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Get that done

I wonder how his age factors into that, if at all. I think he'll be 32 when the first year of the extension would hit, as opposed to Teller at 27.

Bitonio getting a second extension is so awesome. An all-timer.

When looking at the way Tellers contract is structured, even that looks like a two year deal in reality and he's 27. PPE made a very good point. You are looking to develop and replace high priced FA's at every turn. I would think even if Bitonio signs a four year deal it will be structured very much the Tellers is. While it will be four years on paper it will only be a two year deal from a practical standpoint.

How much less will/should Bitonio be offered being a vet, yet being ranked below Teller? Thoughts?

Berry might be able to keep MOST of the band together for 3-4 years...

The cap is about to go through the roof. We should be able to keep everyone we want.

Yeah, the cap will increase quite a bit. Having us keep our own is a great thing

I was going to ask if you were going to sign the checks, if it would come out of your wallet. Then I did some quick estimation, oh 16 million, well how many Browns fans are there? (guess, 50 million Browns fans.) ok, 16 million, that is 0.32, so 32 cents per fan.
Ok, but how many of the 50 million Browns fans pay the way for things? 1 in 1000? ok, 1 in 1000, that would be 320 dollars.
320 dollars on a 16 million extension, for 3 years to the fan cost. ( Ehh Cmon TL, don't be so negative, besides, it's probably 1, in 100 fans that pay, not one in 1000 fans that pay, so that is only 32 dollars.

32 dollars per ME, so one of these OL can get extended, not so much... wait! what if its one in 500 Browns fans who end up paying of those 50,000,000 Browns fans, instead of one in 100, and then it would be 64 dollars to ME, it has to come from somewhere,
Ehh, it's all Baker Mayfield insurance commercials, I'm sure the insurance company is never going to pass it along to any American who might be a football fan.
I mean, it won't mean my Progressive insurance policy will go up by 64 dollars in the next 3 years, right? ?? , what about a bundle?

What is the per fan cost of a 96 million dollar Per year offensive line, at 6 times 16 million per player per year.

What if there aren't 50 million Browns fans, what if, there are... 18 million Browns fans. (that is 1.12+ A dollar twelve and a half, not 32 cents.) If 1 in 1000 fans pony up, that extension 16 million per year, costs each fan 1125 bucks a year.
But we know it's 1 in 100 Browns fans who end up paying fan prices so, ok, only 1/10th of that 1125 bucks. 112 dollars .50
But what if it's only 1 in 500 browns fans that actually foot the bill 563 dollars?

You know, if a team can spread 563 dollars, around over 22 game weeks, (playoffs and preseason) and push part of that into things like progressive insurance or television advertising corporations increasing the cost of every Americans' bundle, that can become pretty unnoticeable real quick. What does it feel like 4%, increase?
Want to buy a Browns knick knack? You know you want to buy a Browns Knick Knack. look here is the elf, ya know they drew the elf differently this time.
Here's the thing. I can't stop others from giving things to me as gifts, on the holidays. I bet it's only 18 dollars premium, for a tiny waste paper bin, with a Browns elf on it, aaannd cross that name off the list of the holidays, ok, one done.

The Cap is about to go through the roof, we should be able to keep everyone we want,
and the, well, NOW COME ON TL!!! no stadium on earth is allowed to see it's 21st birthday!!! And you can't expect these, ... investors? to pay for the stadium!!
don't you care, now go buy a lottery ticket, and foot the tax, (buy 50 lottery tickets, it's 900 million") and foot the tax for the stadium that's 19+ years old, oh, the concrete is crumbling, Do you want to go through history again? (poor stadium just lost it's new car smell, got to get a new stadium smell air freshener to hang from the cars rear view stadium mirror) .

j/c...

Highest graded vs. single coverage...

Well, I didn't see that coming.
That's some magical value, right there. Again, a feather in Berry's cap!

Damned proud to have Joel here he has been a baller here every sense we drafted him.

Now go get you're ring Joel you have earned it.

j/c...

For all you nerds out there.

Talk about an upgrade.

Billings was a massive disappointment (literally)

I posted this once before, but felt it appropriate to honor Billings one last time.

Thanks for the memories, Andy!

Lol thats so bad

said since preseason.. i had no idea what they saw in billings to keep him over some of the younger guys

Hell, I could do better than that.

I don't know what they're ^ talking about. " Somebody has to catch it!" ..
Browns?
If you have such a prolific, storied and experienced, combination as Baker Mayfield, to Rashard Higgins,
Then why would you not make every opponent defend it week in and week out?

And if there is a coach, who cannot get, some snaps for Schwartz, Landry, Njoku!, Higgins, and DPJ, on the field and used in the Same Game,
then I don't think that offensive coach is getting the most out of their talent in the tool box.

A downhearted Landry speaks.

Welp, better start looking for Landry's replacement now.

Of course it hurts him, They are best friends.. . And I don't think anyone is picking on him.. i think we all know he is not 100%..

As far as looking for a replacement,, shouldn't we always be doing that?

Not at the expense of appreciating who is already there at the time. Especially if they are better and obviously better.
There is nothing wrong with getting a whole players career on your team. Remember continuity that everyone lobbied for so much a few short years ago, maybe 2 years ago.

Injuries have played a big part too. Baker’s, Conklin’s, Hunt’s, Chubb’s. And I think there’s also a sense that other coaches got enough of Stefanski’s tendencies over the offseason. We haven’t adjusted yet

First play of every game is a pass to a TE. He is so predictable it is disturbing...

Injuries have taken a toll. I don't think the OL has played, but 1 or 2 full games as a complete unit this year. Wills missed some games and was only making it through 2-3 quarters before re-aggravating his ankle injury in others, Conklin has missed games and is now on IR. Hubbard the back-up T got injured and is out for the season. They tried James Hudson and he was disaster. Now Blake Hance is being forced to play RT.

Here were Bill Callahan's comments on Blake Hance just last week:

“He is a utility guy who really should not be out on the end, but he is really surviving out there is how I would call it.”

If the Browns lose to Detroit they will be 2-5 in their last 7. That alarming mark is something just about any group since 1999 would have been capable of, but this team is a better team with better results.

Week 1 First play - Nick Chubb run
Week 2 - Nick Chubb run
Week 3 - Pass to Harrison Bryant
Week 4 - Nick Chubb run
Week 5 - Pass to Njoku
Week 6 - Pass to Hooper
Week 7 - Pass to Landry
Week 8 - Pass to Hooper
Week 9 - Nick Chubb run
Week 10 - D'Ernest Johnson run

Making stuff up is way easier than looking up what actually happened.

Smh. I was being extra when saying that... however it's pretty accurate. In the first few plays, 80% is a ridiculous number within the first couple plays.

I have almost zero issue with how we typically start games. It’s what happens in the next few drives that usually hurts us.

The only thing I dislike: when we start the game from an empty set. It drives me nuts

I hate how it feels like 80% of our red zone plays (maybe insdie the 10 rather than red zone) are passes or gimmick plays rather than run the ball down the opponents throat plays.

From today's press conference...

Almost as repetitive as KS saying he needs to coach better is saying "we need to get X person more into the gameplan". Is there anyone who IS in the gameplan (in terms of passcatchers)?

Hue Jackson is currently the offensive coordinator at Tennessee State.

He has once again risen to his level of incompetency.

Tennessee St HC is Eddie George, now heavily rumored to be taking over as HC at Akron U. Hue could be on his way back to working in NE Ohio. Convenient for him since (I think) he still owns a home here.