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Come on now. Had Baker NOT tried to tackle the guy, people would be griping about that. Unfortunate thing, no doubt. Just as when an O lineman gets rolled on his leg/ankle, etc.
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KS made some real questionable calls/strategies, from leaving our rookie RT 1-1 with Watt, to removing elements of the passing game that Baker seemed to thrive in (rollouts... yes, there was the injury but Baker was also executing sneaks/dives at times... so I dunno), and moving away from the run when the run is working.
I never stated nor implied anything he did was to ensure Baker failed. I, like many, have wondered aloud about strings of playcalls... and within the premise of this thread I don't think he has any wiggle room now that he has Watson running the O.
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KS made some real questionable calls/strategies, from leaving our rookie RT 1-1 with Watt, to removing elements of the passing game that Baker seemed to thrive in (rollouts... yes, there was the injury but Baker was also executing sneaks/dives at times... so I dunno), and moving away from the run when the run is working.
I never stated nor implied anything he did was to ensure Baker failed. I, like many, have wondered aloud about strings of playcalls... and within the premise of this thread I don't think he has any wiggle room now that he has Watson running the O. Didnt Rodgers say he couldn't believe the positions KS was putting Baker in?
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KS made some real questionable calls/strategies, from leaving our rookie RT 1-1 with Watt, to removing elements of the passing game that Baker seemed to thrive in (rollouts... yes, there was the injury but Baker was also executing sneaks/dives at times... so I dunno), and moving away from the run when the run is working.
I never stated nor implied anything he did was to ensure Baker failed. I, like many, have wondered aloud about strings of playcalls... and within the premise of this thread I don't think he has any wiggle room now that he has Watson running the O. Didnt Rodgers say he couldn't believe the positions KS was putting Baker in? Yep, on the Mannings MNF show.
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I'm not trying to say that it's all KS's fault. I'm just saying it's not 100% X-person's fault. A lot of different people took criticism that all can stand on its own.
Stefanski's playcalling wasn't the only issue, but IMO he needs to do much better now that he has all the pieces of a dominant offense.
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I'm not trying to say that it's all KS's fault. I'm just saying it's not 100% X-person's fault. A lot of different people took criticism that all can stand on its own.
Stefanski's playcalling wasn't the only issue, but IMO he needs to do much better now that he has all the pieces of a dominant offense. With potential at C and TE...a RT at LT and a presently-broken RT along with exactly (1) legit, NFL-cailber WR. We have (2) very good Gs, (2) very good RBs...and a top (x) QB on this offense...I won't fall for the "dominant" designation just like I didn't at the start of last year.
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I'll highlight that I think more of DPJ than most (if I'm reading things correctly). I think he's a weapon so long as he's not our #1.
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I'll highlight that I think more of DPJ than most (if I'm reading things correctly). I think he's a weapon so long as he's not our #1. I like DPJ too...I should have put him in with the other (2) "potential" guys.
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I don't believe he has yet earned such praise. Maybe he will, maybe he won't. But you may wish to hope they don't go into the season as DPJ as the #2 WR. I'm sure that's Watson's hope.
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I don't believe he has yet earned such praise. Maybe he will, maybe he won't. But you may wish to hope they don't go into the season as DPJ as the #2 WR. I'm sure that's Watson's hope. Yeah, I get it... I agree we could definitely do better than DPJ at #2. I just think it's not the end of the world if we don't... especially if Cooper IS the guy that's going to draw double-teams.
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While I'm not accusing you of this, many posters claimed that our WR's were weak overall. There were times that OBJ was double teamed. At times Landry was double teamed. I'm also not saying that Cooper isn't more deserving of being double teamed but it's not a new situation.
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FWIW, I thought our WRs were going to be bomb.com last year.... shows what I know.
IMO, if we've truly got our #1 WR all set (dude with talent that will also work well w/in the O), then the rest should shake out fine, especially with a QB that's going to be more accurate and hit the open guy.
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In 2020 Watson had Brandon Cooks and Will fuller. His #3 was Randall Cobb. You can take your pick of the first two. DPJ is no Cooks or Fuller. Watson wasn't relying on just a #1 WR and hopefuls. Hopefully for Browns fans he won't have to in 2022.
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