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Aye if you Republicans really want to take back congress in 2022, might wanna get on the same page first.

Cause it looks like the gop civil war is getting even more real. They out here sniping each other left and right. Soon it will be full on battle in an open field.

Oh yea, you guys might want to have a platform as well. Didn’t have a platform in 2020, and looks like you won’t in 2022.

Not exactly a good recipe. If the Dems are indeed giving you guys a slam dunk, you guys seem hellbent on getting hung at the rim instead.


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I see you had another wet dream.


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It is nice to see Democrats coming to their senses...

Hispanic Voters Now Evenly Split Between Parties, WSJ Poll Finds
Republicans have made rapid gains among a crucial voting demographic that has long favored Democrats

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When and if the majority of them become Republicans you will have Border Patrol escorting them across the border and giving them welcome bags.


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Oh, they have a platform. It’s to obstruct the Democrats by talking about how much their plans will cost. Then they will take office and run up the deficit in a different way.


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Their platform is to ignore, frustrate, and block the governing left majority, while they destroy democracy to insure they remain in power. Fascism is the goal, don't lie to yourself. They want their own New Gilead.

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Graham warns GOP about Trump's wrath on debt vote

https://www.yahoo.com/news/graham-warns-gop-trumps-wrath-110038320.html

reading grahams comments....i mean damn republicans, so trump is a king or dictator? how does one dude have this much fear being generated within the republican party? not respect, fear.

they really gonna choose him over anything else? thats some cult like behavior right there.


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They’re under the thrall of a demagogue. The forked-tongued piped piper of basal brained sycophants.


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Portland sets new record for homicides in a year with 72 after double murder in Old Town
A man was arrested for fatally shooting another man and a woman Sunday morning; police say that makes 72 homicides, breaking a Portland record set in 1987.

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King County murder rates break records as Seattle prepares for even fewer officers

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I could go on and on...
Good job guys if your job is to destroy America.

'It's just crazy': 12 major cities hit all-time homicide records

https://abcnews.go.com/US/12-major-us-cities-top-annual-homicide-records/story?id=81466453

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Well, at least one trump republican has become a DT Big Yellow Font SPAMMER.

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Originally Posted by 40YEARSWAITING
I could go on and on...
Good job guys if your job is to destroy America.

'It's just crazy': 12 major cities hit all-time homicide records

https://abcnews.go.com/US/12-major-us-cities-top-annual-homicide-records/story?id=81466453


I realize this is the wrong thread for this comment. But I'd like to know how many of those homicides were committed using a gun? And how many of those guns were obtained legally vs illegally


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[quote=40YEARSWAITING]I could go on and on...
Good job guys if your job is to destroy America.

'It's just crazy': 12 major cities hit all-time homicide records

https://abcnews.go.com/US/12-major-us-cities-top-annual-homicide-records/story?id=81466453


I realize this is the wrong thread for this comment. But I'd like to know how many of those homicides were committed using a gun? [/qote] Probably most.
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And how many of those guns were obtained legally vs illegally
Probably most.

What's your point? Take away legally owned guns, not used in crimes, from the legal owners?


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Put words in people's mouths much?

This is important information to have for any discussion about guns.

If most are not gun related then no need to do much to current gun laws. If most are illegally obtained then we need to do a better job enforcing current laws, if miat are legally obtained then we need to change laws on how guns are legally obtained .

And for the record, I am not a gun fan but I have never said anything related to taking legal guns away from people or outlawing all guns. I do feel that to own a gun you should have to take and pass a gun safety course along with appropriate background testing (whatever appropriate is I leave up to the experts).

My other though is that there currently a line for what weapons are and are not legal. I cannot own a tank or a nuclear bomb. I think wherever that line is drawn needs to make the AR 15 illegal - jmo


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I'm fairly certain I didn't put words in anyone's mouth.

I simply said I think most are gun related - homicides. And that most are probably illegally owned. How is that putting words in anyone's mouth???

You are asking questions no one can answer, other than police reports. And if you do the math, the homicides - most of them - are gang, and drug related. Period.

