 165.8 million Americans — 49.8% of the population — have been fully vaccinated, according to the Center for Disease Control and Prevention.

📘What we're reading: Chicago's Lollapalooza is a "recipe for disaster," experts warn. Should more music festivals be canceled amid COVID-19?


Here's what we know about the lambda variant

More than 90% of new coronavirus infections across the U.S. are from the delta variant, according to the latest data from the CDC. The primary delta strand accounted for 83.4% of infections in the two-week period that ended July 31, the CDC says. Other delta strands represented another 10%.

But other variants are causing concerns on social media as well, such as the lambda variant.

The lambda variant, first detected in Peru in August 2020, made its way to the U.S. for the first time on July 22 and now accounts for 1,053 cases in the country. The World Health Organization and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention both don't classify the variant as a variant of concern, a classification given to both alpha and delta. It accounts for a handful of cases in 28 countries, according to GISAID, an initiative dedicated to promoting COVID-19 data through genomic sequencing.

Though some studies say that the variant could be resistant to vaccines or highly transmissible, the lambda variant isn't showing signs to spark concern about it becoming the dominant strain of COVID-19 in the United States like delta, Dr. Abhijit Duggal, a staff ICU physician and director for critical care research for the medical ICU at the Cleveland Clinic, told the Nashville Tennessean.



Fayetteville State University freshman wins vaccine lottery drawing

A freshman at Fayetteville State University is the third winner of the $1 million COVID-19 vaccine lottery, North Carolina Gov. Roy Cooper announced Thursday during his COVID-19 briefing.

Audrey Chavous, 18, of Winston-Salem, North Carolina, was selected at random on July 21 for the third giveaway of $1 million in North Carolina's vaccine lottery. Chavous will start her freshman year at Fayetteville State University this fall.

The vaccine lottery in North Carolina awards $1 million to four individuals 18 years or older who choose to receive the COVID-19 vaccine. Four $125,000 scholarships are being awarded to four vaccinated individuals under the age of 18 as well.

Chavous joined the governor during his COVID-19 briefing and discussed why she chose to get vaccinated and what she plans to do with the money.

"I chose to get vaccinated, not only for the safety of other people around me, but simply for the safety of myself," she said.

- Jack Boden, The Fayetteville Observer



Barbie launches special edition dolls of prominent COVID-19 medical experts

Mattel announced Wednesday that they would be creating a Barbie doll of Professor Sarah Gilbert, who played a crucial role in developing the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine. The barbie made in her likeness will sport her signature dark-rimmed glasses and long auburn hair while wearing professional attire.

The doll derives from Mattel’s latest #ThankYouHeroes program, according to a news release from the toy manufacturer. They will be making five other dolls of other prominent first responders in the world’s fight against COVID-19.

According to Mattel, they have five other special edition Barbies lined up: Amy O’Sullivan of the U.S.; Dr. Audrey Sue Cruz of the U.S.; Dr. Chika Stacy Oriuwa of Canada; Dr. Jaqueline Goes de Jesus of Brazil; and Dr. Kirby White of Australia.

As part of the program, Barbie will donate $5 for each special edition doll sold at participating Target stores to the First Responders Children’s Foundation, the statement said.

Gilbert told The Guardian that she thought being made into a Barbie was “very strange” but also hoped it would empower young girls.

“I am passionate about inspiring the next generation of girls into Stem careers and hope that children who see my Barbie will realize how vital careers in science are to help the world around us,” Gilbert told The Guardian. “My wish is that my doll will show children careers they may not be aware of, like a vaccinologist.”



Heart problems associated with U.S. vaccines are uncommon, research shows

For every one million Americans vaccinated against COVID-19, only 60 developed heart problems, according to a new study published in the JAMA Network Wednesday. The study found that the complications were short-lived.

Myocarditis associated with vaccination was primarily prevalent among younger male individuals within a few days after the second vaccine, the study said.

“We see that these adverse events are leading to very short and unremarkable hospital stays,” Dr. Jeremy Faust, an emergency medicine physician at Brigham and Women’s Hospital in Boston who wasn't part of the study told The New York Times. “The same can’t be said of hospitalizations for COVID-19 in this or any age group so far.”

Nikki Fried is an interesting candidate. She has a good resume, quite a few honors, seems to be interested in the environment, lobbied for marijuana in Florida.

Her biggest con is that she lobbied for marijuana, and her fiancé happens to be in the marijuana business, and some think there is a conflict of interest there.

Bam.