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This probably deserves its own thread.

Not a chance they outbid the Panthers

Watson has a no trade clause.

Which is exactly why he won't come to the Browns. They have no quality WR's and they have a coach that runs a run first scheme. Watson is used to throwing for over 4,000 yards per season, Stefanski would have a stroke before he allowed his QB throw for 4,000 to 5,000 yards. That in itself will prevent Watson from coming to the Browns. Money is not an object since he's under contract for 4 more years so it is going to boil down to ability to win and the team and weapons to show off his skill set.

I believe he still has around 22 accusers out there waiting to be heard. I have a hard time believing all of them are making up their claims. I didn't want Big Ben anywhere near this team with his record with women. No way I want Watson. It's a shame because he is talented.

I would say we have the second our third best situation of the teams mentioned above. Pittsburgh being first with New Orleans being second or third.

If Watson is choosing, I would suspect his choice would be Tampa Bay. A throw first coach with one of the top receiving groups in football and a proven winner.

I'll be surprised if we end up trading for him... I think you have to explore it because he'd be an obvious upgrade.... I also think Stefanski would open up the throwing game with Watson... bu I'd be surprised if we actually would get him

Jaybird, I believe you are down in Houston. What are your opinions of Watson? Is there a chance he isn't guilty of what he has been accused of?

jc

This guy has a ton of civil suits coming up. We dont need the distraction. He shouldnt even be considered.

Man it's tough... I feel like there has to be something there... that much smoke... many of his fans think he's getting hosed and that the timing is interesting. I don't think there were any accusers until he asked for a trade... but I personally think there's something creepy about it... wouldn't be surprised if he was inappropriate with them, but guess wasn't enough evidence to actually get convicted.

The interesting thing is now they think he'll actually testify in his civil case... he's been pleading the fifth until his criminal case was cleared up....

I'm on the fence... while I agree with you that I don't like the distraction.... the dude is a baller... amazing athlete and leader on the field...

would do everything in my power to sign this guy. He is a very good player. He is way better than Baker on every level. Those saying he wouldn't come here are off, IMO, it is a great situation for an atheletic QB. Great oline, fantastic running game. Sign Amari Cooper and Watson, and this offense will be happening.

He is a good player. He has also won one playoff game. I don't want him. Ride with 6.

Watson is a top five QB who has always had a terrible offensive line.

If the Saints are in they are up there with us as the best option (assuming the above Tweet is true).

Our offensive line and running backs have to be attractive to Watson. With Watson on the team we would also be able to score some wide receivers in free agency.

Please no.

If this happens, I’m not watching another game till he’s gone.

If we’re gonna rally against Ben getting away with rape twice, then how can we justify having Watson as our QB?

This is gross.

I am seriously conflicted with the morality of potentially trading for Watson. In the end I don’t know what I actually want. I just know that legally Watson is off the hook and he is a huge upgrade on the field. If you don’t get him a competitor will. It feels dirty. Most thing about the NFL are dirty.

The virtual signaling and hypocrisy is hilarious. So if the Browns trade for Watson you'll stop watching but you have been all this time for a team that erected a statue of Jim Brown outside of the stadium?

I don't think of it as virtue signaling to believe that there has to be a line somewhere that we as fans are unwilling to cross to have a winning team. Speaking only for myself, I am going to have a very difficult time maintaining my allegiance to the Browns if they get Watson, and I really hope they don't put me in that position.

I understand why people will have a problem w/ Watson and I have an issue with it as well. But if one wants to claim the moral high ground now in regards to this particular situation while the team has recently made a legacy out of another player with similar issues (arguably worse), that is very inconsistent to put it mildly.

Thus the virtual signaling and hypocrisy.

I think Watson agrees to a trade to cleveland if agreed upon.

Best O line he will ever have. Best run game he will ever have. Best group of TEs, and best coach. We can still get a good WR on the market.

If you are talking about Jim Brown, the truth is his off field issues were barely reported on until he was 20+ years retired. As a youngster, I recall one story of a domestic dispute involving Jim Brown and a young woman who did not press charges. It was a vastly different era when sports writers were more like cheerleaders than they were journalists. As far as the statue goes, that was a team decision, largely informed by Brown's leadership in community outreach issues as well as his on field excellence. He had, to an extent, made amends for his transgressions.

We just embraced a guy who was on video beating a woman.

If Kareem hunt can get a second chance, then I don’t see what the problem is with a guy who isn’t facing any criminal charges and has no video evidence against him.

We got a QB on video running from the cops. A running back on video beating a woman.

But somehow the line got draw at a dude facing no criminal charges dealing with creepy behavior on some ‘he said/she said’ nonsense.

Make it make sense.

Oh yea, and Malik McDowell.

Keep it pure football, Bone.

Who’s the better QB? And who will fit better in Stefanski’s system?

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Just in case you haven't heard:

Deshaun Watson will NOT be criminally charged over allegations he forcibly touched massage therapists and forced them to perform oral sex on him: Quarterback, 26, still faces 22 civil lawsuits and sat out entire 2021 season

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...haun-Watson-sex-assault-allegations.html

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Lolz.

Dialectical thinking is a skill I’ve been working on for a few months, Memphis. I’ve been on record multiple times that I would prefer the statue out in front of the stadium to be melted.

If you want to talk about Kareem, I understand where you’re coming from. It’s something I’ve continually wrestled with. At the same time, I view it much like the Myles Garrett situation. As a white guy, I truly have no idea what it’s like to be called the slur either of them was called. Is it cool he threw the woman into the door jam? No, not at all. However, given whatever Kareem and Myles have faced in their life, I try to do the Atticus Finch thing and try to put myself in their shoes to understand their reaction and perspective.

Kareem had a troubled past, but he’s seemed to embrace this second chance, and looks like he’s trying to atone for all he has done. Same with Myles.

Watson has yet to show any of this remorse or desire to atone.

Call this whatever you want, but I know I can’t justify rooting for Watson. No way I can explain to my son in the future, or other future children I may have, why their father rooted for a sexual predator.

Life is more than a fandom. Life is trying to make the world a better place one day at a time.

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As it's written, I feel like the first sentence negates everything else that follows. But I get what he is trying to say, it just was worded poorly, IMO.

Showing remorse or a desire to atone means you're admitting guilt. He's claiming innocence. Double jeopardy does not apply to grand jury findings, so it's possible for charges to be brought in the future. Doing what you prescribe would be the additional evidence required to bring this to a trial.

j/c...

I would guess we can get a second round pick for Baker based on what Washington gave up for Wentz.

I heard all the way back in October from a family friend (who’s connected with the team) to watch for us getting Watson. Didn’t think much of it then. Think more of it now.

Hmm.

I assumed Baker would be included in any deal w/ Houston but it certainly doesn't have to be case.

I think they like Davis Mills.