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When in doubt, take the SEC player.


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Originally Posted by Ballpeen
When in doubt, take the SEC player.

When in doubt take the younger of the choices.

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my personal opinion is that Jameson William is a body catcher and will not be good in the NFL. He never high points the ball and likes to catch the ball around his waist.


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If we take a WR in the first, I think Garrett Wilson might be the guy to get.

Hhe likes to catch the ball away from his body and he seems to have that Landry/lunchpail kind of attitude with a 4.43 speed and good size at 6'


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My top 2 Wr's are Drake London USC and Treylon Burks Arkansas (in no particular order at this time)


I am torn on the best way for us to go in round 1. I would love a premier receiver but there are a lot of really good receivers in this draft. Starting with Burks Arkansas, London USC and Wilson OSU, followed by Jameson Williams Alabama, Olave OSU, Bell Purdue, Dotson PSU, Metchie Alabama to Ross Clemson and Pickens Georgia. urely one or more will be available when we pick in round 2.

I really Nakobe Dean. I would love to see Dean, Jok, and Delpit all on the field at the same time. Talk about speed on defense. I do wonder if Dean and Jok together would be too small?

At 13 we could get a top DE such as Karlaftis from Purdue. Especially if Clowney doesn't come back.

And we need a DT at some point. Leal from Texas A&M or Davis from Georgia would really bolster our d-line.


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Should the Browns bring back Jammie Gillan at punter, off of the bills practice squad.
Two recent punts from the Browns punter were less than 30 yards. I'm not sure the Bills appreciate the Scottish Hammer.


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Just because there are two WR's entering the draft from Ohio State, and just because they had a lot of catches, does that mean they will be any good in the NFL?


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Originally Posted by THROW LONG
Just because there are two WR's entering the draft from Ohio State, and just because they had a lot of catches, does that mean they will be any good in the NFL?


Idk. I do know the one kid, Wilson catches the ball very well and just seems to just go to work. Not sure about Olave.


Keep in mind... Williams also was from Ohio state. Lol


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Kid tore a ligament... maybe ACL... likely MCL...


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Originally Posted by jaybird
Kid tore a ligament... maybe ACL... likely MCL...


This is why these kids don't play in the playoffs.


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To take a receiver at thirteen I would have to be really high on the guy.

In the NFL corner is a premium position. Receivers are not open like they are in college. A NFL receiver has to be able to high point a ball and win 50/50 balls. Guys that win on separation like Tyreek Hill are rare.

Drake London are the types I like over Olave and Wilson.

If there is a good pass rusher there at 13 that is where I would go.

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A receiver drafted to this team really needs to have that 'lunchpail attitude' as someone said earlier. This is not a place for diva "I want all the accolades" receivers. Dude needs to be able to catch, and our O could really use some speed, but right behind those 2 is attitude and work ethic.


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Before last night I was in the take a WR camp. After last night I am all in on Nakobe Dean from Georgia if he is available to the Browns at #13. I think he is the type of linebacker and leader on the field that wins Championships. He is a fiery player that not only makes plays all over the field he pushes his teammates to fly around and make plays. His speed and toughness could really take the Browns defense to the next level.


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Bunch of nice LB'ers there. One can only hope !

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Bama lost 2 elite receivers this year. Metchie and Jamo. They may stay in school and come out in 2023.

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There is a decent chance that at 13 only one quarterback would be drafted.

Is it possible that Berry would draft a quarterback with our first pick?

Honestly I don't know the answer.

Berry will never say what he truly believes. He will give stock answers.

So there really is no way of knowing if he would draft a quarterback.

Obviously it would cause a stir.

Jimmy G has handled it well. The 49'ers are in the playoffs because of him.

My gut says he will not draft a qb. But that means nothing.

Between now and the draft I am going to do a deep dive into the top five qb prospects. Just because I don't know what Berry will do.

In the end I think we will draft a pass rusher with the 13th pick.

