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The odds that he's in play for the Browns just got a lot higher over the past 24 hours.
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The odds that he's in play for the Browns just got a lot higher over the past 2 hours. FIFY What a disaster.
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Agree - all in for Willis, now.
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Disagree, I think we would need to completely revamp our offense for Willis to succeed here and I don't think Stefanski would be willing to do it.
I would much rather go with a stop gap veteran for a year then draft our future in next year's draft which is going to have a lot of talent and depth than to force a pick at Qb that will likely fail.
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Revamp - nah. He's athletic and can make plays off platform.
I think he could thrive in KS's offense. Just needs time to develop, IMO.
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If I’m Willis I’m pulling an Eli manning if we draft him.
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This can’t be correct. I don’t see the Punt God on here.
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Willis is not going number one to any team.
He is not ready to be a starting quarterback in the NFL.
If we drafted him we better have Matt Ryan already on the team.
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Just remember, some people are in a panic around here.
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If I’m Willis I’m pulling an Eli manning if we draft him. Why? And it helped to have the name Manning. I might not even want the guy, but he doesn't have any leverage to do that.
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Willis plays like a less accurate, shorter Carson Wentz to me.
Yes, he can scramble and make some highlight plays. I'm not convinced he can consistently make the scripted play.
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There’s not a qb in this draft that’s going to be a starter caliber I don’t think. Next year will be better
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The QB situation this year just sucks. Sigh.
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Disagree - Desmond Ridder has starter upside.
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I have been saying since I watched his tape that Ridder is a good prospect.
I don' think rookies are in most cases ready to start. Ridder will still need time to figure the NFL out.
However, he was doing more as a quarterback than Willis was at Liberty. He was a senior with 44 wins.
He played from the pocket. He is very athletic. Combine numbers proved that. He is also a mature leader.
He is mobile but keeps his eyes downfield. He has a good arm. He plays smart.
I like him better than all the rest in this class. However, I recognize the upside of Willis.
I would play the draft game. And maybe come back late in the first or be prepared to move up in the second for Ridder.
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Still doesn't lessen our need for a vet. If Baker can't get beyond his temper tantrum, we still have a move to make in FA for a vet QB.
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I believe Case Keenum will be the QB to start next year and they will draft a QB - Ridder, Willis, Pickett, Corral.
It's why he still is with the team - This is Plan C.
Plan A - Trade for Watson, jettison Baker. Plan B - Appease Baker somehow after failed Plan A. Plan C - Trade Baker, promote Keenum, draft a QB.
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Matt Ryan would be a good bridge. They could sign him with a two year deal. He would be fine in this system.
Then they could draft a qb this year or next and get him ready to replace Ryan.
IMO that is the best solution to what could be available if Watson goes to Atlanta.
I believe we could then trade Baker for a second or third. Ryan we could get for a second and maybe a player.
If Watson goes to the Saints. Jameis and Jimmy G are less desirable options.
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Unless there is a guy that KS particularly likes in this draft (I think our system is such that it lessens the need for a top-tier QB that can do it all), I think we wait a year to draft the guy we really want.
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If Keenum is our starter week one then we should probably think about rooting for a different team.
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If Watson goes to ATL, Ryan will get traded to Indy not Cleveland and I guarantee you that would be Ryan's preferred choice to play over Cleveland.
If Watson goes to NO, then Ryan will not be available. Mayfield could potentially be traded to Indy, but so could Jimmy G.
I see only 2 outs for Baker - Indy or Seattle and the former can only happen if Watson picks NO.
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Unfortunately, I believe it can only be:
1. Jimmy G. 2. Case K. 3. Marcus M. 4. Rookie
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If Watson goes to ATL, Ryan will get traded to Indy not Cleveland and I guarantee you that would be Ryan's preferred choice to play over Cleveland.
If Watson goes to NO, then Ryan will not be available. Mayfield could potentially be traded to Indy, but so could Jimmy G.
I see only 2 outs for Baker - Indy or Seattle and the former can only happen if Watson picks NO. I think Carolina could also be in play. I don't think their owner is willing to go into another season with Darnold or PJ Walker as his starting QB.
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If Watson goes to ATL, Ryan will get traded to Indy not Cleveland and I guarantee you that would be Ryan's preferred choice to play over Cleveland.
If Watson goes to NO, then Ryan will not be available. Mayfield could potentially be traded to Indy, but so could Jimmy G.
