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Not a fan of the move but I understand it.

Gotta create cap space for Watson.

This frees up what? $8 Million?

I kind of had a strong haunch last year (When we resigned Bitonio and Teller) that this was Tretters last year with us.

Yep. $8.2M.

Paging Case Keenum. Paging Case Keenum. Please bring your playbook and report to Andrew Berry's office.

I expect he'll find a job in relatively short order.

I don't know. They might want him to help teach Watson the offense, and/or fill in during the possible suspension.

Lol...I was wondering why Keenum and his contract are still both on our books. Also hoping we can rework John Johnson, Hooper, and possibly Coopers numbers...as it seems like the new norm.

Steelers shoring up their Oline with that James Daniels signing...and not a bad contract at all.

Is anyone comfortable with Harris at center? That has to be the move, correct?

j/c...

I'm not, while I like the guy I just don't know if he's ready. He's only taken 211 Oline snaps in 2 years and those snaps came in 3 games, in 2020 he filled in at RG for 2 games and struggled, last year he filled in 1 game at OC and played pretty good.

On the positive side, Tretter didn't practice much, so Harris got lots of work with Callahan.

Drafting and developing to replace expensive, aging veterans is what teams that stay good do.

Here's hoping we've done that developing.

moves like this just don't make sense to me... releasing a very good center making 8 million and franchise a guy who is the very definition of meh. not good. Oh hey deshaun, we got you a center thats barely played center at this level...welcome. We are in a bad cap situation

Yeah, got to trust Berry, KS and the coaching staff. I just wish he had a few more game snaps at Center.

Sure. Keep a teacher they don't trust to play. For a QB that has very little chance of ever coming here in the first place.

Watson might be a creep off the field but everyone says he is a grinder. First one in, last one out type of guy. I don’t think him picking up any offense would be a problem.

Yep. That's what she said and she said and she said, etc, etc, etc...........

But, yet not enough evidence to charge!!!

I'm not worried about him picking it up. I'd prefer he get up to speed as quickly as possible, though, so everyone else on O isn't "held up," if that's the direction they go.
Coaches are only allowed so much interaction with players during the off-season. Players can spend as much time with each other as they want.

We could still end up cutting him. I think he has some guarantees kick in on the 19th. Still have a few days before they need to make a decision.

Getting Watson could make them lean toward keeping him.

Baker probably doesn't need help picking up things here and doesn't have a possible suspension looming, so if no Watson, Keenum could be gone.

No need to do anything this instant.

The good thing about Watson is that he works with Quincy Avery in the off-season so he would be able to work on the offense then.

Even if he fails ... we have a guy named Blake!

And Michael Dunn. I trust Bill Callahan.

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Yes... Callahan is certainly worth trusting. I hope and believe no OL decision is made without 100% buy in from BC.

We’ve planned to release Tretter this offseason for the last two years. The drafting of Harris kinda showed that. Harris was serviceable the last few games we saw. Still don’t love losing Tretter.

The Pats bread and butter is to trade good players just past their peak. Oh wait, we didn't get anything.

There goes the leader of the Union...

j/c...

gotta wonder how many FA's are waiting to see where Watson lands.

A difference maker in himself and a hell of a mentor for JOK.

j/c:

Not a Prisco fan, generally, but here is his take.

Well, the board wanted hooper gone so

Njoku/Bryant are sufficient. Hooper never was worth it here.

If this rumor is true, you have to wonder what the he!! the Browns are doing when they are going to release a guy that's going to cost them 11.250M for a player not to be on the team. I was unaware that the Browns are so flush with cap money. To date - 2022 dead cap $6,464,721 before they add in Hooper's dead cap for 2022 alone. That's $10,214,721 dead cap in 2022 and counting while 2023 is off to a rip roaring start with 7.5M as a beginning dead cap debt.

Hooper's Post 6/1 cap hit
2022 - Avoid paying him his $9.5M in base salary; total $3.75M cap hit
2023 - Avoid paying him his $9.5M in base salary; total $7.5M cap hit

I'm curious about the timing. I don't think we are losing a ton by shipping him. Just a bummer we are flushing so much money down the toilet in doing so.

I think (guessing) that it is about allowing him to get a new contract now, today, when FA is beginning instead of holding onto him until June 1st because of some technicality. The league/NFLPA allows us to let him go and sign a new contract now, but it doesn't count for accounting purposes until after June 1. It's good for the players.