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I think that's expected.

What's the status of Hubbard, though? Limited or Full??

Having Hubbard back would be very nice

Wills really needs the time to heal. Hubbard is by far the most obvious solution to make that happen. I still find it hard to imagine how so many posters thought Hubbard should or would be cut after he had renegotiated his contract last season. It's obvious to see just how important it was to keep him.

Someone will have a Tweet of this, eventually, but here's the current injury report. It's HUGE.

https://www.clevelandbrowns.com/team/injury-report/

There are a ton of DNP's and Hubbard was still Limited.

we are starting to look like Baltimore sheesh lol.

Oof. That list is long and distinguished.

This size injury list has been the norm for us every single year.

AS I lay at night It hit me, the whole concept or Baker having a bad game vs. a good game going back to the start of 2020

It wasn't the enter or exit of Odell Beckham, it was the availability of Hubbard even for a few snaps a game,

Frankly, (despite what anyone else on this entire message board wants to post or assert, I think the evidence shows, even going back to his time with the steelers,
Wherever Chris Hubbard goes, the good offense goes to!

I think he helps enough of the OL around him, and provides himself, a sense of well being for quarterbacks to make better decisions and develop the rhythm, play after play to get timing back with receivers.

How do you suddenly NOT need an MRI after a decision was made to get one? A second MRI is ordered when they feel something was missed on the first one, or because the inflammation has subsided, offering a better view.

no kidding get another MRI I think its covered

I wonder if Jedrick is covered by COBRA...

Nah, he has that tough guy Union Card. He's gonna put those ankles in ice until they freeze before the game and sit on his butt doing some Njoku meditation until it heels so he can keep getting on the field. Guy's a soldier and brother in arms. It's a Browns Brotherhood thing...

If he bleeds orange, he's over-oxygenated.
If he bleeds brown, he's under-oxygenated.


Get me fixed, and get me back in there, coach.

Can't afford that on a rookie contract!

As usual we get an article in the press about how the Brown's should shut Wills down and then the fans repeat it like the folks we have handling all of this don't know what they are doing.

If Ski says he can play thru it he can. They are NOT going to risk his future for 1 win or 2 they think long haul, so some of the Dr.'s we have in the press and here on this board need to, shut up....

Wills can and has played thru this just like Tretter has played thru his issues for 2 years now...

Not surprised. I had been saying since he dislocated his shoulder that he likely tore his labrum and would need off season shoulder surgery.

Damn you Anthony Schwartz for cutting off your route!

I think Baker’s camp released this info because he’s been lambasted over the past week.

I’m sure the team doesn’t want this info disclosed

Quite possible. It still does not excuse missing screen passes and not seeing Felton wide open.

The Browns are still running read options and he's diving for first downs. More of an effect on his deep balls?

The Chargers injury report is finally available.
It's just a little bit smaller than ours..

https://www.chargers.com/team/injury-report/

Ekeler & Allen are on it for Ankles, but were Full Participants.
Chris Harris, one of their starting CB's is Limited with a Shoulder.
Their backup/change of pace RB, Justin Jackson, is limited with a Groin.
Starting Safety Derwin James is Limited with Toe/Shoulder.
Starting LB Drue Tranquill was a Full Participant with "Illness"

So, they're a little bit beat up in areas we may be able to exploit, but nothing that appears to be a definite. Expect them to be fully healthy on Sunday.

Lighten up Francis. I didn't accuse anybody of anything. It was a legit question.

It doesn't take an MD to see an Olineman receive an ankle injury, decide to gut it out but also get taken out of every game he's played since the original injury, to know that the dude needs to heal or he's going to injure it worse. The injury is clearly hampering him, and the announcement that he would get another MRI was a big red flag. I do trust 'ski and Co. to prioritize player health, but it's also obvious the ankle isn't getting any better with him out there on Sundays.

Ok Dr. oobernoober

Forgot to add.

.... but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

People have no idea the value that adds.

j/c...


Jake Trotter
@Jake_Trotter
OC Alex Van Pelt on Baker’s partially torn labrum to his non-throwing shoulder: “I haven’t seen it affect him out here in practice… so it shouldn’t carry over to the game.” Said Baker just had a “rough day” in Minnesota but “expects him to bounce back this week” #Browns

https://twitter.com/Jake_Trotter/status/1446159536373575683

Baker is tough and not going to come out, so he's going to play through this. The coaches know it, admire him for it, but certainly don't necessarily want it to be public knowledge for our adversaries to exploit (wait for teams to stack 8 in the box to stop Chubb/Hunt and dare Baker to prove he's healthy enough to beat them deep).

Baker struggled bigly in Minny and heard it from fans and media alike (rightfully so).

It totally makes sense that his PR team would release this to explain his performance the last 2 weeks away and get people off his back. Let's not forget this is a contract year for Baker. Don't think that doesn't come into the equation.

On the flip side of that coin, the coaches are now scrambling to do PR damage control (if that's even possible now) by trying to spin this as "he looks fine in practice so he should be fine in the games" i.e. SUUUUURE Baker's going to be able to make those deep throws to OBJ and Schwartz. Don't put 8 in the box.....please?

Scott Petrak ct
@ScottPetrak
#Browns not practicing and not on field during portion open to reporters: LT Jedrick Wills Jr. (ankle), C JC Tretter (knee/back).

Scott Petrak ct
@ScottPetrak
#Browns players working on side but not practicing: DEs Jadeveon Clowney (elbow), Takk McKinley (ankle, knee), CB Greg Newsome II (calf, ruled out for Sunday), TE David Njoku (knee), LB Malcolm Smith (abdomen), OL Chris Hubbard (triceps).

https://twitter.com/ScottPetrak/status/1446174794773303296

Trevor Lawrence, Josh Allen and Mitchell Trubisky have all recently played through torn a labrum. Alex Van Pelt said today he tore his twice.

OBJ from presser today:

Camryn Justice
@camijustice
#Browns OBJ said he's been dealing with a torn labrum like Baker Mayfield has for 10 years now.

“You keep working it. You work the muscles around it, you do all of that and then you just go out and play and forget about it. By the time you get out there you forget about it.”

https://twitter.com/camijustice/status/1446150415662342155

Agree that's another good point. I seriously doubt this injury is going to magically heal in a couple weeks. We're likely dealing with this for the rest of the year - whether it's Baker just being limited and playing through it or, even worse, Baker missing a chunk of time.

Sadly these are the nightmare "what if's" that keep FO up at night when putting together a 1 year "go for it all" roster.

j/c

I wonder how much impact that injury has on in-season workouts.

Which begs the question, why wasn't Baker dumping the pass of short or throwing it out of bounds instead of trying to run with the ball?