DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Tailgate Forum Malik McDowell Arrested

Given the lack of trust in the black community towards LEO's, I think it should be acknowledged, yes. It might be viewed as a fart in a blizzard, but reporting on a positive development might help - even if only a little bit - to heal the rift.

The lawyer was suggesting he was slipped something.

Assuming the officer isn't a 300'ish lb professional athlete... yep, pretty much.

I'm a cop. Guys like McDowell are a nightmare scenario when they start running around naked and threatening to fight. Tasers don't always work. He's charging at you. What's next? How fast can he run twenty or thirty feet? That's all the time you have left. And if he gets you he gets your gun. Ever fight someone that big, who probably isn't feeling pain like a mere mortal, and is not by any measure in their right mind? I have and he was in nowhere near NFL shape and I can tell you it is about as close to dying as it gets for most cops. He was alternating between ripping at my holster and pounding me in the face. I went all Pepe Le Pew on him with my OC spray, blinding us both in the process, but it winded him enough that I could get him into cuffs mostly because I sprayed it in his mouth. Against a pro athlete like McDowel I would not have been able to do that.

It's always a good day when someone obviously in some form of distress doesn't wind up getting shot in the process. Never hurts to slip an officer a donut and a pat on the back for doing things right.

I hope McDowell gets whatever is happening with him sorted out. He needs some professional help. Fortunately he has the resources to get it which is more than I can say for most folks who wind up in that situation.

Any time a perp goes after your gun I don't think an officer is wrong in shooting someone. This officer was not alone. I admire any cop who does the right thing. But doing the right things is what he or she is getting paid to do. It's their job. The sad part is dealing with the mentally ill isn't something they're actually equipped to deal with and for that part of it, I'm sad and feel sorry for you and every cop who is now saddled with having to deal with that while having not been given the training to do so.

I would argue that getting your eye beat in isn't doing your job properly.

Yeah, killing someone is better than taking a shot to the eye. Your post is what it looks like when life no longer has meaning. Depending on whose life it is.

j/c...

TMZ released the video of McDowell.

There is video of him in a gym talking with people and acting completely normal just an hour before the incident. The next video he's lying in the middle of a busy road naked before following the police into the parking lot.

I hope they did blood work on him at the ER. It's completely out of character, even considering his previous arrest where he was drunker than William Holden on a ten day bender. I'm betting the charges on this one get dropped.

My prayers go out to Malik. From what I hear he is a good guy when his mind is right. BUt his mind is not right all the time. Not sure if he has mental problems, or CTE but his mind is not right. I will continue to pray for him and his family, but I think his NFL career is over.

Wow. A William Holden reference? That’s old school, man.

On a serious note, I hope Malik gets the help he needs. If he is thinking clearly right now, he must feel miserable.

j/c:

NFL career = toast.

The post he responded to could be taken the same way.

Just like Deshaun Watson's.

Right...I suppose you are going to be standing there with open arm when a large, naked man starts to charge you.

Your post verifies you don't have a clue.

Yet both the officer as well as Malik are alive today. And I'm the one who doesn't have a clue? Under your scenario one of them would have been dead. It's sad you do not support the actions of this officer when he actually did the right thing.

That would be a reach of epic proportions. The officer and suspect both lived. That's not about anyone dying.

Officer subdues someone (his job) who's orders of magnitude more in terms of size, strength, and crazy... without using his gun (his primary advantage in the situation), while picking up potentially permanent eye injuring from the beating he took. And your response is "big deal, he just did his job". Not a reach, IMO. It's either the officer's life has no meaning to you, or you're just a keyboard warrior.

Words like "potential" play quite a role in spreading hyperbole. Getting hit in the eye. Can you tell me the odds of dying from that? And once again your hyperbole of me saying "big deal" and even putting it in quotes. Something I never said. Once again, you keep reaching. Who is it trying to play keyboard commando again?

I am glad it worked out the way it did, in that nobody died, but I would not have blamed the officer if he used a, shall we say, “tougher, more deadly approach”.

I understand that common sense sometimes isn't enough sometimes, but you have actual police officers commenting above in regards to handling these types of situations. You have a professional athlete pushing 400 lbs charging you that's clearly not right in the head... and using the accurate term of "potential eye injury" is hyperbole? You bring up hyperbole, and then say "Getting hit in the eye. Can you tell me the odds of dying from that?" If you tell me you're just trolling me to get a rise out of people, then I'll take the 'L'.

I paraphrased what you said, which should be pretty clear, but alright.... Tell me what you meant when you said "So the national media should give them special attention because they did their job properly?", and how it was so different from how I paraphrased it?

It's very different but of course you know that already. The reality of the situation is that tens of thousands of cops do the right thing on a daily basis. If we gave everyone of them national attention there would be no room for any other stories. We would have thousands upon thousands of stories like that. I think you knew that already too. Cops perform heroic deeds and act in heroic ways every day.

This cop handled it the right way. As such both are alive to talk about this very day. That's the exact same thing cops do across our nation every day. They do deserve recognition for that. That is the job they signed up for and I'm glad they did.

I never said anything about anyone dying. I just find if clueless that you think the cop just did his job by getting punched in the face. I don't see it that way at all. But, now we are getting off football.

McDowell needs to be cut....or not signed again. The guy has problems and we need to walk away from that.

You're the one using hyperbole. Threat of "great bodily injury" is justification for use of deadly force. This case most certainly met the definition. The officer should be recognized for exercising restraint.

Again, keep in mind who you are discussing with. There's not a thread that doesn't have him posting in it, and there's not a single thread where he won't change the goalposts to suit him.

Back on the topic. It's possible that Malik was either slipped something or has some mental issues, or (obviously) both. If he had never done anything like this before, then I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. He probably smoked something or drank something that had something in it that he didn't know about. - For that, I'm sympathetic. However, He's very, very, lucky that the police officer showed restraint - the officer would have had every right to use force against him and in a well-run state like Florida, would have been fully exonerated. I'm sure Malik is looking at some time not only for being naked in public, but also for assaulting a police officer. As for his NFL career, agreed, it's over with. I'm sympathetic because if he was indeed slipped something, I can't imagine what it's like waking up to a nightmare like this.

I wish we knew the exact time of day this happened.

I wonder if he took bath salts. That ish will make you flip out.

Maybe he was slipped something. Maybe he wasn't. As for actions, he does have a history of bizarre behavior and attacking police officers. Obviously, he does have some sort of mental problem. What that might be, I am not qualified to make a guess. What is known is the guy doesn't need to be out in public until someone determines what it is and if it can be controlled.

As is, the guy is a menace to society.

I agree though the thought of him playing football looks pretty slim to me. Determining what might be wrong is a process that will take more than a few months. He has already missed time, but as you said, the guy needs help.

There is the matter of the injured - possibly permanently disabled - policeman. McDowell will most likely spend time behind bars in the near term.

I'm not an attorney, but I don't think "they slipped me a mickey" is going to work as a defense.

Yeah, I don't think there is any way someone is getting away with charging, attacking and beating an officer.

Who knows though, there may be certain places in this country where you get a gift basket and some free meals.