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According to Gerry Dulac, not Shaun King.

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He'd be good depth if we picked him up cheap.


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Therapist replaced by Thepredator??


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So now you have to ask yourself, is losing Clowney thus creating a huge hole to fill the right move or was the money better spent with the franchise tag Berry's slated to spend on part-time TE Njoku the better move. Last year, the Browns paid 6.013M to Njoku on his 5th year option for 36 receptions and 475 yards. If you look deeper and deduct the 7 catch 149 yd explosion against the LAC, the Browns paid $353,706 per game for an average of 1.81 receptions and 20.38 receiving yards. Since this was the best year Njoku has had in the last 3-years, the Browns are basically giving Njoku (under the franchise tag of 10.931M) an 81.7% raise for 1.81 catches per game. Even if Njoku increses his cath production by 100%, the Browns will be paying 10.931M for 3.62 receptions per game.

Clowney signed a 1-year deal worth 8M guaranteed. Berry spread out the guaranteed money over 5-years so the Browns will now have 3.6M in dead cap since it all comes due if and when Clowney leaves. This fan does not know what Clowney is asking for but a 3-year deal for 36M plus what he's already owed would have probably got it done. If Berry had taken the 10.931M he's slated to pay Njoku and moved it to Clowney, Clowney is a relatively cheap resign considering he played 61% of the snaps and had 9 QB sacks.

So now what is the more difficult position for the Browns to fill - DE on a defense with no starting DT's at the moment that must have a pass rush to be successful or a TE who wasn't on the field for even 50% of the teams pass plays in 2021, 2020, or 2019.


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So now you have to ask yourself will we ever sign another player?

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First off... jeez, Cowboys....


He'll get traded for way more than we'd want to give up. It'd be overkill to compensate for one of our starting tackles possibly being out for first part of the season.


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That Zeke contract looks worse and worse by the minute.


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I'm confused....so why aren't we able to sign a DE or DL?

Because we spent money on another position? Are we broke?


Or what I really think u are trying to insinuate from your previous posts: Kevin Stefanski's offensive playbook will keep us from signing defensive lineman, b/c their targets will be down too.

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That's a high profile trade. Hasn't he been injured the past couple of years? Or just this last season?


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I should have looked that up myself. Thanks.


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I thought he would retire.


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I thought he would retire.

No thanks.


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I thought he would retire.

I'd give him a tryout. He was a force in 2020 before the injury.

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You guys can be such kids sometimes. You know that the post was in reference to spending the money wisely. However, at the end of the day, it might come down to signing just that one more guy whether it's a DE, DL, WR or OL but the Browns will be unable too because they already used up the amount they want to spend including 10.931M on a part time TE that has averaged 30 receptions per year over the last 5 years - not to mention the fact that the guy has performed poorer than Hooper each of the past 2-years. Njoku had one good game in 2021 and was paid over 6M for one good game and to be on the field less than 50% of the time a pass play was run. Then Berry gives the dude an 87% wage increase. That is not using the cap money wisely.


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We should be able to get him on the cheap. He'd be a good replacement for Takk, not so much for Clowney.


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Tendering Johnson always made the most sense.

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Originally Posted by Milk Man
Tendering Johnson always made the most sense.

Someone is going swoop on him with no compensation attached.

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Tendering Johnson always made the most sense.

Someone is going swoop on him with no compensation attached.

I agree.

A 2nd round tender would have paid him a little over $3 Million - and to be honest, I doubt anyone takes him due to the compensation. Probably too steep $$ for the Browns with Hunt and Chubb here.
Because he went undrafted we don't have original round tender option.

I guess I see where we landed on this - but it feels wrong to be letting that talent walk, which is probably what will happen.

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Tendering Johnson always made the most sense.

Someone is going swoop on him with no compensation attached.

Agreed. Unless its such a great value that the Browns can't pass up, they'll let him walk.


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The big name to watch here is Amari Cooper.

ESPN’s Adam Schefter recently reported the Dallas Cowboys are “likely” to release Cooper, whose $20 million base salary becomes guaranteed on the fifth day of the league year, March 20. The Cowboys, however, will be looking to trade Cooper before then, which gives Cleveland the opportunity for a preemptive strike. ESPN Cowboys reporter Todd Archer suggested a midround draft pick might get a deal done.

If the Browns don’t trade for Cooper before he’s released, look for them to be a player to sign him. Cooper, 27, is a proven No. 1 wideout, something the Browns desperately need to add to their offense in the wake of the Odell Beckham Jr. debacle.
https://twitter.com/Jake_Trotter/status/1502257926047776775

I wonder if Trotter is saying this because he knows something or is he just making a guess based on team need?


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The big name to watch here is Amari Cooper.

ESPN’s Adam Schefter recently reported the Dallas Cowboys are “likely” to release Cooper, whose $20 million base salary becomes guaranteed on the fifth day of the league year, March 20. The Cowboys, however, will be looking to trade Cooper before then, which gives Cleveland the opportunity for a preemptive strike. ESPN Cowboys reporter Todd Archer suggested a midround draft pick might get a deal done.

If the Browns don’t trade for Cooper before he’s released, look for them to be a player to sign him. Cooper, 27, is a proven No. 1 wideout, something the Browns desperately need to add to their offense in the wake of the Odell Beckham Jr. debacle.
https://twitter.com/Jake_Trotter/status/1502257926047776775

I wonder if Trotter is saying this because he knows something or is he just making a guess based on team need?

It seems like more of a guess than anything.

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Because he was undrafted a 2nd round tender has an effect on other tenders and compensation they bring. This may have played into the ROFR tender.

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He'll be on the move now.



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Maybe Shaun King was right!

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Originally Posted by MemphisBrownie
He'll be on the move now.


Wow. I thought he was done.


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If Jordan Schultz is reporting it, it definitely isn't happening. Bummer. tongue

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Sign me up for Watson

If Watson really ends up in Pittsburgh I'm going to projectile vomit.

Get on the horn, Berry!

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