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I'm surprised we haven't brought in a Kicker since the injury to Parkey. In Barry I Trust, he knows lot more than any of us. I'm just surprised.....who's are current backup kicker- Miles. Go Browns!!!!


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Isn't the emergency backup kicker Gillan? I thought I read a while ago that he can kick in a pinch.


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I'm guessing we're eyeballing someone else wrapped up in a "competition" and waiting for them to be released.

I overheard Berry in the hallway saying there were no "top tier" kickers available and telling Stefanski: "Until there are we should just score touchdowns."


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I'm guessing we're eyeballing someone else wrapped up in a "competition" and waiting for them to be released.

I overheard Berry in the hallway saying there were no "top tier" kickers available and telling Stefanski: "Until there are we should just score touchdowns."



No doubt the analytics support scoring touchdowns vs field goals.


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And in the world of kicking, and the fan's perspective... "Big Week" means if he misses a kick -- he sucks and our FO has no idea what they're doing. If he makes them all -- he's the greatest thing since sliced bread and analytics really works!


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Every week is a 'big week'.


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Agree, every week is a big week for a kicker. Our draft pick has bad first game and was GONE. I don't know if our punter kicks, but he's big and has a hell of a leg. I just thought we'd bring someone in, with only 32 teams...and all the all conference kickers out there....JMHO, I'd have brought a leg in. I'm guessing/ knowing I was WRONG....go Browns!!!!


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The hammer can kick fieldgoals.


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Extra points need to be automatic.

Kicks less than 43 yards, any kick in the 0-39 yard range need to be automatic.

I don't care as much about kicks 48+ yards, being closer to 50%-60%, but extra points need to be automatic.
20-38 yard Field goals need to be automatic also.

At least feel like they are automatic

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100% correct.


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Originally Posted By: THROW LONG
Extra points need to be automatic.

Kicks less than 43 yards, any kick in the 0-39 yard range need to be automatic.

I don't care as much about kicks 48+ yards, being closer to 50%-60%, but extra points need to be automatic.
20-38 yard Field goals need to be automatic also.

At least feel like they are automatic


I honestly don't know the answer.. But has any kicker ever been perfect on PAT's


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Originally Posted By: Damanshot
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Extra points need to be automatic.

Kicks less than 43 yards, any kick in the 0-39 yard range need to be automatic.

I don't care as much about kicks 48+ yards, being closer to 50%-60%, but extra points need to be automatic.
20-38 yard Field goals need to be automatic also.

At least feel like they are automatic


I honestly don't know the answer.. But has any kicker ever been perfect on PAT's


I am sure that some have on a all-time look, but since the spot was moved back, not many. Not enough to say it should be automatic.

In addition to a perfect kick, you also need a perfect snap and a perfect hold. That is a whole lot of perfect to expect.


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j/c...sort of

That PAT wasn't just a miss. I'm not sure I've ever seen a kick go sideways like that one did. Anyway...

The kicks he did make looked like they were on the right edge...and I mean edge. Lastly...

Where is this leg strength when a 56 yarder bounces off the cross bar?

I dunno...my lack of confidence in Parkey was/is exceeded by my lack of confidence in McG.

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Haha yeah the XP was an absurd miss. It was in a DOME and from 33 yards out … and it literally maybe crossed the sideline before the end line hAHA


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Haha yeah the XP was an absurd miss. It was in a DOME and from 33 yards out … and it literally maybe crossed the sideline before the end line hAHA


I saw it, and it was beyond ugly. Were the snap and hold good?


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I honestly don't know the answer.. But has any kicker ever been perfect on PAT's


Phil Dawson missed a PAT once... ONCE.


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I honestly don't know the answer.. But has any kicker ever been perfect on PAT's


Phil Dawson missed a PAT once... ONCE.


???????

He was 518 for 531 for his career.


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I could be wrong, but I think that's a Johnny Dangerously reference.


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When he played extra points were from a much shorter distance. It's comparing apples to oranges. Phil Dawson was also one of the best kickers in the NFL when he was still playing.