School shootings get the media attention, and rightfully so.......but no where is some 700+ homicides in Chicago, this year, discussed. Philadelphia, some 500 homicides?

Hey, let this be a lesson to you: legal gun owners don't go out shooting people in bad neighborhoods. Bad people, with illegal guns do that, and they do that over drugs, for the most part.

Next, you'll want links. Link to this: Common sense.


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You said:
"What's your point? Take away legally owned guns, not used in crimes, from the legal owners?"

I take that as trying to put words in my mouth.

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Matt Gaetz and Steve Bannon said an 'army of patriots' and 'shock troops' should take over the government if Trump runs and wins in 2024
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Rep. Matt Gaetz of Florida and the former White House advisor Steve Bannon on Thursday floated the idea that an organized "army of patriots" could take over the government if Donald Trump were to win in 2024.Anna Moneymaker/Getty Images
Rep. Matt Gaetz and Steve Bannon mused about the chance of a 2024 presidential win by Donald Trump.

Gaetz said an "army of patriots" should get ready now to "fight" for the US.

Bannon said "shock troops" divided into teams could take over some 4,000 government positions.

Rep. Matt Gaetz of Florida and the former White House advisor Steve Bannon floated an idea that an "army of patriots" and "shock troops" should be prepared to take over the government if former President Donald Trump were to run and win in 2024.

During Thursday's episode of Bannon's "War Room" podcast, he and Gaetz outlined their plan if Trump should win.

Trump has not yet publicly announced he is running in 2024.

"People didn't like that Donald Trump raised his voice, but sometimes you gotta raise your voice to raise a ruckus and to raise an army of patriots who love this country and will fight for her," Gaetz said.

"We're going to operationalize the performance to go right after the people who are imposing the vaccine mandates, who are enriching themselves, and who are selling out the country," Gaetz added.

Bannon then went on to suggest to a nodding Gaetz that there should be a "theory of governing" before elaborating on what his plan would be if Trump were to be president again.

"It's fresh and it's new. This is Trumpism in power. That's when we went to the 4,000 shock troops we have to have that's going to man the government. Get them ready now. Right?" Bannon said. "We're going to hit the beach with the landing teams and the beachhead teams and all that nomenclature they use when President Trump wins in 2024 — or before."

Bannon went on to suggest that these 4,000 shock troops would then become "political appointees."

"On Capitol Hill, you're going to have Gaetz, and others," Bannon said. "No more powderpuff derby. This is going to be hardcore accountability at every committee."

"And we're going to go after this administrative state and we're going to start at the Department of Justice and the FBI. That's the job I want. You know, send me over to the Judiciary Committee and their sphincters will tighten because they have been doing a lot of corrupt things over there," Gaetz said in response to Bannon's suggestion.

It is unclear what Gaetz and Bannon meant, specifically, with references to an "army of patriots" and "shock troops." Representatives for Gaetz and Bannon did not immediately respond to requests for comment from Insider.

In October, Bannon made a similar, albeit less detailed suggestion when calling into NBC News.

"If you're going to take over the administrative state and deconstruct it, then you have to have shock troops prepared to take it over immediately," Bannon said. "I gave 'em fire and brimstone."

In November, Bannon appeared in court to face criminal contempt charges for defying a subpoena to sit for a deposition and produce documents related to the January 6 Capitol riot. The former White House chief strategist faces two criminal contempt-of-Congress charges, and his trial date is set for July 18.




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That’s a sitting member of Congress sitting with one of Trumps former hires saying this nonsense.

Reading the article, I have to ask: why shouldn’t I consider this plot domestic terrorism?

Cause this sounds like domestic terrorism.


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Trump accuses former ally Netanyahu of disloyalty: 'F--- him'

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Remember folks. When trump accuses others of disloyalty, it’s not disloyalty to America, it’s disloyalty to HIM.

This is some sad stuff


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It wasn't Gaetz, but it was the governor in the same state and on the same 'team' that wants to basically raise a standing army answerable only to him (governor's own national guard).


