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Nope. With Biden's Army. We saw your army on January the 6th, you and SB might want to review those clips before you brag how tough you are and how many of you there are... that little rebellion lasted 4 hours. Now they are all going to jail.

And it's hilarious that all I had to do was mention Jade helm and here comes the ridiculous. lmao

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So I'm calling on Biden to roll out Jade helm and round up all the GOPers in Typhoid Mary Camps (not concentration camps, just fenced off from the rest of us). Then they can have no abortions, no socialism, and no libtards all they want in their own wonderful little world away from the real world to do as they please. But somehow, I bet even if we offered to let them go without a mask, not get the jab, not believe in science, and have Trump as their leader in their own special little world; they would just cry that they can't go outside the fence.



Yeah, you should do that rofl




With your badass army rofl



Wait, why did you use this map? You do realize that atleast half the red space is just land, and very few people there, right?

This has to be the dumbest counter point ever posted on this board. Y’all really using a election map to try and highlight population density?

Our education system has failed this country. There’s too many uneducated people in this country for us to survive as a nation.


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Dumbest counter-point... you mean to the first poster's "point"...

round up all the GOPers in Typhoid Mary Camps (not concentration camps, just fenced off from the rest of us).

Uhhhh... okay!

rofl


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Super(troll)… We proved that wrong in November 81 million to 74 million. There’s more of us than you.

Hey fish… nice map… but this one is more accurate. States aren’t just red or blue. Notice that where there’s actual large populations it’s bluer. Open land in the middle of nowhere Nebraska, or whatnot, doesn’t vote. People do.



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why dont we ask them?

superbrown and fish, do you think there's more red leaning people than blue leaning people in this country based on that map?


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Nope, I believe the population is split evenly between 'red and blue voters. I was just making a point (with pictures) that the left-wing braggarts aren't rounding anyone up...

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thank you for clearing that up. i retract my previous post.


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Nope, I believe the population is split evenly between 'red and blue voters. I was just making a point (with pictures) that the left-wing braggarts aren't rounding anyone up...


Jade Helm Boogey Boogey! lmao smh

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Dumbest counter-point... you mean to the first poster's "point"...

round up all the GOPers in Typhoid Mary Camps (not concentration camps, just fenced off from the rest of us).

Uhhhh... okay!

rofl



And here I thought you were one of the smarter ones that might be able to see when I am trolling the far right for their absurd reactions. As if I would ever actually call for a roundup of Americans of any stripe...

And calling anything I post dumb compared to Fish's posts is also absurd. You guys are a hoot. lol.

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thank you for clearing that up. i retract my previous post.


SB is the one that said it. And if it were actually true, DJT would be leading the 4th Reich right now instead of asking the brain damaged to tweet for him.

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There are more of us than there are of you.


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You keep believing that. The last election says different.


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A little something from this week in the Youngstown area-
my brother went into the hospital last Friday because he had a severe blockage and they had to do a triple bypass. He made it through fine-but last Tuesday night I went to the ICU at St. Elizabeth main in Youngstown and got there just as they were waking him up and got to hang out a short time with him. As me and my wife were leaving, we were trying to find an exit to go back to our car and one of the hospital staff opened a door for us and we entered through a door into the ER waiting room-and I just stopped for a second and looked around and all my wife could muster was Holy Crap-just get out of here. There were people in every chair, wheelchairs, standing by the entrance. I assume a large number of them were there for covid tests or are sick. We are fully vaxxed and double masked. It was insane how many people were there.

