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Well, boys and girls, this post got more attention than I thought it would, who cares, I'm very happy with OUR CURRENT KICKER, what is not to like, yes, he will eventually miss something, and we will call for his head....what's new. As far as kicking goes, the real issue is OUR CANNON, dropping hike and not kicking it in our first game sure gave it away....new ways to LOSE. We've righted the ship....GO Browns!!!!


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Truth.
There was no stumble there. I think the only thing there was is do you jettison the guy you know from last year to take a chance on Chase, and injury made it so we didn't have to make that decision.


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I think the best way to sum it up is that Chase will be great until and unless he is not. With kickers it's a fickle situation.

The biggest test will be when the weather turns in Cleveland. When the rain and snow is flying and the wind is blowing off Lake Erie. Stay tuned......


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Truth.
There was no stumble there. I think the only thing there was is do you jettison the guy you know from last year to take a chance on Chase, and injury made it so we didn't have to make that decision.



I thought I read Prieffer saying that Chase was ahead of Parkey before the Parkey injury.

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Awhile back I was going to make a post about Chase. I was going to say that I loved his short accuracy. He was excellent on extra points. I was going to say that I was concerned about his leg strength. I looked up his stats to back up my point. That's when I noticed that he was actually pretty good from 50+ yards. Then I noticed how the vast majority of his misses were in the 40-49 yard range and I was confused. So I never posted anything.

I still have no explanation for why he is so accurate from 39 in and 50+ but prior to this season struggled in the 40's.


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Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
I think the best way to sum it up is that Chase will be great until and unless he is not. With kickers it's a fickle situation.

The biggest test will be when the weather turns in Cleveland. When the rain and snow is flying and the wind is blowing off Lake Erie. Stay tuned......


I don't know. I am not sure judging a kicker in the worst environment is the best way, but I agree we will need to see how he holds up there.

He has checked a few boxes in my mind. He has a "plus leg". Looks like he can kick a 60 yarder if required. He at least has that distance ability.

He has also now kicked under pressure. The first few games were all normal pressure kicks. Yesterday, all were pressure kicks the team really needed.


The last you mentioned is a experience factor over an ability factor...or at least mostly experience.

I am sure that as the weather starts to turn, at least he, if not the trio of the FG specialists will be down at the stadium a practice or two a week with a coach and 2-3 ball boys to see how the ball sails in poor conditions.


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Couple of snippets from Hey Terry

Chase McLaughlin is the 1st Browns kicker with 3 makes from 50+ in a season since Phil Dawson (2012).

Phil Dawson made seven field goals from at least 50 yards in 2012, his final season with the Browns.

https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2021/10...-scribbles.html

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2012 was also the last time the Browns won on a West Coast trip.


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Good....now we can go out and win.

I don't know how the team travels, or is the contract even allows, but I would hold a mid morning practice on Thurdsay in Berea, then leave directly from Berea to the airport and fly to LA on Thursday. Then conduct Friday and Saturday activities in LA so the guys clocks are geared for a 1PM west coast start.

I'd do the same for games on Mtn. time. I guess that is just Denver and Phoenix when we play out there...LV


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The only difficulty there is in securing a facility that satisfies all of the covid protocols the league has, beyond that, it's exactly what I'd do. Get them out there and acclimated. Hell, maybe even do it Wednesday afternoon and start the new routine on Thursday. Have them settled and adjusted completely in time for Sunday.


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I don't really disagree with you. I just know how quickly the fan base turns on a kicker. Often times NFL FO's follow suit. To me it's more about what I call the microwave society we now all live in. If it isn't done just right, right now, all the time, it's no good.

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Hell, as much as Gillan sucks, I'd rather have Don Cockcroft back there at age 76.


Jamie Gillan this season….

Gross Punting Avg. 41.1 (29th)
Bet Punting Avg. 39.3 (25th)
493 yards (28th)
(Before today)

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Colquitt is a FA


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LOL how this thread has turned from "kicker" to "punter."

I'm as frustrated at Gillian's punting as anybody...especially after punting in college myself. But with him goes our place-kicking holder. McLaughlin has far exceeded my expectations, and I'd hate to saddle him with adjusting to a new holder. So I think we're stuck for the season with Jamie. Field goals win SO many games...or loses them.

Just ditch the rugby style punters after this. PLEASE!

Edit: I never do spell McLaughlin's name right.

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Looks close enough to me. Don't worry about the spelling.

As for Gillian, I am not all that worried about it. In the world of NFL punters, sometimes 1-2 yards on the average makes a big difference in the stats pecking order.


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I think Gillian will have a little competition next season. Isn't his rookie contract over next year? Hard to believe analytics favors spending money on punters. Gillian not putting up Ray Guy type numbers tells me Berry is drafting or getting a new punter next year.

I do like Gillian. I just feel this is one of those positions we see turnover once a rookie contract ends.

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The insanely strange thing about Gillan is that he was touted as having such a powerful leg. Weren't there stories about 60 or 70 yards blasts from him?

Maybe he just lacks the fine control in his golf swing.... like, he either booms it, or isn't too sure how far it's gonna go?


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I think Gillian will have a little competition next season. Isn't his rookie contract over next year? Hard to believe analytics favors spending money on punters. Gillian not putting up Ray Guy type numbers tells me Berry is drafting or getting a new punter next year.

I do like Gillian. I just feel this is one of those positions we see turnover once a rookie contract ends.


You might have a point, especially since my point between the best and average is just a few yards net, and some of that isn't even in the punters control. if the special teams unit gives up even a couple of long returns a punters net can get all balled up.

I don't think drafting a punter is something we would do. There are always experienced free agent punters out there.


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Maybe his leg is tightening up from sitting on the bench so much more than usual? smile


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