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13. Cleveland Browns — Treylon Burks, WR, Arkansas

The Browns passing offense desperately needs another playmaker and Burks has the ability to create big plays. He has an outstanding blend of size (6-3, 228) and speed (4.45) with the tracking skills and catch radius to be a quarterback’s best friend. Burks, who led the SEC with 22 plays of 20-plus yards in 2021, reminds me of a linebacker-sized Deebo Samuel.

44. Cleveland Browns — Drake Jackson, edge, USC

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Originally Posted by superbowldogg
my personal opinion is that Jameson William is a body catcher and will not be good in the NFL. He never high points the ball and likes to catch the ball around his waist.

I agree, but this the reason Garrett Wilson is the top WR in this draft he catches everything with his hands and high points the ball , I would never pass on Wilson if he is there at #13 ...


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While I completely agree WR is a need, I don't see us going there in round 1 (clearly a lot can change in the next 3 months). I've pimped Nakobe Dean before and I think he (or Devin Lloyd) combined with JOK would be a nightmare for offenses to plan for. Lloyd may be the better all around LB, but Dean's speed and ability to process makes up for it. To be open, I saw more Georgia games (4 or 5) than Utah (2) this year so I don't have a fair comparison.

In round 2, I'd like to see Leal if he drops. He didn't play as well this year as well as last year from what I read, but the one A&M game I saw he was hard to miss. Otherwise, there should be a few good WR to pick from (Dotson, Pickens, Moore). Its a little early to be specific but it makes the offseason more fun

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I like dean also and if we do not go WR in Rd. 1 he would be a great pick. I also like DT Jordan Davis from Georgia ...


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Originally Posted by SuperBrown
Bama lost 2 elite receivers this year. Metchie and Jamo. They may stay in school and come out in 2023.

Nevermind. They are both in the 2022 draft.

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Originally Posted by clwb419
While I completely agree WR is a need, I don't see us going there in round 1 (clearly a lot can change in the next 3 months). I've pimped Nakobe Dean before and I think he (or Devin Lloyd) combined with JOK would be a nightmare for offenses to plan for. Lloyd may be the better all around LB, but Dean's speed and ability to process makes up for it. To be open, I saw more Georgia games (4 or 5) than Utah (2) this year so I don't have a fair comparison.

In round 2, I'd like to see Leal if he drops. He didn't play as well this year as well as last year from what I read, but the one A&M game I saw he was hard to miss. Otherwise, there should be a few good WR to pick from (Dotson, Pickens, Moore). Its a little early to be specific but it makes the offseason more fun

I agree. I may not say going WR in the 1st would be a mistake.

Evidence shows that #1 receivers don't make much of a impact on ths O.

I also don't think a receiver would meet the criteria of best player available, but that remains to be seen.

While it may meet some need criteria, it isn't the only top need, so I wouldn't place receiver as a singular need. I also think that as you get further in to the draft, it gets easier to find good players v other positions.

One other thing about the O. We are a ball control O. When you have that you need a D to limit TOP for other teams and points scored.

I would lean towards the D with the #1 pick. I also expect us to drop down in the draft. If we do that, then receiver might become a play.


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I think that it's our Dline that really makes our defense work (getting pressure with little blitzing as well as handling the majority of the run-stuffing in front of our mediocre LB corps), and I think McDowell was going to be counted on as a significant contributor going forward. I hope, between FA and the draft, we hit DT hard. WR is also a dire need. Too many holes to fill while also planning for a potential need at QB in the next draft.


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You have a couple of tackle situations (McDowell on D and Conklin on O ) . Do you get Clowney back under contract ? Are you going into the 2022 season with Jackson and with questionable rotation ) at the other ? As , and others have stated , we have mediocre LB play . You could conceivably need a Starting DE and two Starting DT's .

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right now our Starting tackles are Day and Togai .. both starters from this year are FA


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Really early to figure out needs since AB could go multiple ways in free agency.

We have 1 more year to see what we have in Baker. I'm still a believer in a healthy Baker, but we HAVE to see it this year. That said, we have to give him the tools to succeed in the passing game. We have an all-star OL and running game, but if everyone is being honest, all our recieving options were subpar this year. We really missed Hunt on 3rd downs.

