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The odds that he's in play for the Browns just got a lot higher over the past 24 hours.

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What a disaster.

Agree - all in for Willis, now.

Disagree, I think we would need to completely revamp our offense for Willis to succeed here and I don't think Stefanski would be willing to do it.

I would much rather go with a stop gap veteran for a year then draft our future in next year's draft which is going to have a lot of talent and depth than to force a pick at Qb that will likely fail.

JMO

Revamp - nah. He's athletic and can make plays off platform.

I think he could thrive in KS's offense. Just needs time to develop, IMO.

If I’m Willis I’m pulling an Eli manning if we draft him.

This can’t be correct. I don’t see the Punt God on here.

Just remember, some people are in a panic around here.

Why? And it helped to have the name Manning. I might not even want the guy, but he doesn't have any leverage to do that.

Willis plays like a less accurate, shorter Carson Wentz to me.

Yes, he can scramble and make some highlight plays. I'm not convinced he can consistently make the scripted play.

There’s not a qb in this draft that’s going to be a starter caliber I don’t think. Next year will be better

The QB situation this year just sucks. Sigh.

Disagree - Desmond Ridder has starter upside.

Still doesn't lessen our need for a vet. If Baker can't get beyond his temper tantrum, we still have a move to make in FA for a vet QB.

I believe Case Keenum will be the QB to start next year and they will draft a QB - Ridder, Willis, Pickett, Corral.

It's why he still is with the team - This is Plan C.

Plan A - Trade for Watson, jettison Baker.
Plan B - Appease Baker somehow after failed Plan A.
Plan C - Trade Baker, promote Keenum, draft a QB.

Unless there is a guy that KS particularly likes in this draft (I think our system is such that it lessens the need for a top-tier QB that can do it all), I think we wait a year to draft the guy we really want.

If Keenum is our starter week one then we should probably think about rooting for a different team.

If Watson goes to ATL, Ryan will get traded to Indy not Cleveland and I guarantee you that would be Ryan's preferred choice to play over Cleveland.

If Watson goes to NO, then Ryan will not be available. Mayfield could potentially be traded to Indy, but so could Jimmy G.

I see only 2 outs for Baker - Indy or Seattle and the former can only happen if Watson picks NO.

Unfortunately, I believe it can only be:

1. Jimmy G.
2. Case K.
3. Marcus M.
4. Rookie

I think Carolina could also be in play. I don't think their owner is willing to go into another season with Darnold or PJ Walker as his starting QB.

You keep saying that Indy is Ryan's preferred choice based on what? The dome? I'm sure it's a factor, but nit guaranteed. Also, Ryan does NOT have a no trade clause as people keep saying, so Atlanta can trade him wherever they want, though I assume they'd be somewhat respectful of his preference.

That's the first time I've ever heard it called that when a man treats someone else the way he's been treated. Maybe it's time we look at who created the situation instead of the one who treats them in kind. Nah, we can't do that, right?

It was a tantrum. That letter looked like something a 8th grader would write.

I have supported Baker since before he was drafted, but this last several months makes him look like a punk.

Baker hasn't shown enough to subvert the FO's MO of improving every position it can. I'm not going to get back into Watson's sex-creep-issues, as those have no bearing on Baker's response to the team looking to improve the QB position when possible. So him posting a goodbye letter before he's gone was out of the norm in terms of pro quarterbacks being replaced.

They preferred to send Baker onto the field last season in a body cast with crutches rather than play Keenum, so I find it hard to believe that going with Keenum is anything more than plan Z

Hell, in Atlanta Ryan reworked the contract to free up some money knowing Atlanta was going to be in the Watson hunt.

That is class. Not pitching a fit and stomping around.

His career is also darn near over. He might have a year or 2 left, but that's about it.

I don't know. Maybe a reason he might not have.

won't have to worry about drafting this guy now

Or anyone else in the first round.

This year or next.

Or the year after that either.

good, cause they'll be in the high 20's anyway. screw those picks

Don’t think we’ll be drafting a QB this year

Do you think Watson would lose his marbles if we did? lmao

He'll be too busy counting his money to buy a gazillion marbles.

I wouldn't say screw those picks, but I am not all that worried about it.

Watson is this years 1st rounder, we just picked a month early.

After that, it is 2 1st rounder as the premium. We also lose one of our 2 third rounders next year. It would be nice to have, but we aren't down beyond normal. In the 3rd year we lose the 1st, not meaningless, but the improvement at QB should mitigate that, and we swap our 4th for a 5th...no big deal there.

Yes we lose a few prime picks, but we also pick up a prime QB. We know we have that. We don't have to hope our QB is good enough.

Yet it turned out Baker was 100% correct.

On the other hand, we just traded for QB who actually threw a tantrum and refused to play because he wasn't allowed to hand pick his HC and you haven't uttered a peep about it.

You're hilarious.