There was a time not so long ago that I would and did argue this point with you. Not anymore. I do like that you qualified it the way you did. I think accuracy and the ability to go through your reads is a higher priority in the grand scheme of things. But having the ability to scramble and run to a degree is also high on the list in today's NFL.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
Interesting. People can have their opinion on Todd but he is serious about his job.
As soon as I looked at Malik Willis's tape. I felt he would be on those guys who would come up the draft Boards.
The reason is because potential is being graded higher than before. You can not look at a players tape today and judge them as is.
You have to forecast what he can become. That is not easy when you look at guys who are 20-23. They can and do make mistakes. They are far from finished products. What can this guy do if we can clean up his shortcomings?
That is why the 49ers gave up so much to get Trey Lance.
Kyle Murray is 5' 10" and 207lbs. He was taken number one because of his overall skills with mobility a huge factor.
Malik Willis is 6' 1" listed at 225lbs. He has the same type skills. Malik Willis is incredibly fast. In his sophomore year at Auburn Univeristy back in 2018, it was reported that he ran a 4.37 40 yard dash.
He also can spin it and has a quick release.
His tape shows sometime poor judgement. He had a 64.2% completion rate in 2020.
He will get picked apart for all kinds of things between now and the draft.
But people will look at the potential of the skills that can not be coached up.
There was a time not so long ago that I would and did argue this point with you. Not anymore. I do like that you qualified it the way you did. I think accuracy and the ability to go through your reads is a higher priority in the grand scheme of things. But having the ability to scramble and run to a degree is also high on the list in today's NFL.
I purposely set the number low so as not to freak people out. Since most QB's only run when the field is open in front of them they tend to gain yards in chunks. Being such, if they sort of think about running more, I could see a pretty easy 40-50 yards a game. QB's can still slide for protection. That type of yardage per game puts them around 800 yards per season. QB yardage doesn't take the same type of punishment running backs take.
At any rate, I want a QB who can be a threat with his legs and arm.
If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
I think about Harrison Bryant. They really liked him, and when he dropped they pulled the trigger. I would think something similar would need to happen with the QB.
There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.
How dumb are the Jaguars? It seems like they are pretty dumb. Maybe we won’t have to trade the standard three first to trade up to #1. Maybe we can just get away with 13 and next year’s first.
That the Steelers will pick Willis if they get a crack at him.
I think he’s going to be the first QB off the board. That means the only way you get him for sure is if you trade up to one. If you love a QB and don’t have a QB you should always trade up to get one if you can.
How dumb are the Jaguars? It seems like they are pretty dumb. Maybe we won’t have to trade the standard three first to trade up to #1. Maybe we can just get away with 13 and next year’s first.
I hope for his sake that he's not overdrafted and has expectations he can't handle put on him.
There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.
Personally I am one who really believes in a rookie qb sitting a year. Unless you know you can not compete and the young man knows you will live with his mistakes. He is told do your best we will help you. You are starting because we want you to gain experience.
For those guys getting picked mid first or later. Let them sit. They could have come out early. Lack experience. Gone through a wirlwind of activity going through the draft process. Then thrown into a first year camp. You should not expect him to start.
Willis is raw. Played at a small school. He will need time.
He has the upside ceiling.
I have no idea at all if the Browns would take him.
My guess is no they will not. IMO they will take a DE or receiver.
I have zero faith we draft a QB in round one period.
That’s understandable. If a person thinks we should stick with Baker for another year then they should come to that conclusion. I am not that person.
I think it far more depends on what you think the FO and coaching staff plans to do. It's true that we disagree on Baker being our QB next season. But I'm basing my opinion as to drafting a QB in round 1 this year on what I think the FO will do. I'm quite sure that neither of our opinions will be a part of their decision.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
Speak for yourself. Each of my posts is shown directly to Andrew Berry.
I believe the front office knows the importance of taking shots on QBs. Berry has said that he learned the most from Howie Roseman. Roseman’s philosophy is to keep taking shots at QBs until you find one. I wouldn’t be surprised at all if we took a QB at 13 or traded up for a QB.
So you think a first round draft pick on a QB is "taking a shot"? I see that as more of a huge investment. Giving up multiple first round draft picks to move up is much more than just taking a shot.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
So you think a first round draft pick on a QB is "taking a shot"? I see that as more of a huge investment. Giving up multiple first round draft picks to move up is much more than just taking a shot.
By taking a shot I mean keep looking for a QB if you don’t have one instead of being complacent. Roseman traded a ton for Carson Wentz when he already had Sam Bradford. He then used a second round pick on Jalen Hurts when he already had Wentz. If the front office doesn’t think Baker Mayfield can be a quality starter going forward then I’d expect them to do something drastic. I don’t think they think Baker can be a quality starter going forward (despite what they have said publicly).
I have no problem drafting a QB that could (at least eventually) push Baker off the roster. I have a BIG problem sinking our entire draft into a QB. Neither our team, nor the draft is such that we should be sinking so much into one of the QBs.
There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.
I have no problem drafting a QB that could (at least eventually) push Baker off the roster. I have a BIG problem sinking our entire draft into a QB. Neither our team, nor the draft is such that we should be sinking so much into one of the QBs.
We are literally a QB away from being a powerhouse.
We are literally a QB AND a few wide receivers away from being a powerhouse.
FIFY
I can understand how a person might have this opinion and won’t dispute it. I don’t think we have the best wide receivers but I think the ones we do have are adequate.
There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.
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