My in-laws took my nephew to New York for a hockey tournament last weekend. When they got back to Ohio, my mother in law was not feeling well. She went to work Monday though, went to hockey practice Tuesday night and was really not feeling well Wednesday so she went to St. Elizabeth in Boardman. Walked in and every single seat at 2:30 in the afternoon was full and people were standing. This place has a very large waiting room. She said she wanted a test and was not feeling well-asked how long the wait will be and they told her at least 6 hours. I have had to take my kids there a couple times and go for bloodwork-it takes longer to go through registration than to be seen in the past. The wait was insane. My mother in law was not waiting so she went to a CVS and they didn't have any test so she went to a med express and she tested negative. She went out again and did a couple things she had to do on Thursday and was again not feeling well at all on Friday so she went back to Boardman ER at 3 on Friday afternoon and there were more people there than Wednesday-All seats full, people standing and she said people got the wheelchairs and were using them because they couldn't stand up. She asked how long the wait was and they said probably 6-8 hours and she did not want to go to med express and by this time she was really feeling it in her chest-so she said she wanted them to check cause she had chest pain and they took here right back and found a little bit of pneumonia and she did test positive for covid and has all the other symptoms.

She is double vaxxed and is doing a little bit better yesterday-but she is in her 70's and has other health issues.



But I am totally amazed as to how many people were in the waiting rooms in the middle of the afternoon


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Sadly I’m not shocked at all. The hospitals are all very busy… most beds are filled with the unvaccinated.
I hope your mother in law recovers quickly and fully.


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Some Hospitals around here are going back to not allowing visitors into the Hospital.


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The ER doc said that they are getting some breakthrough cases, but the vaxxed are handling the treatment well, the unvaxxed not at all.

But also, my wife asked me what my in laws should do about telling people around them-my mother in law went to her side retirement job one day last week, went to a couple stores, went to get her hair done, went to a hockey game and two practices. Most of the kids on the hockey team are 12 and 13 and not vaxxed including my nephew.
I told them that they need to tell the hair dresser, work and the hockey team-and the hockey team if they are not vaxxed should take the next 10 days off if they were in close contact.
They didn't seem to like my suggestion until my wife talked to my father in law-Last year, the kids had to go in and dress with the parents out in the car and then when the kids went on the ice one of the parents would be able to come in and watch and they had them all separated. Then they let 2 parents come in, then other relatives. Now, at the tournament last weekend the place was swamped with people everywhere, going out after games to eat, the kids hanging in each others rooms and not one single person wearing a mask in any situation.
My mother in law told my wife last night that "once we got the vax, we thought that life could go back to 2019".

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Some Hospitals around here are going back to not allowing visitors into the Hospital.


I heard Salem is not allowing again.
They are also starting again not to do elective surgeries.

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Some Hospitals around here are going back to not allowing visitors into the Hospital.


We haven't changed our policy... we were getting more relaxed with some of the employee policies (like allowing unmasked if everyone in the room was vaccinated) but we've tightened those back up....

our ER and Urgent Care have been crazy for several weeks now... we also have had the highest census of patients with Covid 19 the last couple of weeks that we've had throughout the pandemic...


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Sadly the US has become one of the largest Petri dishes for COVID on the planet. Almost no other country in the world has worse numbers.
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Originally Posted By: PortlandDawg
Sadly I’m not shocked at all. The hospitals are all very busy… most beds are filled with the unvaccinated. ...


That just cannot possibly be true.

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That's easy to say if you haven't been paying attention. He is in Oregon. Many parts of the country are facing very similar circumstances. Here's a snippet from the article...

"Eighty five percent of people hospitalized for lung failure and other complications of COVID-19 are unvaccinated. Kaiser, Providence and OHSU report about 90% of their COVID-19 patients on life support in the ICU are unvaccinated. Legacy’s numbers were even higher: 97%."

“Please do us this favor and go get vaccinated,” said Levi Cole, an ICU nurse with Portland Providence Medical Center.

Oregon’s hospitals are overwhelmed. Here’s what they’re asking you to do

https://www.opb.org/article/2021/08/25/o...spitalizations/


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Originally Posted By: s003apr
Originally Posted By: PortlandDawg
Sadly I’m not shocked at all. The hospitals are all very busy… most beds are filled with the unvaccinated. ...


That just cannot possibly be true.


Was this supposed to be a joke or are you serious?

