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Look at the link with Pickens Relative Athletic Score.
His 10 yard split classified as "great"
Career drop rates
George Pickens: 2.1%
Skyy Moore: 3.3%
Chris Olave: 4.7%
Jahan Dotson: 5.1%
Drake London: 5.7
Alec Pierce: 6.4%
Garrett Wilson: 6.8%
Justyn Ross: 7.1%
Treylon Burks: 7.4%
Jameson Williams: 7.7%
Jalen Tolbert: 8.4%
Christian Watson: 12.7%
He only played in 4 games last year because he tore his ACL in the Spring. If he had played a full season. He would be a top 15 pick.
Just watch his tape.
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Sure I'll compare his tape of all 5 catches to any of these guys tapes.
His 10 yard split was 36th percentile amongst recievers.
His hand size is 9th percentile......
his 40 is 63rd
None of this says 1st round pick. Look maybe you're right and he will fully recover from his ACL, but that is a risk I take in the 3rd or 4th round.
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Sure I'll compare his tape of all 5 catches to any of these guys tapes.
His 10 yard split was 36th percentile amongst recievers.
His hand size is 9th percentile......
his 40 is 63rd
None of this says 1st round pick. Look maybe you're right and he will fully recover from his ACL, but that is a risk I take in the 3rd or 4th round.
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Sure I'll compare his tape of all 5 catches to any of these guys tapes.
His 10 yard split was 36th percentile amongst recievers.
His hand size is 9th percentile......
his 40 is 63rd
None of this says 1st round pick. Look maybe you're right and he will fully recover from his ACL, but that is a risk I take in the 3rd or 4th round. What does your question here have to do with who they will take? Pound sand.
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Well this is a "predict who the Browns will take at #44" thread
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David Ojabo. I'm going to start a thread about him tomorrow. bonefish and I had a brief conversation about Jameson Williams and his injury. It got me to thinking. I think Ojabo fits in nicely w/the type of guy our FO likes. His ceiling is unlimited.
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Ojabo could absolutely be the pick. Lots of raw talent. Especially, if the Browns perceive this year to be a "make the playoffs, make some noise and SB run in 2023" with a potential Watson suspension this season. It buy them a year with Ojabo, especially if the bring back Clowney on a 1-2 year deal.
Ojabo meet the age and RAS profile. I still think Drake Jackson is a good possibility at #44.
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looking at that, his size is more in line with a stand-up 3-4 OLB than a knuckle in the dirt 4-3 DE... smaller side and he skipped the tests that could show he has strength for quick engagement at the line. He's fast-twitch, for sure, and kinda explosive, but I'm betting he gets swallowed by OLine at this level if he has to line up at the LoS
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... there goes Joe Thomas, the best there ever was in this game.
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That is pretty much what I said in the thread by his name.
RAS is a good measurement of athletic ability. However, it does not indicate how a guy plays.
I don't see him as 4-3 DE. In addition he started playing football late in life. He lacks alternative moves besides his speed rush.
I saw plays where the tackle got his hands on him and swallowed him up. He is light in the seat and does not have any pure bull rush moves.
In the right scheme he would be good. He is fast and quick. As you stated I see him more as OLB in a 3-4.
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My pick as well, but I think we move up to take him
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Him or Perrion Winfrey. I'd be content with either.
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Changing my pick; I think we end up taking Skyy Moore at pick #44.
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I'm changing my pick also I think we run up to the podium and take SAM WILLIAMS from Mississippi 6'4" 261lbs, 4.46 40 time. 32.5 vertical
Played in the SEC recorded 12.5 sacks in 13 games 10th in the country with 4 forced fumbles. Had sexual battery charges in 2020 but those were dropped. Why is this kid not getting the love he should be getting. He's a stud Pass rusher
I don't see us passing on him.
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It is now noon on draft day so submissions for predictions are now closed. Here are the entries: Jester - Nik Bonitto Eotab - Sam Williams OrangeCrush - Skyy Moore Bonefish - Logan Hall Mgh888 - Perrion Winfrey Guard dawg Perrion Winfrey Fl Dawg - Drake Jackson Dawg Citizen - George Pickens Milk Man - George Pickens Pastor Marc - Arnold Ebekitie Super Brown - Edge Rusher from Houston - Presuming Logan Hall let me know if you meant someone else. EdRomeo - Travis Jones at #44 Hammer - Treylon Burks Versatile Dog - David Ojabu Clwb418 - Move up to draft Travis Jones Throw Long - Trade for Deebo Samuel or Kadrious Toney and take Trey McBride at #44 If Travis Jones gets picked at #44 Edromeo wins, but if we trade up and take Jones then Clwb wins. If we trade down regardless of who we select, or if we draft a non guessed player then nobody wins. Thanks for playing 
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I have to change mine.
