Spending billions every year in a "war on drugs" that has proven to be an utter failure and has proven pointless. I certainly don't understand the whole crack pipe thing. People who want to use drugs are going to use them. If the history of the war on drugs has taught us anything, it has taught us that.
Both AIDS and Hep C can be transmitted through dirty needles among other diseases. I don't think it has anything to do with being "woke". It's whether you want to pay for cheap needles or lifetime of healthcare costs for these people. You may wish to better inform yourself on how these programs are conducted and how they actually work before you generalize....
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What is an SSP?
Syringe services programs (SSPs) are also referred to as syringe exchange programs (SEPs) and needle exchange programs (NEPs). Although the services they provide may vary, SSPs are community-based programs that provide access to sterile needles and syringes, facilitate safe disposal of used syringes, and provide and link to other important services and programs such as
Referral to substance use disorder treatment programs. Screening, care, and treatment for viral hepatitis and HIV. Education about overdose prevention and safer injection practices. Vaccinations, including those for hepatitis A and hepatitis B. Screening for sexually transmitted diseases. Abscess and wound care. Naloxone distribution and education. Referral to social, mental health, and other medical services.
Some states have passed laws specifically legalizing SSPs because of their life-saving potential. SSPs may also be legal in states where possession and distribution of syringes without a prescription are legal.
Decisions about use of SSPs as part of prevention programs are made at the state and local levels. The Federal Consolidated Appropriations Act of 2016 includes language that gives states and local communities meeting certain criteria the opportunity to use federal funds provided through the Department of Health and Human Services to support certain components of SSPs, with the exception of provision of needles, syringes, or other equipment used solely for the purposes of illicit drug use. Do SSPs help people to stop using drugs?
Yes. When people who inject drugs use an SSP, they are more likely to enter treatment for substance use disorder and stop injecting than those who don’t use an SSP.1,2,3,4 New users of SSPs are five times as likely to enter drug treatment as those who don’t use the programs. People who inject drugs and who have used an SSP regularly are nearly three times as likely to report a reduction in injection frequency as those who have never used an SSP.2 Do SSPs reduce infections?
Yes. Nonsterile injections can lead to transmission of HIV, viral hepatitis, bacterial, and fungal infections and other complications. By providing access to sterile syringes and other injection equipment, SSPs help people prevent transmitting bloodborne and other infections when they inject drugs. In addition to being at risk for HIV, viral hepatitis, and other blood-borne and sexually transmitted diseases, people who inject drugs can get other serious, life-threatening, and costly health problems, such as infections of the heart valves (endocarditis), serious skin infections, and deep tissue abscesses. Access to sterile injection equipment can help prevent these infections, and health care provided at SSPs can catch these problems early and provide easy-to-access treatment to a population that may be reluctant to go to a hospital or seek other medical care.5,6,7 Top of Page Do SSPs cause more needles in public places?
No. Studies show that SSPs protect the public and first responders by providing safe needle disposal and reducing the presence of needles in the community.8,9,10,11,12,13 Do SSPs lead to more crime and/or drug use?
No. SSPs do not cause or increase illegal drug use. They do not cause or increase crime.14,15 Are SSPs cost effective?
Yes. SSPs reduce health care costs by preventing HIV, viral hepatitis, and other infections, including endocarditis, a life-threatening heart valve infection. The estimated lifetime cost of treating one person living with HIV is more than $450,000.16 Hospitalizations in the U.S. for substance-use-related infections cost over $700 million each year.17 SSPs reduce these costs and help link people to treatment to stop using drugs. Do SSPs reduce drug use and drug overdoses?
SSPs help people overcome substance use disorders. If people who inject drugs use an SSP, they are more likely to enter treatment for substance use disorder and reduce or stop injecting.1,2,3,4 A Seattle study found that new users of SSPs were five times as likely to enter drug treatment as those who didn’t use the programs.2 People who inject drugs and who have used an SSP regularly are nearly three times as likely to report reducing or stopping illicit drug injection as those who have never used an SSP.2 SSPs play a key role in preventing overdose deaths by training people who inject drugs how to prevent, rapidly recognize, and reverse opioid overdoses. Specifically, many SSPs give clients and community members “overdose rescue kits” and teach them how to identify an overdose, give rescue breathing, and administer naloxone, a medication used to reverse overdose.18,19,20,21,22,23
There will be no playoffs. Can’t play with who we have out there and compounding it with garbage playcalling and worse execution. We don’t have good skill players on offense period. Browns 20 - Bears 17.
No doubt news sources need to vetted by the reader. Many on either side are more like the National Enquirer.
