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He’s great. Starting over on defense when we finally have continuity doesn’t seem wise. But I want chaos when we're on defense. The good kind, where it happens to the other team, not us. Starting over from scratch with a completely different scheme that doesn’t fit our personnel doesn’t seem like it would create the right kind of chaos.
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I'm willing to be educated on that. It just seems like we could implement a version of that kind of defense with players like Koramoah, Phillips, and Delpit.
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This would be trading up from our current DC, Woods, for sure. I think he got the minimum this defense was capable of this year. And I would really like somebody that knows how to blitz going forward.
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You want to replace the most productive coach we have on the coaching staff. Only in Cleveland.
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This seems like a wise move for them to make.
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Especially if they want to bring Rodgers and Adams along, too.
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Especially if they want to bring Rodgers and Adams along, too. (That was my point.) Adams isn’t going anywhere. The Packers will either sign him to an extension or franchise him. He especially isn’t going anywhere with Rodgers because whoever trades for Rodgers will be giving up several first round picks to get him.
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That's insane. He's a great DC, and did a great job with much of his defense on IR. He was only there a few years.. I thought Ravens D was pretty tough, so what was the problem.. Issues between Wink and the HC? My first question is, does he bring more baggage than he's worth? Honestly, I don't know the answer,, But by all outward appearances, he's a hell of a coach....
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Especially if they want to bring Rodgers and Adams along, too. (That was my point.) Adams isn’t going anywhere. The Packers will either sign him to an extension or franchise him. He especially isn’t going anywhere with Rodgers because whoever trades for Rodgers will be giving up several first round picks to get him. His cap hit is 46 mill in 2022 if he stays and his dead cap is 26 mill if he is traded prior to June 1. After, June 1 it's 19.2 mill in 2022 and $7.7 million in 2023. The league's new year starts march 16th at pm. (they have to be under the cap at this moment) The draft is April 20-30 no one will trade several picks for Rodgers in June. They may trade a late-round pick in June. He really has GB by the cheese because it is after the draft or free agency will want to trade 2023 assets for him. Plus, he won' have the offseason to learn an offense and a GM won't have time to draft players to make a run for the SB. whoever wrote this deal really was very intentional and a total savage. I could see Rodgers retiring after the draft on May 1 because he would really, really stick it to GB
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I once thought that the Stafford deal would ever happen.. Shocked the hell out of me. So does that mean anything is possible? I think so
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Teams have been willing to eat dead cap way more than ever before the last couple of seasons.
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You want to replace the most productive coach we have on the coaching staff. Only in Cleveland. If WOODS is the best coach we have, blow it all up now. smdh. Woods sucks. The talent is there, that's what you saw. Now we need a DC that knows how to use it and BLITZ.
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You want to replace the most productive coach we have on the coaching staff. Only in Cleveland. If WOODS is the best coach we have, blow it all up now. smdh. Woods sucks. The talent is there, that's what you saw. Now we need a DC that knows how to use it and BLITZ. 🤦♂️
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You want to replace the most productive coach we have on the coaching staff. Only in Cleveland. If WOODS is the best coach we have, blow it all up now. smdh. Woods sucks. The talent is there, that's what you saw. Now we need a DC that knows how to use it and BLITZ. 🤦♂️ What is that?
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You want to replace the most productive coach we have on the coaching staff. Only in Cleveland. If WOODS is the best coach we have, blow it all up now. smdh. Woods sucks. The talent is there, that's what you saw. Now we need a DC that knows how to use it and BLITZ. 🤦♂️ What is that? Two square boxes on my screen.
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You want to replace the most productive coach we have on the coaching staff. Only in Cleveland. If WOODS is the best coach we have, blow it all up now. smdh. Woods sucks. The talent is there, that's what you saw. Now we need a DC that knows how to use it and BLITZ. 🤦♂️ What is that? Two square boxes on my screen. Facepalm emoji!
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This seems like a wise move for them to make.
What's a Nat Hackett??? excuse my ignorance but who the heck is this guy???
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I am guessing Sean Payton is going to the broadcast booth with Al Michaels and Troy Aikman both likely to go to to Amazon to broadcast Thursday Night Football games.
He'll make as much or more in the booth without all the headache.
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I am guessing Sean Paytonis going to the broadcast booth with Al Michaels and Troy Aikman both likely to go to to Amazon to broadcast Thursday Night Football games.
He'll make as much or more in the booth without all the headache.
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The optics of this are rather funny for a few reasons. That said, he's probably been interviewed 11 times already, though.
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If Williams takes it, I bet he does well.
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If Williams takes it, I bet he does well. If Williams takes it, like teams are banging down the door to hire him for any position let alone head coach. (Also, it’s a parody account. No one is hiring Gregg Williams because he is a terrible coach and person.)
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Didn't realize it's a parody account, but I thought Williams would make a good head coach. Meh. And if he takes it has nothing to do with rather they are or aren't knocking his door down. Guess now I have to keep up with NFL parody accounts too. As if Devin Nunes Cow wasn't enough, smdh.
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What's a Nat Hackett??? excuse my ignorance but who the heck is this guy??? Copyright Infringement eo.... 
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Williams seems like the kind of coach that can come in and do really well, but can't seem to sustain it. In all honesty, he could be a good get for someone like the Jags (or a team that's looking to turn the corner.
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Hope he does well... always liked Leftwich
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That's very cool. And, man, he and Vrabel sure are fast-risers, aren't they??!!
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So, as far as I know, we are looking for a Defensive Line Coach. Unless they were to add a co-defensive coordinator tag to that, I seriously doubt we have a shot at Martindale. And maybe even not then. HOWEVER, Wink is more of a LB coach has been his whole career for the most part. So not sure it is the best fit anyway. The news that I have heard is that the Ravens and Martindale could not come to terms with an extension...
So who are/should we be looking at to replace Kiffin at DL coach????
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So, as far as I know, we are looking for a Defensive Line Coach. Unless they were to add a co-defensive coordinator tag to that, I seriously doubt we have a shot at Martindale. And maybe even not then. HOWEVER, Wink is more of a LB coach has been his whole career for the most part. So not sure it is the best fit anyway. The news that I have heard is that the Ravens and Martindale could not come to terms with an extension...
So who are/should we be looking at to replace Kiffin at DL coach???? I'd bet that Woods and Stefanski both have their own short lists and Berry is going over them. I wouldn't be shocked in the least if whomever it is comes from either the Minnesota or 49ers... or, perhaps someone from his time in Denver when he was the D-Coord there. They had a pretty stout defense there in Denver and I could easily see Woods wanting someone that came up through the ranks under Bill Kollar, who has been the DLine Coach there since 2015, and has learned the ins and outs of how he coaches.
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Getting someone they have a history with and is familiar with our system makes the most sense by far.
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