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Marcus Mariota is the perfect backup to Baker and/or a rookie QB. He can come in and be around a league average starter.

I think he is a downgrade below Keenum. On the Thread title I was about to express he is becoming a career backup if not that he always should have been. He didn't do well, where, Oakland? Miami? wherever he was before, and I don't expect he would do well in the NFL anytime in the Future. I never thought he was very good, and I still don't think so. He has no upside.

He peaked as a rookie. No?

He’ll fit right in with Baker.

BURN!

he's still in the league?

my guess is Seattle will sign him as a stop-gap with Lock

The problem with him becoming Tannehill is that he was replaced by Tannehill because he couldn’t run the offense we currently run successfully.

I'm not convinced he'd actually be an upgrade over Keenum.

Do we know what we're looking for in a 2nd QB? If we're looking for a capable backup, then I hope we look to restructure Keenum. The guy is solid if unspectacular, and knows the O. If we're looking for competition for Baker, then looking at the FA scrapheap for former busts seems kinda silly. Legit competition for Mayfield would have to come in the form of a trade or possibly a draft pick... both of which would require using significant resources (ones that we need to improve other positions, which we need to do regardless of who is under center).

I would assume we are looking for someone who can actually play if Baker craps the bed and/or is hurt. Keenum is obviously not that person.

Well...Keenum was 2-0 last year. Is Mullins better? Or just cheaper?

Mariotta is no better than Keenum OR Mullins and as a potential starter is an absolute joke.

We were 2-0 in spite of Keenum not because of him. Mullins was terrible. Mariota can at least throw downfield and use his legs to make a play. He’s not great. He’s probably not even above average. He’s much better than Keenum and/or Mullins.

He isn't? But Marriota is? I honestly don't see how both can be true.

Mariota’s upside is much greater than Keenum’s upside.

j/c

Remember when we had Vince Yong on the Browns?
He was on the cover of Madden
He was the 3rd pick in the draft
He was selected to 2 pro-bowls

Mariota is basically Vince Young

Vince Young was basically out of the league for two years when we signed him. Is that the Vince Young you are talking about or are you talking about the Vince Young that was a competent player for several years?

I am not taking about signing Mariota to be the starter.

I'm more curious about what exactly we're trying to do with the QB room (competent backup that 99% likely won't start, or someone that will actually provide competition to Mayfield). Watch us agonize over this and then not even move on from Keenum... :-p

I think if Keenum is willing to take a reduced contract he’ll be back.

I don’t think Baker necessarily needs competition. He should be the starter in this scenario. But there is a non zero chance Baker completely flops. If that happens I would like to have a competent player ready to play behind him instead of Case Keenum.

I think the contract numbers dictate Keenum will be replaced.

I agree. I also think if Keenum is willing to take much less, as I suggested above, then he could be back.

What convinced you of that?

Case Keenum playing football.

He’s better than Keenum. And adds a small wrinkle to a goal line type package. Not sure he’d want to be traded here though

Mariota is a free agent.

Got it thanks

I guess that depends on what you hope to have at the backup QB position. I witnessed an injured Baker who could barely complete 50% of his passes in a stretches of games. And still they didn't think Keenum could perform better than that. When you have a backup that you feel is only good enough to play when your QB can't even walk on the field, you have a problem. I would hope their objective is to have a QB who they trust a little more than that in times like those.

I would love Mariota here, as others have noted he adds another element to the O. He would do well in the PA and rollouts that our scheme favors. His biggest issues have been injuries and pocket presence (Then again seems like both Baker and Keenum lack pocket presence as well) His body has been relatively fresh as he was backing up Carr for a bit, but I remember he had a monster run at the beginning of last year, and ended up hurt. But I do think he is the deal QB to push Baker, without having to surrender draft pick(s)

Mariota was in, basically, our exact offense with the Titans and got benched.

Mariota is nothing more than a backup just like Mayfield.

Mariota's weapons his first 3 years...Rishard Matthews, Trajae Sharpe, 32 year old Harry Douglas, Dorial Green Beckham, Justin Hunter, Taywan Taylor, Tre Mcbride, Marc Mariani, He did have a 31 year old Delalnie Walker at TE as a rookie...For Mariota to throw for 6,244 yards with 45TD/19int and run for another 600 yards & 4 TDs in ohis first 2 years, was pretty darn good considering the lack of talent there...But I won't lie he started slipping some after his first 2 years, especially once his #1 target (Delanie Walker) went down injury riddled and combined for 200 Yards in his last two seasons there, before retiring. I think Mariota can do no worse than Baker here imo...providing he stays healthy.

Maybe, but he's not a super TACKLER like Baker.....AND he'd be way cheaper. Go Browns!!!