Every now and then they have a news item that proves out, but most of the time it is "fake" news created to draw attention and isn't worth it's salt. I can be critical of the President and his advisors, but I seriously doubt they provide crack pipes.
If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
FWIW, I don’t think substituting a far right source with Tucker Carlson is exactly a move to objectivity.
Objectivity? Please explain what "reference" would be objective when the left media REFUSES TO REPORT.
If you've got a minute, go google "covid natural immunity". Stories from all over the world... and Fox... with headlines of our own CDC saying natural immunity offers better protection. Left media REFUSES TO REPORT. Does that mean it's not true?
Yeah, don't bother with the Free Beacon, Tucker nails it on the head.
You should be ashamed to post that garbage. Tucker Carlson must be your daddy.
A. Tell me which part is garbage or "shut up". B. You sound like you're five again. C. My dad died when I was two, I'm part of a marginalized community, mine is still waiting for free crack pipes... because I'm white.
i dont want to jump into you and OCD's argument, but bidens plan with the crack pipes is actually a good thing.
its worked in portugal and canada, decriminalizing drug use and having places with clean equipment for addicts. a lot of people who used those facilities end up going through rehab.
part of that process, however, is making sure we can prevent the spread of diseases due to dirty needles and such. even in a financial perspective, that makes sense because it saves the system money in the long run.
we have to start somewhere. because how we currently handle drug use is not working.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
Yeah, don't bother with the Free Beacon, Tucker nails it on the head.
You should be ashamed to post that garbage. Tucker Carlson must be your daddy.
A. Tell me which part is garbage or "shut up". B. You sound like you're five again. C. My dad died when I was two, I'm part of a marginalized community, mine is still waiting for free crack pipes... because I'm white.
A: ALL OF IT! And stop stealing my lines. B: Five is more mature than you. More intelligent too. C: Oh, you are a reverse racism whiner... I see you.
Your feelings and opinions do not add up to facts.
He's not being logical Swish, he's over the top like his daddy Tucker. Republicans only like safe spaces for themselves, lowly junkies couldn't be republican… smh. I guess understanding that safe spaces to use as a tool in preventing, intervening, or as a stepping stone to a rehab program is too much for them to process.
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Your feelings and opinions do not add up to facts.
Reasonable approach, if that was "Biden's plan". I've seen no such plan...
“safe smoking kits” will provide pipes for the consumption of “any illicit substance” to reduce the risk of infection, which can potentially occur through cuts and sores.
How you're going to go from "free rigs at the Mission, bro!" to "I'm messed up, I need help" will likely have nothing to do with the free pipes.
As far as the bigger picture... We'll be handing out free pipes and syringes on one street corner and providing free "no-knocks" and dead bystanders two blocks over... probably for marijuana. So yes, your last sentence is so profound it's scary, with no end in sight.
The Biden Administration Is Not Giving Black People Crack Pipes And Calling It Racial Equity
The Harm Reduction Program Grant supports community-based programs geared toward overdose prevention, syringe services programs, and other harm reduction services.
You see, helping to stop the flood of overdoses that have skyrocketed during the pandemic isn't a Republican of Democrat thing. Actually people should be applauding this move. Suburban, Republican households are being hit by these overdose deaths just as hard as anyone else. Heroin and Fentanyl don't care who you or your parents voted for.
It's rather strange when you think about it. Republicans have been raging about the rising overdose deaths in this country and are now the same people raging when someone tries to help cut down on those overdoses. Who would have thought such a thing would happen? A lot of us.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
As far as the bigger picture... We'll be handing out free pipes and syringes on one street corner and providing free "no-knocks" and dead bystanders two blocks over... probably for marijuana. So yes, your last sentence is so profound it's scary, with no end in sight.
This is what happens when someone doesn't actually find out how these programs work even after they've been given the information. There are links on how they work in this very thread.
When people care more about spreading lies to make political points rather than give a damn about reducing overdose deaths, this is what you'll get. But many of these very same people have proven they don't care about reducing the deaths of their fellow Americans ever since the Covid pandemic started. So who is really surprised by any of it?
Please try to educate yourself on how and why this program works before you keep droning on making yourself look more foolish.
Once again, free crack pipes is not going to cut down on overdoses.
Wow.
You obviously didn't read anything I posted because you haven't had time to read it. Smoking kits have been a part of this program all along. It's not something "Biden added or wrote". If you had bothered to read anything, it has been shown that people who use this resource are far more likely to get drug treatment than those that aren't because getting resources from them put them in touch with professional counselors as well. This program also supplies people with NARCAN to reduce overdoses. What you have decided to do is pick one single issue with thie entire program and focus on that rather than admit the great benefits it provides. You do you.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
Don't need to "educate myself" on how programs work to point out the hypocrisy of our "war on drugs" . I see you're back to reading every other word and posting trash false narratives again.
