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No Playoffs, otherwise, they won the final game, 8-9 record.
The Bengals game, they swept the Bengals.


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Anyone know around where we're pegged to draft?

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Originally Posted by tru_dawgs
Anyone know around where we're pegged to draft?

Right now I think 13th


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I missed seeing the last two games live on TV because of work, so I'm glad I got to watch our final game live this afternoon. Happy we won! I know going 8 & 9 isn't what most of us expected, but at the very least we aren't horrible anymore.... and there's always next season. Go Browns!

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Originally Posted by jaybird
Originally Posted by tru_dawgs
Anyone know around where we're pegged to draft?

Right now I think 13th

That was heading into this week.
With our win and the ravens loss we pass them in the standings


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Originally Posted by Jester
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Originally Posted by tru_dawgs
Anyone know around where we're pegged to draft?

Right now I think 13th

That was heading into this week.
With our win and the ravens loss we pass them in the standings

yep... when I posted they hadn't lost yet... and I'm going off of https://www.tankathon.com/nfl. which looks like it's updating with today's results... will be some more movement with this afternoon's games


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Could be as bad as 16th

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FIRE STEFANSKI NOW!!!!!! JUST LET THAT RAPIST INTO PLAYOFFS


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We screwed ourselves and the rats screwed us.

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Originally Posted by Jester
Originally Posted by jaybird
Originally Posted by tru_dawgs
Anyone know around where we're pegged to draft?

Right now I think 13th

That was heading into this week.
With our win and the ravens loss we pass them in the standings

Bailtimore went from 8-3 to 8-9. So there is a bright spot.

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Originally Posted by Jester
Originally Posted by jaybird
Originally Posted by tru_dawgs
Anyone know around where we're pegged to draft?

Right now I think 13th

That was heading into this week.
With our win and the ravens loss we pass them in the standings

They have a stronger SOS it looks like - so it has us at 13 and them at 14?


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So we will be playing a 3rd place schedule next year:

At Washington
At Houston
Vs Las Vegas/LA Chargers loser tonight


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I wouldn't be surprised if the Browns are pegged to draft one spot after the ravens do. But, what I meant to say.

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Originally Posted by LexDawg
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Originally Posted by tru_dawgs
Anyone know around where we're pegged to draft?

Right now I think 13th

That was heading into this week.
With our win and the ravens loss we pass them in the standings

Bailtimore went from 8-3 to 8-9. So there is a bright spot.
They are missing a TON of players that are coming back. This was the year to take it to the rats. They will be full strength next season and much better. Bengals and rats are gonna rule the north for a long time if Bake doesn’t come back strong.

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I saw some report that MKC reported that Baker has hinted at a trade. I don't know how credible that might be....but I'd say the odds are good that Baker won't be here next year.


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I saw some report that MKC reported that Baker has hinted at a trade. I don't know how credible that might be....but I'd say the odds are good that Baker won't be here next year.

You must’ve been in a coma the past week.

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We won the game. A win is a win and we don't get enough of them. The win today feels good no matter what. I'll take it!!

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j/c...

- Got a thumbs up from Dieken.

- Hope D'Ernest Johnson gets paid by someone this offseason. Great story.

- Clowney is going to get paid by someone. Hope it's the Browns. At the same time an unmotivated Clowney worries me.

- Sat next to Zac Taylor's wife and family and Trent Taylor's wife.

- Borderline had a great time at this meaningless game.

- Grumpy's Cafe in Tremont has a delicious breakfast.

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- Hope D'Ernest Johnson gets paid by someone this offseason. Great story.

Agreed. Very little chance it will be us. Nor should it be.....no point paying significant $$ for a 3rd RB on the depth chart.

Is he a restricted FA? I forget all these rules....can we get something from him based on a qualifying offer?


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Bravo for d'Earnest.

That guy does not fail when given a chance to play. He has way to find a crease and get forward yards.

He has great vision and does not get hit square very often.

I hope he remains with the team.

