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The twice fired GM that is now an advisor for the lowly Detroit Lions? Yikes!

That hired Freddie Kitchens because of a penis swinging contest.

I never called the FO stooges. The pic is fitting.

Enjoy your victory lap... and to be clear, I mean that both as a dig and also as acknowledgement that you were right.

"It's a Marketing world"

-our owner

Seeing the message board this wildly triggered and calling the FO a mess after one day only furthers my confidence that they know what they are going.

Out of interest - what do you think the plan is at this point. Who do you think will be the QB on opening day of the season?

Well clearly in the NFL, it’s about football. Teams around the league clearly don’t give a damn about what we say on message boards or radio stations. Project your morality all you want, teams are gonna bring in whoever gives them the best chance to win, regardless of what we think.

And let’s be clear here: the stadium was gonna be sold out if Watson was here. You know it, I know it, we all know it. The people claiming they won’t support the browns were the same ones saying they wouldn’t watch the nfl because of the kneeling.

Oh look, they’re all still here.

They are going to give Case Keenum a 5-year extension.

My head hurts. Ouch.

Like our owner did? Publicly saying he would be our starter moving forward and then publicly going after Watson? It sounds like you expect more from Baker than our ownership.


Is that what you call standing up for yourself using the exact same method the FO did?


Even if that's how you feel do you think the FO acted any better in all of this? Because anyone trying to point the finger in one direction here hasn't been paying attention.

I must've missed the tear-jerker goodbye letter posted to SM from the FO.

What I did hear them say was that they approach every offseason as if they were an expansion team. There are no sacred cows. Where was all this "they did him dirty" all this time they haven't given him his second contract?

You do realize that both things can be true, right? You can have people who are great at stats and breakdowns but are terrible in handling other situations.

It's like watching the news when a murder takes place and they talk to the neighbor... "He was a quiet guy who went to church and was nice to all of the kids in the neighborhood. I would never have believed he was a murderer."

Sure he was a great guy otherwise, but he is still a murderer. The two things are not connected.

Moving on from Baker is no excuse for making yourself look like fools in the process.

And if good marketing is what they were trying to accomplish this was a huge fail.

I'm sure they are very upset that PitDawg think they look like fools.

I can't believe that even you are trying to defend this BS. They publicly state Baker was their QB going into next year too. So you have decide which PR statement you have chosen to believe now? They also said character was a huge issue and then went after Watson. It appears you have decided to pick and choose which things they say that you want to believe and ignore the things you don't. I mean maybe we need a "grown up" owner.

And I'm sure they're impressed they have corporate shills on here trying to excuse they ignorant behavior too.

I hope Watson never plays another down after what this crap has done to my team.

Corporate shills? What are you even talking about?

Making excuses to make corporate billionaires look good for conducting themselves like fools. All you have to do is read the board.

Again, what are you even talking about?

If you lack the ability to read the comments that's on you... But Ill clue you in just a bit.

First there's some crazy narrative that "every team will do what it takes to upgrade every position". There are numerous teams that are in a very questionable spot in terms of their QB. Yet only a hand full attempted to get Watson. Pittsburgh being one such team in our own division. Some teams recognize that Watson is so entitled he will think he has the power to call the shots on who that team should hire on their coaching staff like he's in the FO. Some teams recognize that there's so much hanging over his head that the baggage will be a burden on the team to the point he isn't worth it. Then some teams don't. But only a hand full. Which the dumb asses who are running this clown show fall into.

Second, they claim Baker is immature for writing that letter and/or demanding a trade even after they attempted to replace him. Yet Watson threw a compete tantrum because he wasn't allowed to help hand pick his own coaching staff and demanded a trade. So they somehow think that's an excuse to point the finger at Baker while ignoring the fact that this FO wanted to bring in someone who felt far more entitled than Baker.

So yeah, they want to focus on Baker rather than make this FO accountable.

And the corporate shill part?

This is a woefully inadequate summary of the situation and very clearly slanted to one point of view.

Yeah, facts look like that sometimes when your agenda doesn't allow for facts. Can you explain what part of that post isn't factual?

We'll start with this....

Deshaun Watson officially requests trade from Texans hours after team names head coach

It appears the Deshaun Watson era is over with the Houston Texans. The relationship has taken center stage this offseason and is fueled by Watson's angst toward owner Cal McNair and Jack Easterby, the tumult reaching fever pitch with the team reneged on promises to include him in helping to identify the team's next head coach -- with further gasoline having been poured on the fire by the hiring of Nick Caserio as general manager. What had not occurred yet, however, was a formal request (read: demand) by Watson to be traded, but the Texans have now reportedly received just that.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/...exans-hours-after-team-names-head-coach/

How many teams have QB's that Watson would upgrade the position and then how many of those teams pursued Watson?

There may be details of my post you can try to debate but for the most part it's dead nuts factual.

What lead up to Watson wanting a say in the coaching search? I’m sure everything was going perfectly and the Texans weren’t a tire fire.

Once again, he announced his trade demand just hours after the new HC was named. You can dance around that if you like but claiming that's a coincidence doesn't make any sense.

So you think the only problem Watson had with the Texans was that they didn’t hear his voice with regards to the head coaching search?

so... watson threw a temper tantrum because he didn't get to pick his coach.

Watson to the Browns….