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By whom?

I am surprised you still know how to breathe.

Maybe it would be beneficial to understand this type of conflict. And who the Taliban are.

The fog of live action in a country where life carries little value. Where kids are trained to strap bombs on themselves and blow up others.

That somehow pulling out of there is going to be clean?

Biden is not without blame. No doubt. But it is not a simple problem.
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If diam is so intent on laying blame.

Then it should be applied to all those who should be blamed.

IMO it is way out of bounds to make a statement like he did to Pit. That is BS and he should apologize.

THANKS Y’all

It’s at 13 and counting with at least 18 injured … EVERYONE OF THEM BECAUSE OF AN UNFORCED ERROR … Absolutely disgraceful …

And what’s worse …. No one can get to the airport now and he’s leaving the 5169 troops ( u have to subtract the 13 that joKe got killed today and the at least 18 wounded) there as sitting ducks …. There no more than sitting ducks now, what else are they going to do …

Your boy joKe did this under the guise of ending the “war” without spilling anymore American military blood … well today was the most combat loses we’ve had in over a decade in Afghanistan … and the “war“ your boy ended hadn’t lost an American or Allie soldier in combat in 18 months … all he ended was the lives of American servicemen and 18 months of no combat deaths …

It’s to bad your boy didn’t have the gumption he had when he punked Corn Pop …

Y’All oughta feel real good about your vote today … those poor mothers, fathers, wives, girlfriends, boyfriends, children ….

And once again today almost every word out of his mouth was a big fat lie … SAD …

What’s even SADDER, it’s gonna get worse … Y’All proud of yourselves?

THANKS Y’All

bro if you feel so strongly about afghanistan, go take a flight with the other GOP losers with all your guns and go handle business.

we're all waiting.

jc

since this is clearly a yolo thread, imma pose this question to the board:

is the recent events enough for you to consider staying another 20 years in afghanistan?

seriously, you guys should tell us what you would do.

and then explain why it would work, and why anybody would go along with your plan.

Clearly a case of have no clue.

Like military intel is science. Like WMD's were everywhere.

Like any conflict with boots on the ground.

Where these people have been fighting everyday since the Russian conflict there. Where did they go?

So, on the couch remote in hand and think you know.

Monday morning quarterback with remote watching the REPLAY.

All backed with no knowledge of the regional conflict, culture, or backing.

like trump on covid
A real expert.

Oh BTW: THANKS YOUS GUYS

I see you're doubling down on using the deaths of servicemembers to make cheap jokes and (poor) political arguments. Your last 2 posts make it sound like you're happy the suicide bomber did was he did because (you think) it helps you make an argument (it doesn't, Trump was the one that made a show of ending this war by signing a toothless treaty with the Taliban and cutting out the Afghan govt).

Your posts on Afghanistan have been consistently light on facts and heavy on fiction, but that couple truly made my stomach turn.

Evacuate the civilians
Evacuate the equipment
Evacuate the troops

In that order

Then make Biden resign, because clearly he has severe mental decline

He knows that Eve, its called Intellectual Dishonesty and he’s always been one of the leaders in that category …

What’s happened here is indefensible, yet here’s the whole gang defending joKe …

ocd, pit, bone, 888, swish, ooob and the rest of the crew …

Think about this for a sec Eve, we been shooting at the Taliban for 20 years and now joKe;s relying on them for securing the airport … that;s well beyond Bizzaro world … i wouldn’t believe that in a million years if I wasn’t watching it unfold on a daily basis

THANKS Y’All

It’s futile. He clearly didn’t come here to discuss. Just to yell. He’s one of those guys that I used to like to banter with back in the day. Thought he’d be fun to have a beer with. He’s gotten caught up in the hysteria, much like many others who I’m actually much closer to in real life.

There hasn’t been this much blind hatred combined with worship of one individual in the Western world since the 30’s.

You also see the effect it has on like-minded individuals in making them sink lower in this very thread.

What’s sad, as you already know, is that I could sit on this board all day and talk about the idiocy of Democrats and Biden in a conversational manner. But this level of radicalism we see here is growing and it’s making everyone worse.