To properly evaluate Baker in this final year, we have to give him some targets.

My top 2 WR in the draft are London and Wilson. If we go DT, I'd like to see DeMarvin Leal, but I don't know howmy the Browns value DT as a position - we were able to have a pretty good defense this year with subpar play from our DTs. I think EDGE is pretty deep this class, so I'd be inclined to wait until the 2nd or 3rd round this year to draft one. However, if Karlaftis were to somehow fall to us, he would be hard to pass on.

Just my thoughts early in this offseason.

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If Baker plays well, do you think he wants to play here any longer? I don't think it is a crazy question.


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Where could he go where he can play as inconsistently as he has here and get a pass?


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Originally Posted by Ballpeen
If Baker plays well, do you think he wants to play here any longer? I don't think it is a crazy question.

I’m sure he’d be willing to take the Haslam’s money.

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Some seem to think it's all about the money. I'm not one of them .. I posted several times this season that I could see the utter discuss in Bakers facr when coming off the field and he had to fight himself on the side lines . My opinion and maybe I'm all wet , but that's what I saw. I am very curious to see who signs here in the off season.

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If the Browns do not draft WR in round #1 I like a couple 2 day WR's quite a bit. Justyn Ross Clemson is a 6'4 WR with a large catch radius, physical receiver, and a very good blocker at the edge. Which should work nicely in our run heavy ball control offense. His size and catch radius would help Baker out quite a bit. He should be available in the 2nd round. In the 3rd round Cincinnati Bearcats WR Alec Pierce 6'3 with a very good catch radius. Also a willing blocker which fits our run heavy offense with size and catch radius that would really help Baker out. I would be very happy if the Browns grabbed a Linebacker like Nakobe Dean in round 1 and then went Wide Receiver Ross, and Wide Receiver Pierce in rounds 2 and 3.


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Originally Posted by Day of the Dawg
If the Browns do not draft WR in round #1 I like a couple 2 day WR's quite a bit. Justyn Ross Clemson is a 6'4 WR with a large catch radius, physical receiver, and a very good blocker at the edge. Which should work nicely in our run heavy ball control offense. His size and catch radius would help Baker out quite a bit. He should be available in the 2nd round. In the 3rd round Cincinnati Bearcats WR Alec Pierce 6'3 with a very good catch radius. Also a willing blocker which fits our run heavy offense with size and catch radius that would really help Baker out. I would be very happy if the Browns grabbed a Linebacker like Nakobe Dean in round 1 and then went Wide Receiver Ross, and Wide Receiver Pierce in rounds 2 and 3.


I honestly feel getting one of them would be better then investing in a WR with a first round pick. Wrs like to get the ball thrown to them and the scheme Stefanski uses would limit them getting the ball as much as they would like. I can see an unhappy first round WR saying "hey you picked me in the round, I'm a first rounder, why aren't you throwing the ball to me more ? "

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So would our offense be more geared towards loading up on solid-if-unspectacular vets FAs?


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I think we will have to go DL or an Offensive Tackle in the first . A lot depends on if we are resigning Clowney and the FA period. Take a look at Chad Mamu ( LB. Wyoming ) as a mid round pick.

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If an OT is the pick when the draft gets to us, the so be it. Finding our short-term stand-in and eventual replacement for Conklin (or even Hubbard) is still a step forward.


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What spot is the OL playing if Conklin is back?

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We still need a replacement for Hubbard (our 6th Olineman has played a decent # of snaps in the past).


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Like OOB says , You need 3 OT that can step up.. We played with 1 last season . I wouldn't bet my season ( ol ) on Conklin making it back AND playing at his usual level. I also think there are folks who still question Wils at LT .

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I certainly won't disagree that we need a swing tackle. But with all of our other needs at the time, I think a mid 1st round pick to address that would be a price that's too high to pay for depth. I really can't disagree that we may have to look at replacing Conklin when his contract is up either. I just feel they will see other priorities as more critical at this time to spend a first round pick at the OT position this year in the draft.


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