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This is why we aren’t trading Kareem Hunt. And also why drafting a running back high the in the draft is just about the worst decision a team can make.

j/c

I don't have a link...but my memory is such that I've read a lot on the interwebs that our FO really likes Hubbard and he loves being here.

MJ Stewart really won me over as the year progressed. Kudos to whoever suggested moving him to Safety.

Reminder, Andy Isabella is basically the fastest receiver in the league.

https://www.mockdraftable.com/player/andy-isabella

Which only reinforces that speed isn't as big of a factor in WR's as some make it out to be.

Agreed. But Isabella is worth throwing a late round conditional pick at (which is what it will take).

Hudson would have to make a BIG leap ..

To be a backup? Not really.

I would say we should just agree to disagree.

j/c If we're looking for a fast former bust WR, I'd rather just try to sign John Ross and not have to worry about the trade compensation. But I'm not really looking for a fast bust.

I want more of a sure-handed technician that's not afraid to go over the middle, though with as much size and speed/quicks as possible going with that. I'm fine seeing what Schwartz can do in the field stretching role.

Not a bust, but sign me up for Isaiah McKenzie from Buffalo for that role.

Former busts?

I'll take Laquon Treadwell, he's a FA.

That way I can avenge my choice of Corey Coleman, eight picks earlier.

He had one of his worst seasons under Stefanski in Minnesota, so he should fit right in.

Damn.

Are all fourth string linebackers this much drama or just Mack Wilson?

Nobody hypes and loves Mack Wilson like Mack Wilson.

I'm going to miss Twitter Mack Wilson.

I couldn't be more happy that we are moving on from Mack Wilson. He is a bottom of NFL roster type player.

Happy isn't the right word. I ended up rooting for Mack Wilson. That time a TE trucked Ward, Wilson came in there blew him up and gave him a talking to. We don't have enough of that on our team, IMO.

But to your point... yes, it's past due we acquire players that push Mack off the roster.

Andy Isabella is a name I would be intrigued with. He’s kinda been forgotten about there

Exactly - and another 4th round pick who flashed once in a while but never did anything much.

I was listening to the Browns propaganda radio show on WKNR and state sponsor Zegura has all but guaranteed a deal will be worked out to sign Njoku.

So true....so true.

Sounds great, but the one thing we have to ask ourselves is whether he'll "take" to our O. Our scheme is not exactly designed to feed massive targets to WRs.

I would rather have Njoku than Landry too. I think Hooper will be gone as well if possible

I'm really curious how they handle Hooper. You can make the argument that Hooper's last season was more disappointing than Landry's (I do when you take injuries into consideration). I don't think Berry and co. subscribe to the "my guy vs previous regime's guy", but Hooper (IIRC) was their first big-name FA signing. But I think it comes down to finances, and the money is such that not a whole lot is saved by cutting Hooper (the opposite situation as Landry). If we do hang onto Hooper and re-sign Njoku, I would hope that their respective # of targets flip-flops.

Their targets and catches were pretty close. Not sure that would change much, the philosophy seems to be keeping the legs fresh and letting the defense pick their poison when they're both on the field.

I get the reasoning for cutting Hooper and I've said many times he has underperformed his contract. But, I don't know how high up Hooper is on the chopping block just yet. I mean, we are going into the season currently with the following WR/ TE group assumptions (or at least I am):

1. Landry will be cut
2. Higgins will be a FA and leave
3. Njoku re-signs.


Not counting Hooper at the moment, our top options will be Njoku, DPJ, Schwartz. I think more and more people assumed that Hooper would be cut due to his contract and that was then amplified with the Njoku extension news. First, regarding his contract, whether you cut/trade him post-June or in the 2023 offseason, the dead cap will be the same in 2023 ($7.5MM). You get rid of him prior to June, you're only saving $2M this year (kinda like the OBJ situation last year). Why not just keep him in an offense that plays heavy the TE position? The contract is not favorable considering his performance, unfortunately, not matter how you slice it.

Now, if the team gets a free agent WR they like and draft another relatively high in the draft, maybe that changes the situation. Especially if the overall FA moves and extensions are more 2023 cap heavy and the FO would prefer to have his deal off the books in 2023.

If I had to guess right now.....I think they keep Hooper in 2022. Another option.....they restructure his deal to essentially make 2022 his last one in Cleveland.

They spelled his name wrong.

Fine.....as backup.

Or a coach.

Ballsack Sports getting people too much these days.

What it says: "Sendejo helped lead the team to the playoffs in 2020"

What it should say: "Despite Sendejo the team still made it to the playoffs in 2020"

j/c:

Mack Wilson is somewhat of an "old school type " of NFL LB, especially when compared to the Browns present day LB standards .

When was the last time the Browns coaching staff took LBer talent and developed them into an elite LBer...?

If the Browns front office lets Wilson walk watch for the Ravens or Stoolers to pick him up and develop him into an outstanding LBer.

I'm totally fine with PIT or BAL signing Wilson. In fact, I encourage it.

Let him start even!

What a difference a young, cheap Ceedee Lamb makes, eh?

Yep. Plus potentially having Cedrick Wilson there too round out their WR corp. The Zeke contract doesn't help Cooper's situation either. Add in the possibility of keeping Schultz at TE, Cooper had been the odd man out for awhile, IMO, because of his deal.