“If you can find the right balance between fear and desperation, you can make people believe anything.”

Without knowing better, I agree with the order of your first three points. When it comes to Biden, he deserves a lot of shame for how this all went down. Honestly though, in my eyes, I’m still more hesitant to have the last guy in the office than the current guy. I really don’t like Harris either. Who would the alternative be?

Pretty sure anybody not named Biden or Trump, who is under age 50 and has politcal experience with a moderate point of view (left or right). And not a criminal. Would be an OK choice.

Ha, I don’t disagree, but that doesn’t seem to be how the machine works these days.

I'd probably feel pissed about more Americans being killed if Biden's crew hadn't spent two or three days warning people it was imminent. Any time one of ours dies serving the country is a shame, but to twist and lie about how and who is responsible not only dishonors those who made that sacrifice, it also diminishes the value of their sacrifice.

I know patriotism is only a word to be used in propaganda for the right, but a few of us who served still find talk like that disgusting and unacceptable, especially from somebody who did not wear the uniform.

Honestly, criticize Biden all you want, but this I told you so happy dance about soldiers dying is a step too far.

How can anyone defend this?

U.S. officials provided Taliban with names of Americans, Afghan allies to evacuate


The White House contends that limited information sharing with the Taliban is saving lives; critics argue it's putting Afghan allies in harm's way.
U.S. Air Force loadmasters and pilots load people being evacuated from Afghanistan onto a U.S. Air Force C-17 Globemaster III.

The decision to provide specific names to the Taliban, which has a history of brutally murdering Afghans who collaborated with the U.S. and other coalition forces during the conflict, has angered lawmakers and military officials. | Master Sgt. Donald R. Allen/U.S. Air Force via AP

By LARA SELIGMAN, ALEXANDER WARD and ANDREW DESIDERIO

08/26/2021 03:28 PM EDT



U.S. officials in Kabul gave the Taliban a list of names of American citizens, green card holders and Afghan allies to grant entry into the militant-controlled outer perimeter of the city’s airport, a choice that's prompted outrage behind the scenes from lawmakers and military officials.

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/08/26...evacuate-506957

Outrageous. Tell the politicians suddenly upset in the media that the Taliban are just tourists. Worked before.

It's not about staying 20 more years. It's not about leaving.

It's about the knee jerk way in which we are leaving. Evidently some felt this was going to be as easy as checking out of a hotel.

As I said earlier, I wonder how many Americans are already held captive? It's easy to write it off like some as prove it, or what we don't know doesn't matter, but you are a sharp guy...you know damn well there are people who aren't getting out of there. We have already seen the lack of control the Taliban leaders have over the people in the field.

I mentioned this 3-4 days ago and got laughed at....who's laughing now?

And your thoughts are requested. What about all the weapons we simply left behind? How hard is it to get everything centralized, fly a few Bones in and destroy the stuff?

But the argument always boils down to when we should have left.

This is exactly what a withdrawal would’ve looked like no matter who is president. And yet I already know the kind of excuses you would’ve made of this was trump.

This is why I just look at this fundamentally different than most on this board. This is why I asked: why would anybody agree on your plan, and why would the taliban or any other terrorist organization happily go along with it?

Trump would’ve relied on the same people to execute a withdrawal plan, if he actually stuck to anything. And it would’ve looked like exactly this. The end result would’ve been the same thing.

And again. You guys are whining about weapons and equipment as if it’s unique. It’s not. Every war we have left, we’ve always left weapons and equipment.

It’s just so strange how quickly y’all throw all logic and reasoning out the window and go straight to emotional rants like the liberal snowflakes you make fun of.

But that’s ok. Y’all can continue acting like spoiled girls crying over a lion being poached.

I’ll be the cold hard jerk keeping it real on here.

And yea, I’m still laughing at you.

I was just coming in to post this gem … joKe gave them a hit list of afghan’s who helped us …

Every time I think we’ve hit the bottom on stupidity joKe proves there’s another level … he gave them a hit list … BRILLIANT

THANKS Y’All

Yesterday the families of 13 soldiers got the worst knock on the door they’ve dreaded since there loved ones enlisted thanks to joKe …

THANKS Y’All

Jc

Here’s what’s gonna happen.