Thought the effort was good. The defense played very well.

Of course this season was a disappointment but I understand how it happened.

Sometimes things just do not work out.

Stefanski has taken lots of heat. And sure he made his mistakes this season. But I remain in his court. I back him and am glad he is our coach.

He is a smart young coach and I believe he will learn from this years experience.

You have to allow young coaches to learn. It is a hard job. Learning does not come easy.

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Chubb and Hunt have missed enough time over the last 2 seasons to warrant signing D'Ernest Johnson if you can possibly do it. I don't care about conventional wisdom re: running backs - he's a keeper.

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- Hope D'Ernest Johnson gets paid by someone this offseason. Great story.

Agreed. Very little chance it will be us. Nor should it be.....no point paying significant $$ for a 3rd RB on the depth chart.

Is he a restricted FA? I forget all these rules....can we get something from him based on a qualifying offer?

He is a RFA. Best Browns could do would be to tender him in order to try and get a pick in return.......I think.

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I don't know about you all, but I'd rather have d'earnest as our 3rd RB than Felton

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FIRE STEFANSKI NOW!!!!!! JUST LET THAT RAPIST INTO PLAYOFFS

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- Hope D'Ernest Johnson gets paid by someone this offseason. Great story.

Agreed. Very little chance it will be us. Nor should it be.....no point paying significant $$ for a 3rd RB on the depth chart.

Is he a restricted FA? I forget all these rules....can we get something from him based on a qualifying offer?

He is a RFA. Best Browns could do would be to tender him in order to try and get a pick in return.......I think.

And the pick is based on the level of contract offered? The fact he was undrafted feels like it plays into the equation. But again, I forget these rules.

Or maybe that relates to the comp pick equation if we lose him.


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- Hope D'Ernest Johnson gets paid by someone this offseason. Great story.

Agreed. Very little chance it will be us. Nor should it be.....no point paying significant $$ for a 3rd RB on the depth chart.

Is he a restricted FA? I forget all these rules....can we get something from him based on a qualifying offer?

He is a RFA. Best Browns could do would be to tender him in order to try and get a pick in return.......I think.

And the pick is based on the level of contract offered? The fact he was undrafted feels like it plays into the equation. But again, I forget these rules.

Or maybe that relates to the comp pick equation if we lose him.

Restricted free agent (RFA): A player with three accrued seasons and an expired contract. RFAs are free to negotiate and sign with any team, but their original team can offer them one of various qualifying offers ("tenders") that come with the right of first refusal and/or draft-pick compensation. If the tender is withdrawn by a team, the RFA becomes an unrestricted free agent. In 2021, teams must submit these tenders before 4 p.m. ET on March 17. These amounts change annually; the following numbers are for the 2021 season. Players can choose either (a) or (b) regardless of which is greater in the applicable tenders below.
The RFA tenders are classified as follows:
First-round tender: One-year contract worth the greater of (a) $4.766 million or (b) 110 percent of the player's prior-year base salary. If the player's original team decides not to match an offer sheet signed with another team, it is entitled to a first-round draft pick from the player's new team. Unless received two days or later prior to the NFL draft, draft compensation for each tender is due in the same league year as the offer sheet is signed.
A signed offer sheet with a new team includes Principal Terms that must be matched by the prior club. However, if the new team includes terms that waive or limit its ability to designate the RFA a franchise player, the old team will not have to match this term if it has tendered the player with an offer worth $500,000 more than the first-round tender ($5.266 million in 2021).
Second-round tender: One-year contract worth the greater of (a) $3.384 million or (b) 110 percent of the player's prior-year base salary. Draft-choice compensation: second-round pick.
Original-round tender: One-year contract worth the greater of (a) $2.183 million or (b) 110 percent of the player's prior-year base salary. Draft-choice compensation: a pick in the round the player was originally drafted in.
Right-of-first-refusal tender: One-year contract worth $2.133 million. Team has the right to match any offer sheet signed with another team, but there is no draft compensation tied to this tender.
Upgraded tender: If a team places a first-round tender on a player who was selected outside of the first round, it can only receive a second-round pick as compensation for any of its other RFAs who were first-round draft picks. The same is true for the second-round tender -- if a team uses it on a player drafted in the third round or lower, it can only receive a third-round pick for any other second-round RFA it intends to tender. As an example, the Saints used a first-round RFA tender on QB/RB/WR/TE Taysom Hill during the 2020 offseason. Had New Orleans had any RFAs who were former first-round picks, it could only receive a second-round selection in return for a declined offer sheet.
RFA tender salary increases: Each of the tenders will increase by an additional amount during the 2021 and 2022 league years as follows: Right-of-first-refusal tender ($0), original-round tender ($50,000), second-round tender ($125,000) and first-round tender ($125,000). Due to the reduction in the salary cap in 2021, these tenders will only increase by the fixed amounts set above this offseason. Beginning in 2023, each of these tenders will only increase with this percentage of the salary cap (if any) from league year to league year.


