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Just imagine the recruits thoughts...............he's going. Oh, he's not. This year.

We’re up to three former Browns assistants getting head coaching jobs this off-season (O’Connell, Eberflus, and Daboll) with three jobs still open. If Mike McDaniels gets the Dolphins job, which it seems like he will, then that will make it four.

Buckeye fans rejoice!

Should have stuck with Rich... that guy did an amazing job and had the respect of the locker room

I was shocked he was interviewing... finally seems to have UM going the right direction and he's thinking of jumping ship?!?

He probably thinks last season was a one-off and it's time to get out on a high note. He caught the Buckeyes with a very, very young team while he had a very experienced team at home.

Chad O’Shea, our receivers coach, was mentioned as a possibility for this job.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/jaguars-to-name-doug-pederson-as-teams-new-head-coach/

The Jacksonville Jaguars have announced Doug Peterson as their next head coach. CBS Sport NFL Insider Jason La Canfora confirmed the reports earlier on Thursday night. The 54-year-old coach and former NFL quarterback led the Eagles to the franchise's first Super Bowl at the end of the 2017 season. Pederson will become the Jaguars' third head coach in as many seasons.

Philadelphia's coach from 2016-20, Pederson went 42-37-1 regular season and 4-2 in the postseason during that span. In 2017, Pederson led the Eagles to a 13-3 regular season record. Philadelphia then defeated New England 41-33 in Super Bowl LIII behind an MVP performance from backup quarterback Nick Foles. The Eagles then posted consecutive 9-7 seasons before stumbling to a 4-11-1 record in 2020. Pederson was fired after the 2020 season and did not coach this past season.

A high school coach from 2005-08, Pederson joined Andy Reid's coaching staff in Philadelphia in 2009. He quickly ascended from a control coach to the team's quarterbacks coach 2011. He followed Reid to Kanas City in 2013, serving as the Chiefs' offensive coordinator from 2013-15.

Pederson enjoyed a 10-year NFL career that included seven seasons as Brett Favre's backup quarterback in Green Bay. He won a Super Bowl in 1996 while working with Favre and Reid, who served as the Packers' quarterbacks coach.

Pederson will take over a Jaguars franchise that has endured four consecutive losing seasons after making it to the AFC Championship Game in 2017. Jacksonville went 3-14 last season after firing Urban Meyer after a 1-12 start. For a second straight year, the Jaguars have the No. 1 pick in the 2021 draft. Our CBS Sports NFL Draft experts have the Jaguars taking either Michigan pass rusher Aidan Hutchinson, Alabama offensive lineman Evan Neal or Oregon pass rusher Kayvon Thibodeaux with the first overall pick.

What happened that got Pederson fired in Philly? Was it the end of Wentz's time there that did him in? I don't follow the Eagles at all, but my recollection is that he was a pretty decent coach that won a SB with his backup QB.

I believe he was having some disagreements with the front office. Also, the offense went down the tube when Frank Reich left (I think).

I can't believe we're doing the 2021 Draft again this year.

I must have been mistaken. I didn't think they were allowed to announce these HC hires until after the SB.

The editor must’ve been asleep. Peterson instead of Pederson too.

They are allowed unless the head coach works for one of the teams in the Super Bowl. That’s why the Vikings haven’t officially announced their hiring of Kevin O’Connell yet.

Thanks.

Well, if he gets the job, it will be short lived if he goes out there and coaches the way he coached in Cleveland. I'm sure McDaniels' would be overjoyed watching his Pro Bowl TE Waller's targets drop 50% year over year and Waller's step or more separation against a man defense drop to below 30%. Obviously, something is missing when you're looking at a TE coach for OC coming from run first scheme going to a team with a new head coach that runs a spread offense with their top receiver being the TE position with a gun slinger QB. Seems like oil and water trying to mix but we'll see...............

You really need to figure out who it is you're going to blame for the offense. You keep spreading the love around like every member of the coaching staff had a say in the system we run or how it wasn't limited due to Baker's injury. It does make for a rather humorous read though.