In 6 months, it will show that the majority of Americans support the withdrawal and are ultimately happy that we left Afghanistan.

So Im basically watching a bunch of people who love hotdogs get upset about the process in which it’s made.

There’s a whole new list of people here that easily earned the snowflake label.

Very few question the need to leave. It doesn't take a genius to know people are glad about that.

Apparently it does. Because every argument and rant has boiled down to we shouldn’t had left.

But keep those military industrial complex rhetoric coming. Because there are plenty who think we should’ve stayed. And it clearly doesn’t take a genius to fool people into think that.

You know what, I can’t let any of you dudes on this board get away with this nonsense.

Let’s not act like y’all ever gave a damn about soldiers deaths in the Middle East, or anywhere for that matter.

As if i forgot how y’all acted when the one soldier died in Niger, and Trump went “well he’s a soldier, he knew the risk”. And you conservatives DEFENDED that.

Well keep that same energy. Soldiers were losing their lives in Afghanistan under trump every year as well. Losing their lives when we had NO intentions of withdrawing.

But now aaaaalll of a sudden, y’all care about soldiers dying…..in a combat zone? Now all of a sudden y’all care about soldiers dying while withdrawing from a combats zone?

Now all of a sudden y’all got the nerve to pretend about lives lost AT ALL?

Please, spare me the fake outrage. A lot of y’all come off as hypocrites with regards to anything dealing with foreign policy and military actions.

Imma push back on anybody trying to get that rhetoric off on this board. Cause we all know it’s BS.

Breaking news: soldiers die in combat zones.

QFT. . . . It is all fake moral outrage, politically motivated and lit by the extreme and prejudiced media they drink like Kool-Aid. It's the same kind of crazy that says Biden is a puppet for the communists and is going to be replaced by Kamala. The same fake guilt by association as quoting how many Americans have died from Covid since Biden took office.

Those conditions exclude damn near all of our politicians, though.

Your blinders cause tunnel vision.

THANKS YOUS GUYS.

Nothing but another lie. You have officially become an even bigger troll than Superbrown.

While I don't care for the way things have gone, I can't put all the blame on Biden. As President, he shoulders the blame, but in reality we all know he didn't make the plan or organize the process to carry it out.

No matter what, it wasn't going to be pretty. But putting a hard date on it just makes things that much worse with people expectations. Give you no leeway if things go bad.

We should have started removing the civilians months ago in small groups, so there would be much less to do in the final week or 2 of withdrawal. And this is where I think it went all wrong, I don't think they planned on taking out that many of the Afghans, until the media caught wind that they planned to leave them behind and break promises. And that is why this is most likely the shtshw it is.

j/c

At least Biden is willing to step up to the plate and take responsibility. More than I can say for people like diam who act like trump wasn't a major screw up.

Biden says he bears responsibility 'for all that's happened of late'

US President Joe Biden says he bears responsibility for the US withdrawal from Afghanistan but insists that former president Donald Trump's deal with the Taliban made it necessary.

https://www.thenationalnews.com/world/us...ppened-of-late/

I remember an article when I was younger (kinda) that shocked me. When we left Viet Nam, and the withdrawal then was chaotic as well, the amount of weapons and war materiel that we left behind immediately elevated them to world power status, like 12th in the world. That number might not be right, but the gist is there. We've heard stories of stockpiles of jeeps, tanks, and such shoved off the sides of carriers into the ocean in WW II, effectively denying them to the enemy. For the critics, would weapon destruction have helped their take?

It has been bad admittedly. But not unique and certainly not new. Critics manage to gripe about something. Get as many of those deserving out safely as possible. Put your efforts where they matter. God bless us all everyone.

There is an interesting history lesson.

Google the Russian-Afghan War. (1979 - 1989)

There are many elements at play in Afghanistan.

So proud of these true Americans...