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I have no idea what this "data guy" has been reading or has avoided reading may be a better example in this instance. Every reliable source out there is pointing out how many states are being overrun with covid cases and how many of them are unvaccinated.

These 5 states have less than 10% of ICU beds left as Covid-19 overwhelms hospitals

https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/31/health/us-coronavirus-tuesday/index.html

Hospitalizations Spike In States With Low Vaccination Rates As Unvaccinated Covid Patients Fill ICUs

https://www.forbes.com/sites/roberthart/...sh=46a610eb14b1

Akron....

'This is a surge of the unvaccinated': Area hospitals at or over capacity with COVID, other patients

https://www.beaconjournal.com/story/news...nic/5688526001/


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Sadly I’m not shocked at all. The hospitals are all very busy… most beds are filled with the unvaccinated. ...


That just cannot possibly be true.


Was this supposed to be a joke or are you serious?


It's not a joke. It just cannot possibly be true. It's common sense. There is no way that over 50% of hospital beds are taken by COVID patients. Think of all the reasons that people need to go to the hospital from surgeries, to auto accidents, to child birth. How could COVID possibly make up the majority of cases of people occupying a bed?

Do you not agree?

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Originally Posted By: PortlandDawg
A couple of articles about what’s happening in the ‘red’ parts of the Pacific NW. I added excerpts from the articles for those that don’t open links to read information.


‘Absolutely heartbreaking’ week of deaths at southern Oregon hospital - oregonlive.com
https://www.oregonlive.com/coronavirus/2...n-hospital.html

“ In the previous seven days, 28 people with COVID-19 died at the hospital, according to Howard, an average of one death every six hours.

“Absolutely heartbreaking,” he said.

The hospital’s 12-bed intensive care unit at noon was holding 18 COVID-19 patients…”

‘We don’t have any vaccinated patients here.’ Idaho hospitals crushed by COVID-19 surge - oregonlive.com
https://www.oregonlive.com/coronavirus/2...d-19-surge.html

“ The intensive care rooms at St. Luke’s Boise Medical Center are full, each a blinking jungle of tubes, wires and mechanical breathing machines. The patients nestled inside are a lot alike: All unvaccinated, mostly middle-aged or younger, reliant on life support and locked in a silent struggle against COVID-19.”
“ Artfully inked tattoos cover the tanned forearm of a man in his 30s. An expectant mother’s slightly swollen belly is briefly revealed as a nurse adjusts her position. The young woman is five months pregnant and hooked to a breathing machine.

Down the hall, another pregnant woman, just 24 and on a ventilator, is lying prone — on top of her developing fetus — to get more air into her ravaged lungs.

Idaho hit a grim COVID-19 trifecta this week, reaching record numbers of emergency room visits, hospitalizations and ICU patients. Medical experts say the deeply conservative state will likely see 30,000 new infections a week by mid-September.

With a critical shortage of hospital beds and staff and one of the nation’s lowest vaccination rates…”





Quoted my earlier post for those that may have missed it….


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Originally Posted By: PortlandDawg
Sadly I’m not shocked at all. The hospitals are all very busy… most beds are filled with the unvaccinated.
I hope your mother in law recovers quickly and fully.


That is absolutely ridiculous. You just pulled that out of your a$$ because you are so uninformed.
https://www.infowars.com/posts/cdcs-own-...icials-claimed/

https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/pu...tudy-finds.html

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Originally Posted By: s003apr
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Originally Posted By: PortlandDawg
Sadly I’m not shocked at all. The hospitals are all very busy… most beds are filled with the unvaccinated. ...


That just cannot possibly be true.


Was this supposed to be a joke or are you serious?


It's not a joke. It just cannot possibly be true. It's common sense. There is no way that over 50% of hospital beds are taken by COVID patients. Think of all the reasons that people need to go to the hospital from surgeries, to auto accidents, to child birth. How could COVID possibly make up the majority of cases of people occupying a bed?

Do you not agree?