Free crack pipes? What the actual F. I see the libtard left is finding more ways to keep down the poor and having them depend on handouts to guarantee votes.
Once again you and those like you have no idea this program has been in place for a very long time. You don't seem to realize that those who use this resource are far more likely to seek help for their addiction. For some of us that is the goal. Reducing drug addiction. This isn't something "the libtard left" just "found". But that's how those that follow Blubber Fett seem to be trying to present it.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
Yes. What one must understand is that the Harm Reduction Program began in the 1980's. This is nothing more than grant money for an existing program. It isn't something the Biden Administration created in any way. While it is true that what services the Harm Reduction act provides for has varied from state to state, depending on what a states guidelines allow, smoking kits have been one thing provided in some places for years.
They began handing them out in Seattle in 2015. They have also been handed out in San Fransisco for years.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
Between the let's give crack pipes crowd and the let's ban any book that mentions sex that could be read by a teen, there are a lot of folks with their head planted in their rectum.
Somewhere we need some grown ups.
There will be no playoffs. Can’t play with who we have out there and compounding it with garbage playcalling and worse execution. We don’t have good skill players on offense period. Browns 20 - Bears 17.
Between the let's give crack pipes crowd and the let's ban any book that mentions sex that could be read by a teen, there are a lot of folks with their head planted in their rectum.
Somewhere we need some grown ups.
I think the grown-ups ARE the problem.
We don't have to agree with each other, to respect each others opinion.
Yes. What one must understand is that the Harm Reduction Program began in the 1980's. This is nothing more than grant money for an existing program. It isn't something the Biden Administration created in any way. While it is true that what services the Harm Reduction act provides for has varied from state to state, depending on what a states guidelines allow, smoking kits have been one thing provided in some places for years.
They began handing them out in Seattle in 2015. They have also been handed out in San Fransisco for years.
It wasn't federal money funding those campaigns:
Seattle was "a privately funded needle-swap group run by drug users" where people picked up pipes from a church garage.
My point all along is that Biden didn't invent the "let's give them crack pipes" idea that so many wish to perpetuate. It was already a part of the program. The only thing the administration did was to fund the program. Overall it's a very good and positive program even though I'm not sold on the whole crack pipe thing.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
Anne Arundel stops distribution of crack pipes aimed at slowing overdoses in Annapolis after Black community backlash
By BROOKS DUBOSE CAPITAL GAZETTE | APR 08, 2021 AT 6:18 PM
Admitting they “hadn’t put enough thought” into handing out clean crack pipes to slow overdoses and disease spread among drug users in Annapolis, the Anne Arundel County Health Department responded to backlash in the Black community and said it would stop immediately.
The glass pipes were brought to the attention of community leaders by an Eastport Terrace resident, a recovering crack user who has been clean for 17 years, said Carl Snowden, a longtime civil rights activist and convener of the Caucus of African American Leaders.
Distributing pipes could have “unintended consequences” of tempting former drug users to relapse, said Snowden, who recommended the practice be stopped immediately.
Dr. Nilesh Kalyanaraman, county health officer, confirmed in an email to members of the Caucus on Wednesday that the pipes came from AA Power, a group affiliated with the Health Department that distributes supplies aimed at reducing the potential for harm among people suffering from substance use. It started distributing the glass pipes this week.
“Honestly, we didn’t put enough thought into the cultural implications of this,” Kalyanaraman said Thursday. “It was more focused technically on harm reduction, and we didn’t take the broader picture into as much consideration as we should have.
“That’s why we are pulling back on that piece of it. The community is in support of the other pieces of it, and we’re going to continue with those.”
The whole thing seems a little silly to me. Encouraging distribution because they "want users to have a clean pipe and it will help stem the spread of disease" -- their words, not mine -- seems pretty futile to me.
The pipe is only "clean" once. Unless you can convince me that users will read the fine print and promise not to share the pipe, the whole idea of "prevention" goes up in smoke.
And while I get the fact that providing clean needles, along with other services including a chance at intervention, is the humane thing to do (actually, the right thing to do since the opioid epidemic is out of control). Stuff like this removes focus from the real problem.. THE OPIOIDS. The fact that fentanyl is crossing borders at astronomical rates and not enough is being done to stop it.
And I know this is a different conversation, but it goes along with everything else we "politicize". We argue about all the peripheral issues and seemingly ignore the real problems.
Seattle has EIGHT places you can get free syringes in the downtown area alone...