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Haha yeah the XP was an absurd miss. It was in a DOME and from 33 yards out … and it literally maybe crossed the sideline before the end line hAHA



Sounds like my pitching wedge


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Oh. OK.


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I could be wrong, but I think that's a Johnny Dangerously reference.


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j/c...sort of

That PAT wasn't just a miss. I'm not sure I've ever seen a kick go sideways like that one did. Anyway...

The kicks he did make looked like they were on the right edge...and I mean edge. Lastly...

Where is this leg strength when a 56 yarder bounces off the cross bar?

I dunno...my lack of confidence in Parkey was/is exceeded by my lack of confidence in McG.



Like I said, I didn't see the kicked. I turned in around 10:15 if it was after that and was doing a few other things from time to time.

I looked around the net and couldn't find anything, be it a half search. I didn't spend a whole lot of time searching.


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I could be wrong, but I think that's a Johnny Dangerously reference.


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I could be wrong, but I think that's a Johnny Dangerously reference.


It's about time one of you bastages figured that out.


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I would be comfortable bringing Folk in to compete.


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It looks like the Patriots won’t be relying on a rookie at just quarterback to start the season.

According to ESPN’s Field Yates, New England is expected to choose Quinn Nordin over veteran Nick Folk at kicker.

Nordin struggled in the Patriots’ second preseason game, missing a 36-yard field goal wide right and a pair of extra points wide right in the matchup against Philadelphia. He also missed a 54-yard field goal wide left in the team’s preseason finale against the Giants.

Overall, Nordin was 6-of-8 on his preseason field-goal attempts after going undrafted out of Michigan this year. Veteran Nick Folk attempted only one field goal and hit it during the preseason.

In 16 games last year, Folk was 26-of-28 on field goals. He was also 30-or-33 on extra points.

Folk has been kicking since 2007 and has a career 81.4 field goal percentage.

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I would definitely take a look at this guy.

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Lions cut Zane Gonzales.


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If Verity has been around Tucker and was above average I’d take a look


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I posted this somewhere, but here is a "current", not, list of available kickers= some we know about- Verity, Balt., Slye, Carolina, Seibert, Cinc, Gonzalez, Det, Molson, GB, Badgley, LA, and last, Folk, Pats/NE....Folk is tried and true, would be a KNOWN vs. our current guy who's been cut from 5 teams.....I say we have a kickoff at the stadium...plenty of pressure and in the hard place they'd kick....I know Berry will bring a couple of these guys in.....wonder which ones. GO Browns!!! Somehow, Johnson, Chicago, left off....he could be a keeper

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If Verity has been around Tucker and was above average I’d take a look


We really need to bring in a few guys. The guy we have isn't horrible,, but he's not Phil Dawson either.. Although,, I seem to remember when Phil was at the same point in his career,, he wasn't anything to write home about either..


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Folk missed two field goals and three extra points last year. I think that is about what most kickers do, including the one we had. The can't miss guys do not exist anymore. All of them are missing extra points since they move it back, and not a one is 100% on field goals. IMO, they are all the same. the guy we have now was doing good, then he missed the extra point and is considered trash. If we sign another one, it will be the same thing.

Bring a couple in, but I wouldn't hold my breath thinking there is going to be a can't miss guy.

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JMHO, this Florida retiree thinks two legs, like Johnson/Bears and Folk/Pats should be brought in for a kickoff. Like coach said, we are all replaceable. Go Browns!!!


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Originally Posted By: Steubenvillian
Folk missed two field goals and three extra points last year. I think that is about what most kickers do, including the one we had. The can't miss guys do not exist anymore. All of them are missing extra points since they move it back, and not a one is 100% on field goals. IMO, they are all the same. the guy we have now was doing good, then he missed the extra point and is considered trash. If we sign another one, it will be the same thing.

Bring a couple in, but I wouldn't hold my breath thinking there is going to be a can't miss guy.



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