There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.

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Sounds like the plans of a future military coup.

For those who don’t think anything in the Middle East or Eastern Europe can possibly happen here, they might want to rethink that.


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That's the way this has worked for decades now. If you mention any form of common sense gun laws, the next thing that comes out of their mouth is, "You're trying to take guns away from legal gun owners".


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Republican extremists promote civil war. Details at 11:00.


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Perdue says he wouldn't have certified Biden's Georgia win as Republican effort to bypass future election results intensifies

David Perdue, the former U.S. senator and Trump-endorsed candidate for governor in Georgia, said Wednesday that he would not have certified Joe Biden’s win in the 2020 presidential election in his home state, the latest move from state-level Republicans casting doubt on the integrity of future races.

Perdue, who served one term representing Georgia in the Senate before losing in a January runoff to Democrat Jon Ossoff, announced his intention to primary sitting Republican Gov. Brian Kemp this week. Kemp is among the Georgia Republicans who affirmed the election results, which were counted three times and showed a close win by Biden.

In an interview with Axios, Perdue said he wouldn’t have done the same.

In the weeks following his loss to Biden, Trump called for a special session of Georgia’s Legislature to challenge the results, which Republican Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger said at the time would amount to “nullifying the will of the people.” Trump is also backing state Rep. Jody Hice, who has regularly promoted election conspiracy theories, in a Republican primary challenge against Raffensperger.

GOP officials and pundits across the country have been calling the 2020 results into question despite being unable to provide credible evidence of fraud. A Yahoo News/YouGov poll released in August found that a majority of Republican voters believe Biden did not legitimately win the election. A number of states with Republican-majority legislatures have passed laws making it more difficult to vote, while others are taking steps to allow the party to have more direct control over election results. The proliferation of election conspiracy theories also helped inspire the deadly Jan. 6 siege on the U.S. Capitol, the main purpose of which was to try to stop Biden from becoming president.

Earlier this year, Kemp signed a bill passed by Georgia’s Republican-controlled Legislature that limited voting while also transferring powers away from the secretary of state and instead giving them to a State Election Board controlled by the same partisan Legislature. Under the law, the board can also suspend local election officials with whom it disagrees.

The Perdue comments came hours before Biden kicked off a virtual Summit for Democracy on Thursday. Protect Democracy, a left-leaning legal advocacy organization, has been sounding alarms about state-level maneuvering all year.

“It raises the specter of much more post-election litigation, much more chaos, and in a chaotic post-election period it creates many more opportunities for state legislatures to unlawfully step in and try to change the results, like we saw some legislators clamoring to do last year,” Jess Marsden, counsel for the group, told Yahoo News in June.

Republicans in Wisconsin, where Biden won by 20,000 votes, are looking to dismantle the bipartisan Wisconsin Elections Commission and take direct control of voting in the state. Last month the Trump-aligned sheriff in Racine County recommended charges against five election administrators for election fraud and misconduct in office stemming from the 2020 presidential election. Ron Johnson, the Republican Wisconsin senator who has promoted conspiracy theories about the election, COVID-19 and the Jan. 6 violence at the Capitol, said last month that state Republicans should fully take over federal elections.

"I think the state Legislature needs to reassert its authority [and] make sure that, in the federal elections, our election clerks follow state law, not guidances that are contrary to state law," Johnson told Wisconsin Public Radio. The push to overhaul the system came after a nonpartisan report from the Wisconsin Elections Commission found no evidence of fraud in the 2020 results.

“The outrageous statements and ideas Wisconsin Republicans have embraced aren’t about making our elections stronger, they’re about making it more difficult for people to participate in the democratic process,” the state's Democratic governor, Tony Evers, said last month.

Few states’ 2020 results have seen more scrutiny than Arizona’s, where Republicans in the state Senate have backed a months-long partisan investigation into voting in populous Maricopa County, alienating GOP leadership there. Republican Gov. Doug Ducey signed off on the 2020 results despite Trump’s objections, but term limits mean he will not be able to seek reelection in 2022. The current frontrunner to replace him on the Republican ticket, former local news anchor Kari Lake, has made a host of baseless claims about the 2020 election. She has been endorsed by Trump, and is aligned with Perdue on how she would have handled last year’s close race if she had been governor.