I don't think the real issue is being ignored at all. The media has been giving huge attention to the skyrocketing Opioid use. It's been covered everywhere. The overwhelming amount of what this program does helps lead to counseling and rehab as has been shown.
I think you may wish to look around to see who it is using the funding of this program to take the emphasis off of the Opioid epidemic. You're right that a certain portion of our society is attempting to do so. But that's the choice they made.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
Well, media coverage is not going to stop the opioid crisis. As far as the programs, I'm not going to so they work or not, as far as your "big picture" statement. Not going to ask for receipts because they're very hard to find. But "overwhelming amount of what this program does helps lead to counseling and rehab as has been shown" seems like one hell of a stretch. Let's hope it's true, I'm a big proponent of personal responsibility but understand that all bets are off with addiction.
I'm not going back through all of the links I posted but there was information contained that gave the statistics of how much more likely those getting needles through this program were to seek treatment for their addiction. I could show you the billions upon billions we spend on the war on drugs every year and how despite that, we both know the opioid epidemic has spiraled out of control as that spending continues to skyrocket. Thus far it seems that strategy has been a failure of epic proportions.
I'm certainly not trying to say this will cure the opioid crisis. Obviously if it were a simple problem it would have been solved by now. What I am saying is we have seen all of these billions of dollars being spent every year on a strategy that has clearly been failing. In comparison this is a drop in the bucket of what we spend on the war on drugs and nations who focus more on getting people into rehab have been fairing much better than using the criminal avenue in dealing with it.
I think an investment in pursuing a different direction is worth it.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
It also helps cut communicable diseases spread by shared needle use. And it helps keep areas kids might play or people pass by from the dirty needles lying around. Just adding that.
Beyond the pharmaceutical malpractice that has kicked opioid use into high gear in every corner of the country, I think some of the same players are behind the flood of heroin on the streets. Can't get over our soldiers guarding those fields. Took some kind of power, money, or both to make that happen for almost 20 years.
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Your feelings and opinions do not add up to facts.
Free Crack Pipes. What a great Liberal idea. Just another idea that will cause you guys to lose your ass in Nov.
Poetic Justice? (I used to hear someone, whenever they were angry in an argument, they would immediately go to the line of "are you on crack?".) I think there may be a yet to be mentioned nefarious "unintended" consequence to the democrats handing out crac... (it's Too absurd to type).
Answer this? If a cop makes a traffic stop, A crack pipe on the front seat Is or Is NOT? still probable cause to search a vehicle????
So the democrats, distributing crack pipes? Is just like what some have tried to tell me years ago, that the FBI had been inserting drugs into (city) communities for years! ( I said nahh, come on? really?)... Well?? Now this. Did Joe Biden appoint Tyrone Bigums (Chappelles show) as secretary of the department of Rehab?
It also helps cut communicable diseases spread by shared needle use. And it helps keep areas kids might play or people pass by from the dirty needles lying around. Just adding that.
Beyond the pharmaceutical malpractice that has kicked opioid use into high gear in every corner of the country, I think some of the same players are behind the flood of heroin on the streets. Can't get over our soldiers guarding those fields. Took some kind of power, money, or both to make that happen for almost 20 years.
I don't understand the kids play area comment, and I am asking seriously, because I don't know.
Are they handing out needles but requiring them to use them right there then dispose of them properly?
We don't have to agree with each other, to respect each others opinion.
FWIW, I don’t think substituting a far right source with Tucker Carlson is exactly a move to objectivity.
Objectivity? Please explain what "reference" would be objective when the left media REFUSES TO REPORT.
If you've got a minute, go google "covid natural immunity". Stories from all over the world... and Fox... with headlines of our own CDC saying natural immunity offers better protection. Left media REFUSES TO REPORT. Does that mean it's not true?
You’re getting off topic. We can talk about that in the COVID thread, as you and I have had a good conversation there.
I don’t know what you consider the left media to be, but to infer that it’s valid to post a slanted view from a proven extremist (and we’ve all seen the court filing from Fox’s own attorneys regarding how seriously he should be taken) with the justification that the other extreme won’t talk about it is not justification.
I would say the same thing if someone used Rachel Maddow as a secondary source to something originally published in the New Yorker Slate.
Does Tucker sometimes point out truth, yes, but often in furtherance of a much more tangential slant and bias. I saw that he put in a reference to Soros again in the sound bite you posted. The whole point of my comment is that I wouldn’t rest my laurels on what Tucker Carlson says, especially without a heavy dose of skepticism. If you don’t think that’s true, well then I don’t know what to say.
Blue ostriches on crack float on milkshakes between the sidewalk titans of gurglefitz. --YTown
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