You understand that COVID patients don’t go to the hospital and get put on a regular unit. They’re in the hospital because they need ICU level care. Those beds are very limited. Because these unvaccinated idiots are filling the beds there’s no room for those that have car accidents or heart attacks. This is the problem. Most hospitals are now beginning to reclose to any non vital surgeries or procedures. The staff is being pushed to their limits.
Personally my patience for the non vaccinated has all but waned. You’re all a scourge on our society.


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Wear mask if you are indoors in closed environments.

Stay away from people recommend 10'.


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I'm at Home Depot or,
I'm at a store with a high ceilings
I'm at a stranger's house but they have high ceilings so it is ok
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If I were to say that most hospital beds are being used by expectant mothers, and you pointed out that this could not possibly be true. It wouldn't then make sense for me to respond by pointing out that not all beds are in maternity wards and that not all rooms are built for delivering newborns.

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Do you understand that hospitals under normal circumstances perform all kinds of surgeries and procedures every day. Some cancer related, some joint replacements, tonsillectomies, etc. Because the ICU beds are full, these hospitals are not doing, or doing far fewer of these. Why? Because they need ICU staff in case something we’re to go wrong in the operating room. So now they don’t do as many of those procedures. Those areas of the hospitals are fairly empty. There will never be COVID patients on those floors. So yes the hospitals aren’t ‘full’. But they aren’t doing for the community what they were designed to do because of COVID. Those people that need ‘non vital’ services are being put on hold. Why? Because the threat of community based spread of COVID. Who is filling those COVID ICU beds? The unvaccinated.

Facts.


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I think there's a miscommunication here. He thinks that your claim was the majority of total hospital beds are taken by unvaccinated patients, whereas the real meaning was that a very high percentage of hospitalized COVID patients were unvaccinated.


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I think there's a miscommunication here. He thinks that your claim was the majority of total hospital beds are taken by unvaccinated patients, whereas the real meaning was that a very high percentage of hospitalized COVID patients were unvaccinated.

There's no miscommunication here. He wrote that most hospital beds are taken up by unvaccinated COVID patients. That's not what I THINK. That is precisely what PortlandDawg wrote.

I don't believe that there is any truth to any of it. The vast majority of inpatient hospital beds do not have a COVID patient in them. In fact, I am willing to bet that the majority of ICU beds do not a COVID patient in them, except in maybe a few states.

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I clarified. I apologize for the confusion.

That said… Did you read my post that contained two articles referring to what’s happening in SW Oregon and Idaho?
I have an ER doctor friend in town. He’s busy as ever. The patients his hospital is admitting to the ICU are almost exclusively unvaccinated. His hospital’s ICU has recently been over capacity more than not.

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I think there's a miscommunication here. He thinks that your claim was the majority of total hospital beds are taken by unvaccinated patients, whereas the real meaning was that a very high percentage of hospitalized COVID patients were unvaccinated.

There's no miscommunication here. He wrote that most hospital beds are taken up by unvaccinated COVID patients. That's not what I THINK. That is precisely what PortlandDawg wrote.

I don't believe that there is any truth to any of it. The vast majority of inpatient hospital beds do not have a COVID patient in them. In fact, I am willing to bet that the majority of ICU beds do not a COVID patient in them, except in maybe a few states.


How about this? Because of the significant increase of patients with Covid needing a hospital bed (ICU and Acute Care), many hospitals are becoming overwhelmed to the point where many procedures are being delayed because of the lack of beds in the hospital... is that better?

My hospital is in a similar boat as Portland's.... in the last month our in-patient Covid patients continue to rise and we've had to put holds on many surgeries because we don't have the beds to put patients post operatively... we've also had to transfer some trauma patients to other hospitals that we wouldn't normally have to because we didn't have beds.... delaying the care for these trauma patients...


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You guys are nuts arguing day after day with people that have their own alternative facts to live by; nothing will ever come of this.

At this point if they don't want to get the vaccine, they are not going to do it unless tragedy hits. All of us being mad because we want them to get vaccinated or at least want to correct the misinformation... they thrive on the frustration resulting from our efforts.