I find it interesting that two of our assistant coaches are being mentioned/interviewed for NFL OC positions, but you-know-who won't let anyone else have a sniff at play-calling in Cleveland.

So you're trying to insinuate our position coaches should be calling the plays?

Another perspective would be that Stefanski is developing his coaches to the point where other teams want them. Or are you suggesting the tight ends coach should be calling plays?

Again, we had a very successful run game. Our receivers were open a bunch. The offense was great last year with Stefanski calling plays. Why anyone would think the person calling the plays on the day of games should step down is an argument I don’t understand.

(Chad O’Shea got the interview with the Giants because he and Daboll have the Belichick connection and he called plays for the Dolphins.)

Yeah, I wouldn't read much into these things, especially on teams with new HC trying to put together a staff. Past relationships will mean more than experience.

Past relationships are king... it's not What you know, but Who you know. Beyond that, it's pretty much as simple as we just have some really good, smart, people on this staff.

It has nothing to do with playcalling or anything else; these guys are just good, and smart.... and, contrary to the beliefs in some over-analyzed threads around here, having smart people around is a Very Good Thing.

DAWG, come on, you're not really that single focused with blinders on are you?

Stefanski ran the scheme because - duh he was calling the plays. Each of the positions normally have position coaches. Now if the TE's suck, it would be a normal assumption that the axe should fall to that coach before the head coach. If it doesn't - then who do you think is responsible? I mean it's pretty common knowledge that you get what you accept so if the TE coach is still in Cleveland than Stefanski is obviously ok with them not having a single TE that could get a step or more separation against man defense more than 30% of the time. I don't know, I suspect when you have an injured QB and you change the scheme to where almost 50% of the plays are run with 2 and 3 TE sets that when you pass out of those sets you aren't actually doing your injured QB any favors when the TE's you flooded on the filed can't get separation in man defense more than 30% of the time.

I don't disagree that Baker's injury limited some of what the Browns could do. I don't disagree that Mayfield has things to work on because he does. Stefanski's scheme did not put Mayfield into situations where he could be successful. Add into that fact that Chubb and Hunt missed games, the offensive line was pieced together, the WR group had a terrible year, and as stated above - Mayfield didn't get a lot of help from his TE group.

Now contrary to a lot of posts on this forum, I have never asked for a change at Head Coach like hundreds of posts want to crucify and replace Mayfield not taking into account any of the other issues. What I have posted is that the scheme needs to change and Stefanski needs to give up the play calling. I think they need a dedicated QB coach and a 21st century Offensive Coordinator. I think that the TE Coach and WR Coach did not pull their weight this year and it had a serious impact on the team. Now all of these things can be fixed but it takes willing partners and that part I'm not sure of but this off season will tell a lot not only about 2022 Browns but the many years that follow.

j/c...

Are the Ravens planning a teardown?

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Wow, between this and the Hue news, a certain poster on here must be having a really bad week.

“SASHI BROWN WILL NEVER WORK IN THE NFL AGAIN!”

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Ravens are very analytical, so adding Sashi fits their agenda. I think it's a good hire.

Hue Jackson's lack of understanding of the analytical game bought down the whole front office.

Analytically speaking, Sashi Brown, Andrew Berry, and Sean McDermott would have been an interesting group. It's too bad Jimmy Haslam would not listen to his staff. It took a few years, I think Kevin Stefanski is a great alternative for Sean. We just lost Sashi replacement to Minnesota.

I don't recall who it is - but someone has had a standing joke about Sashi never being employed by an NFL team ever again ... and now he's going to one of the best run organizations in the NFL. Be interesting to see how he performs. Wouldn't be the first time someone cut their teeth with us and then went on to do good things elsewhere.

Who was that person?

He had it in his sig.

Another aspect Haslem should have taken blame for.....choosing Hue over Sashi/the plan.

Yep. There was a real possibility Sashi would have promoted Berry to his role at the time of GM with Sashi moving on to team President. It all worked. Just took longer and cost Haslam $10M+ to learn a tough lesson.

This will make a couple people's head explode.

Just a couple?