US Special Forces Vets Go Rogue in Middle of Night, Rescue Afghan Allies That Biden Won't


By Taylor Penley

August 27, 2021 at

In times of crisis, we look to our heroes.

And, though the Afghanistan development seems insurmountable at this point, we’re relieved by a new group of heroes who stepped up to the plate.

We’ve been hearing of growing violence in the region, with Americans stranded behind enemy lines amid the Taliban’s growing presence, yesterday’s ISIS attack that killed at least 13 U.S. service members and wounded 15 others, and resurging persecution of vulnerable groups.
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But one group of all-volunteer special forces veterans of the Afghan war wasn’t going to take the Taliban’s abuse lying down.

In fact, they stepped up where the Biden administration wouldn’t.
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US Special Forces Vets Go Rogue in Middle of Night, Rescue Afghan Allies That Biden Won't

On Wednesday night, “Task Force Pineapple” launched a final rescue mission, dubbed “Pineapple Express,” to save Afghan allies and their families still trapped behind enemy lines in Afghanistan.

Beginning on Aug. 15, the veterans devised a plan in conjunction with U.S. military forces present at Kabul’s Hamid Karzai International Airport to rescue those left behind enemy lines who would identify themselves with a password upon reaching the U.S.-occupied zone.
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The group told ABC News that, in conjunction with the U.S. military and the U.S. embassy, they escorted approximately 500 “Afghan special operators, assets and enablers and their families into the airport in Kabul overnight,” as of Thursday morning. By Friday, one group member estimated they saved at least 630 Afghan lives.

Jason Redman, a combat-wounded former Navy SEAL, expressed his frustration “that our own government didn’t do this. We did what we should do, as Americans.”
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As the mission was still underway Thursday, disaster struck in the form of the ISIS suicide bombings.

“Dozens of high-risk individuals, families with small children, orphans, and pregnant women, were secretly moved through the streets of Kabul throughout the night and up to just seconds before ISIS detonated a bomb into the huddled mass of Afghans seeking safety and freedom,” Army Lt. Col. Scott Mann, retired Green Beret commander and leader of the private rescue effort, told ABC.

“There were wounded among the Pineapple Express travelers from the blast, and members of the group said they were assessing whether unaccounted-for Afghans they were helping had been killed,” the outlet reported.


It’s another garish development we’re witnessing from the Afghanistan crisis, but it’s reassuring to see these American heroes responding to the cries for help emanating from those left behind.

Aug. 31 is drawing dangerously close, and we still have a lot of work to do to deliver our people and Afghan refugees from a future of Islamic militant oppression.


We’re thankful for heroes like these, who go above and beyond what’s required of them to save those left behind in the wake of this administration’s poorly executed withdrawal.

In dark times like these, it’s important to remember what our men and women in uniform have sacrificed (and continue to sacrifice) to rectify the failures of our elected officials.

Neither they, nor the victims of this untimely withdrawal, should be forced to answer for a mistake they didn’t make, a mistake the Biden administration refuses to own.

But the bold and tenacious are ready to do what’s necessary.

Let that be a lesson to Biden: This is what true leadership looks like.


https://www.westernjournal.com/us-specia...GL3DPkAF_aKdTrY

In defense of the President, the man is experiencing dementia. How serious we don't know, but he clearly isn't in command of all his facility's. I can't blame him for that. Most of us will experience that to some degree. It's sad to see him marched out there, but the real problem is behind him in Kamalala.

She is the one we need to watch. She isn't demented. She is incompetent.

I didn't hear him take responsibility. I hard him and blame Trump.I think Trump would have got the Americans out before pulling the Military. He would have probably got most of the equipment out too.I would like to have one of those Humvees with the 50 cal on top in case I ever wanted to vacation in South Chicago or Oregon, one of those places.

Living in fear has to be hard. I live in Oregon and keep my hand gun in a safe. I feel safer with it there. But you’d need an AR to grocery shop I’m sure. Probably a diaper too.

You obviously heard what you wanted to hear and ignored what you didn't want to hear. The quote makes this obvious. I'll post it again for those who are having trouble grasping basic English...

Biden says he bears responsibility 'for all that's happened of late'