Hope everyone makes it through but if you are refusing the vaccine, then get sick and die, well that's on you and I probably won't feel one way or the other about it. This is pretty much where I am at with all of it. Covid is spiking, getting more contagious, still killing thousands a day and here we are with grown ass adults all across the country acting like their minds have regressed to a slightly post toddler stage.

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Rolling Stone Issues 'Update' After Horse Dewormer Hit-Piece Debunked
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Update (1155ET): Rolling Stone has issued an 'update,' not a correction, or a retraction, by appending the hospital's statement to the top of the article.

After Joe Rogan announced that he'd kicked Covid in just a few days using a cocktail of drugs, including Ivermectin - an anti-parasitic prescribed for humans for over 35 years, with over 4 billion doses administered (and most recently as a Covid-19 treatment), the left quickly started mocking Rogan for having taken a 'horse dewormer' due to its dual use in livestock.

On Friday, Rolling Stone's Peter Wade took another stab - publishing a hit piece claiming that Oklahoma ERs were overflowing with people 'overdosing on horse dewormer.'

It was suspect from the beginning.

The report, sourced to local Oaklahoma outlet KFOR's Katelyn Ogle, cites Oklahoma ER doctor Dr. Jason McElyea - who claimed that people overdosing on ivermectin horse dewormer are causing emergency rooms to be "so backed up that gunshot victims were having hard times getting" access to health facilities.

As people take the drug, McElyea said patients have arrived at hospitals with negative reactions like nausea, vomiting, muscle aches, and cramping — or even loss of sight.
“The scariest one that I’ve heard of and seen is people coming in with vision loss,” the doctor said. -Rolling Stone
Except, the article provided zero evidence for McElyea's claims, causing people to start asking questions.

And while neither KFOR or Rolling Stone mention the hospital McElyea worked for, NHS Sequoyah, located in Sallisaw, Oklahoma - just issued a statement disavowing McElyea's claims, which pops up when you visit their website.

It reads:

Although Dr. Jason McElyea is not an employee of NHS Sequoyah, he is affiliated with a medical staffing group that provides coverage for our emergency room.

With that said, Dr. McElyea has not worked at our Sallisaw location in over 2 months.

NHS Sequoyah has not treated any patients due to complications related to taking ivermectin. This includes not treating any patients for ivermectin overdose.

All patients who have visited our emergency room have received medical attention as appropriate. Our hospital has not had to turn away any patients seeking emergency care.

We want to reassure our community that our staff is working hard to provide quality healthcare to all patients. We appreciate the opportunity to clarify this issue and as always, we value our community’s support.

What about the rest of the state?

According to Scott Schaeffer, managing director of the Oklahoma Center for Poison and Drug Information, "Since the beginning of May, we’ve received reports of 11 people being exposed to ivermectin," he told the NY Daily News (which still pushed the 'ivermectin overdoses' story despite this fact).

Meanwhile, this [censored] story has also been picked up by the far-left Business Insider and The Independent, as well as The Guardian, among other notable outlets.

McElyea is also listed as working at Integris Grove Hospital in Grove, OK as a general family practitioner - not in the ER. A phone call to them provided no insight as to any ivermectin overdoses, however the gentleman who answered the phone sounded quite amused. What's more, Grove, OK - with a population of 7,129, had just 14 aggravated assaults in all of 2019 according to the FBI's latest data. We somehow doubt that 'gunshot victims were lining up outside the ER,' while just 11 ivermectin related hospital cases have been reported in the entire state since the beginning of May.

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I agree. It's on them.

Hopefully the jammed hospitals will convince many more to get the vaccine.

I will say it a little blunter than you, for those who die as unvaccinated people, I feel sorry as a human, but it's the bed THEY made.

What are you going to do? (Shrug)


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As of Tomorrow Trumbull is going to be that way as well on visitors. However I am still getting my colonoscopy there on Friday.


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