"Considering how much already at the time information we had about serious irregularities and problems with the election, I would not have certified it right then," Lake said in an October interview with the far-right One America News Network, which helped fundraise for the Maricopa investigation.

https://news.yahoo.com/perdue-georgia-election-results-trump-biden-wisconsin-arizona-175122694.html

If you can't fairly win an election, use a government takeover to steal it. Or use violence with "shock troops". Whatever it takes to pull off a coup.

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Un-ber-freaking-leavable.

No wonder there is a large group of posters on the "right" who want to move on, not talk about Trump and Jan 6th.

Anyone want to tell me how not certifying a valid election is American or benefits the people? Pfft. It is getting to the point these people need to be called traitors. How many court cases .. how much time? How much evidence? Pffft.


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rofl

Look at all the Libs crying out emotionally about something that exists in 22 other States.

Nearly every state has laws authorizing state defense forces, and twenty-two states, plus the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico, have active forces with different levels of activity, support, and strength. State defense forces generally operate with emergency management and homeland security missions.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_defense_force

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You see, these same people claimed Trump won the election in 2020. So no matter if Humpty Dumpty lost in 2024 what they claim should happen is...
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'shock troops' should take over the government if Trump runs and wins in 2024.

You're promoting a government takeover via a violent coup and pretend to be a patriot.


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So you want New York and California plus 20 other States to drop their Militia's? Their public armies?

Thought not.

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I just don't want democrats to propose they use force to overthrow the country if they lose an election. You shouldn't want republicans to do that either. But f course you say nothing about that.


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Originally Posted by PitDAWG
I just don't want democrats to propose they use force to overthrow the country if they lose an election. You shouldn't want republicans to do that either. But f course you say nothing about that.

I don't want to see anyone overthrow this Country, Republican, Democrat, Independent, Antifa, BLM, Klan, or Nazis.
We settle things with a vote 'round here! If the majority of folks believe in something, they will vote for it. Done deal.

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Yet as we've seen from the 2020 election results, many do not believe the vote counts. And those are the very same people that promote "taking over if Trump wins". They claimed he won in 2020 too. Either you don't get that or you don't want to get that.


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Originally Posted by PitDAWG
Yet as we've seen from the 2020 election results, many do not believe the vote counts. And those are the very same people that promote "taking over if Trump wins". They claimed he won in 2020 too. Either you don't get that or you don't want to get that.

Personally I think there were a lot of shenanigans in that Presidential election but not enough to put Trump over the top.
I do wonder why there was such a concerted effort to stop any Federal investigation and I am suspicious of the efforts made to put down anyone who questioned the results in Congress.

If it smells like a fish, its probably a fish. Not enough to change the results in my opinion.

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Because so many Republican officials certified their elections. Some had recounts and audits. 66 court cases were found to have no grounds or were quickly dismissed. There has to be actual grounds for an investigation. There were none.


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rofl

Look at all the Libs crying out emotionally about something that exists in 22 other States.

Nearly every state has laws authorizing state defense forces, and twenty-two states, plus the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico, have active forces with different levels of activity, support, and strength. State defense forces generally operate with emergency management and homeland security missions.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_defense_force

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Originally Posted by 40YEARSWAITING
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I just don't want democrats to propose they use force to overthrow the country if they lose an election. You shouldn't want republicans to do that either. But f course you say nothing about that.

I don't want to see anyone overthrow this Country, Republican, Democrat, Independent, Antifa, BLM, Klan, or Nazis.
We settle things with a vote 'round here! If the majority of folks believe in something, they will vote for it. Done deal.

Then why do you still back the INSURRECTIONIST GOVERNMENT?


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What Democrats have become part 666 - Communist China.


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Ok then. lmao@u.


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I’m getting to the point where I think he might actually be a progressive pulling a Stephen Colbert.


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