https://www.nfl.com/news/2021-nfl-free-agency-glossary-all-the-terms-you-need-to-know

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Congrats on a great win!


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Originally Posted by boofers20
I don't know about you all, but I'd rather have d'earnest as our 3rd RB than Felton

Is it really bad to say that I’d trade Hunt to be able to keep Johnson?

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We left at least two games on the table.

Ten wins and we would have made the playoffs.

We have a good team. We can come back next year with some good pick ups.

Given where we have been in years past. I don't feel so bad. Getting back to winning 11 or 12 games next season is not beyond question.
I believe the defense will get better if we can add a few pieces.
The offense will need to improve to compete. We shall see how that goes.


So, I will look forward to free agency and the draft.

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Originally Posted by cfrs15
Originally Posted by boofers20
I don't know about you all, but I'd rather have d'earnest as our 3rd RB than Felton

Is it really bad to say that I’d trade Hunt to be able to keep Johnson?

It depends on the compensation, obviously.


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Originally Posted by MemphisBrownie
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I don't know about you all, but I'd rather have d'earnest as our 3rd RB than Felton

Is it really bad to say that I’d trade Hunt to be able to keep Johnson?

It depends on the compensation, obviously.

I don’t see anyone giving up much for Hunt.

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Originally Posted by cfrs15
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I don't know about you all, but I'd rather have d'earnest as our 3rd RB than Felton

Is it really bad to say that I’d trade Hunt to be able to keep Johnson?


I’d trade Hunt for a quality receiver.


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I don't know about you all, but I'd rather have d'earnest as our 3rd RB than Felton

Is it really bad to say that I’d trade Hunt to be able to keep Johnson?


I’d trade Hunt for a quality receiver.

Then you are not trading Hunt. My guess is the best we’d be able to get is a fourth round pick.

What would you rather have Hunt and no D’Ernest or D’Ernest and a fourth round pick?

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Just looked this up:

NicK Chubb - 228 carries, 1,259 Yards, 5.5 avg

d'Earnest - 100 carries, 534 Yards, 5.3 avg

Kareem - 78 carries, 386 Yards, 4.9 avg

Those are damn good numbers for three backs.

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Just a question: Did anyone feel Landry played a little harder today? i.e. not going down immediately after making a catch?

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Originally Posted by archbolddawg
Just a question: Did anyone feel Landry played a little harder today? i.e. not going down immediately after making a catch?


meh. maybe but, he and Bake was chatting it up all game. If that is a concern


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Originally Posted by archbolddawg
Just a question: Did anyone feel Landry played a little harder today? i.e. not going down immediately after making a catch?



Injuries are something us fans don't know the whole extent about, he might of been going down early due to his injury.. Landry is a class act !

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I wouldn't believe a single thing that comes from that hags mouth. She's a hack and hasn't written a single thing of her own worth reading ever.
If the media crosses the line in some way is there a way where the team can just give the media member the cold shoulder so they never answer their questions.


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