I see only 2 outs for Baker - Indy or Seattle and the former can only happen if Watson picks NO. You keep saying that Indy is Ryan's preferred choice based on what? The dome? I'm sure it's a factor, but nit guaranteed. Also, Ryan does NOT have a no trade clause as people keep saying, so Atlanta can trade him wherever they want, though I assume they'd be somewhat respectful of his preference.
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Ryan has a no trade clause. However, we have a good place for him to land. He knows the system. We have a good OL and running backs. We just signed Cooper. We will add more receivers. We have a good defense. He has two years to win a Super Bowl and the Browns might be his best bet.
So that is up to the Falcons and Ryan and what they feel is the best deal.
Seattle could inquire and make an offer.
SF will trade Jimmy G. He is an option.
Jameis is a free agent so he controls his situation.
If Watson goes to Atlanta. I would secure Ryan and trade Baker for the best deal I can make.
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If Baker can't get beyond his temper tantrum That's the first time I've ever heard it called that when a man treats someone else the way he's been treated. Maybe it's time we look at who created the situation instead of the one who treats them in kind. Nah, we can't do that, right?
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It was a tantrum. That letter looked like something a 8th grader would write.
I have supported Baker since before he was drafted, but this last several months makes him look like a punk.
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Baker hasn't shown enough to subvert the FO's MO of improving every position it can. I'm not going to get back into Watson's sex-creep-issues, as those have no bearing on Baker's response to the team looking to improve the QB position when possible. So him posting a goodbye letter before he's gone was out of the norm in terms of pro quarterbacks being replaced.
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I believe Case Keenum will be the QB to start next year and they will draft a QB - Ridder, Willis, Pickett, Corral.
It's why he still is with the team - This is Plan C.
Plan A - Trade for Watson, jettison Baker. Plan B - Appease Baker somehow after failed Plan A. Plan C - Trade Baker, promote Keenum, draft a QB. They preferred to send Baker onto the field last season in a body cast with crutches rather than play Keenum, so I find it hard to believe that going with Keenum is anything more than plan Z
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Baker hasn't shown enough to subvert the FO's MO of improving every position it can. I'm not going to get back into Watson's sex-creep-issues, as those have no bearing on Baker's response to the team looking to improve the QB position when possible. So him posting a goodbye letter before he's gone was out of the norm in terms of pro quarterbacks being replaced. Hell, in Atlanta Ryan reworked the contract to free up some money knowing Atlanta was going to be in the Watson hunt. That is class. Not pitching a fit and stomping around.
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Baker hasn't shown enough to subvert the FO's MO of improving every position it can. I'm not going to get back into Watson's sex-creep-issues, as those have no bearing on Baker's response to the team looking to improve the QB position when possible. So him posting a goodbye letter before he's gone was out of the norm in terms of pro quarterbacks being replaced. Hell, in Atlanta Ryan reworked the contract to free up some money knowing Atlanta was going to be in the Watson hunt. That is class. Not pitching a fit and stomping around. His career is also darn near over. He might have a year or 2 left, but that's about it.
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
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I don't know. Maybe a reason he might not have.
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won't have to worry about drafting this guy now
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won't have to worry about drafting this guy now Or anyone else in the first round. This year or next. Or the year after that either.
The more things change the more they stay the same.
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won't have to worry about drafting this guy now Or anyone else in the first round. This year or next. Or the year after that either. good, cause they'll be in the high 20's anyway. screw those picks
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Don’t think we’ll be drafting a QB this year
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Don’t think we’ll be drafting a QB this year Do you think Watson would lose his marbles if we did? lmao
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Don’t think we’ll be drafting a QB this year Do you think Watson would lose his marbles if we did? lmao He'll be too busy counting his money to buy a gazillion marbles.
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won't have to worry about drafting this guy now Or anyone else in the first round. This year or next. Or the year after that either. good, cause they'll be in the high 20's anyway. screw those picks I wouldn't say screw those picks, but I am not all that worried about it. Watson is this years 1st rounder, we just picked a month early. After that, it is 2 1st rounder as the premium. We also lose one of our 2 third rounders next year. It would be nice to have, but we aren't down beyond normal. In the 3rd year we lose the 1st, not meaningless, but the improvement at QB should mitigate that, and we swap our 4th for a 5th...no big deal there. Yes we lose a few prime picks, but we also pick up a prime QB. We know we have that. We don't have to hope our QB is good enough.
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It was a tantrum. That letter looked like something a 8th grader would write.
I have supported Baker since before he was drafted, but this last several months makes him look like a punk. Yet it turned out Baker was 100% correct. On the other hand, we just traded for QB who actually threw a tantrum and refused to play because he wasn't allowed to hand pick his HC and you haven't uttered a peep about it. You're hilarious.
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