IMO we have some agreement with Clowney. Immediate impact means receiver.
Skyy Moore because I question if some of the others are there. I like him a lot and think he is a good fit.
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I agree that I think we have an agreement with Clowney. Anything can happen but I believe that's a very strong (85%) likelihood. I think Pickens will be gone. I think Interior DL might be the play as I think some premium talent will drop - and I agree with someone (EO?) that posted about the viability of a non-WR non-DL pick.
The more things change the more they stay the same.
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Because IMO we have an agreement with Clowney. That tells me receiver is the play.
The reason is we signed Winovich. We also have Weaver. So, I think we are good at DE.
I also believe Berry has plans for interior DL. That could be a vet like Hicks or others and we may draft one in the third.
I believe Berry wants an immediate impact and that means receiver. This draft is deep at that position and there will be a good receiver where we pick or close.
Skyy Moore makes sense. He should be there and IMO he is a good fit. There are others that could be there that I will be happy with.
#44 pick receiver.
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My top hope is for Jahan Dotson to fall to us. I would even trade up for him. But going along with the non wr/non Dline pick, it sounds as if Nakobe Dean could fall to us. If he did, and we took him, we would have to have to design a defense to take advantage of the speed of our linebacker while minimizing the lack of size. But if we did, I think the defense could be transformative in the same way the Golden State Warriors were when they went to their 3-ball offense.
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It is now noon on draft day so submissions for predictions are now closed. Here are the entries: Jester - Nik Bonitto Eotab - Sam Williams OrangeCrush - Skyy Moore Bonefish - Skyy Moore Mgh888 - Perrion Winfrey Guard dawg Perrion Winfrey Fl Dawg - Drake Jackson Dawg Citizen - George Pickens Milk Man - George Pickens Pastor Marc - Arnold Ebekitie Super Brown - Edge Rusher from Houston - Presuming Logan Hall let me know if you meant someone else. EdRomeo - Travis Jones at #44 Hammer - Treylon Burks Versatile Dog - David Ojabu Clwb418 - Move up to draft Travis Jones Throw Long - Trade for Deebo Samuel or Kadrious Toney and take Trey McBride at #44 If Travis Jones gets picked at #44 Edromeo wins, but if we trade up and take Jones then Clwb wins. If we trade down regardless of who we select, or if we draft a non guessed player then nobody wins. Thanks for playing Updated with the Bonefish change request.
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I have to change mine.
IMO we have some agreement with Clowney. Immediate impact means receiver.
Skyy Moore because I question if some of the others are there. I like him a lot and think he is a good fit.
Great minds think alike, haha! I will be very happy if we end up with Skyy.
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I'll play... and, I'll be bold: we trade 44 and Baker to move up and select Devonte Wyatt.
If I have to stay put at 44 for the predictions, then I take Travis Jones.
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Absolutely cannot get down with Pickens. I don't care what the circumstance, I cannot get down with a guy in round 2 that had 5 receptions last year......absolutely not. He was hurt most of last year. Had a big catch in the National Championship game. Pickens is a big play WR. Watson and Pickens could be a great combination. If the Browns get him at 44 it could be a steal.
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I won't try to predict who we'll draft at #44.
Accelerating the plan by sacrificing so much capital for Watson shows that Haslam is going all in on a two year plan.
I think WR is still a strong area of need. I think the way we have tiered "jump off the page" athletics means there are four, possibly five WRs that we consider "top tier".
If two of those are still available in the 20s, we won't hesitate to be bold and aggressive towards drafting one of them.
I'll go ahead and predict that we don't draft at #44.
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You think we’ll trade up?
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I think there is a good chance, depending on the criteria I explained.
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I think there is a good chance, depending on the criteria I explained. I guess trading up in the second round is super unlikely (we did it last year). Trading in the 20s, as you suggested, seems like a long shot.
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I think there is a good chance, depending on the criteria I explained. I guess trading up in the second round is super unlikely (we did it last year). Trading in the 20s, as you suggested, seems like a long shot. I'm not sure what you mean by long shot. Irrational? Maybe. Depends on assets required.
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My Two Final Drafts One With A Trade Into Round 1 and One Without Any Trades
First I Traded Our 2nd (44) Our 1st 3rd (78) Our 4th (118) and Our 2nd 7th (246)
Round 1 Pick 27 (T.B.): Treylon Burks, WR, Arkansas (A)
Round 3 Pick 35 (COMP): John Ridgeway, DT, Arkansas (A-)
Round 6 Pick 23: Nolan Smith, DE/OLB, Georgia (A+)
Round 7 Pick 2: Jake Ferguson, TE, Wisconsin (A+)
Second and final Draft No Trades:
Round 2 Pick 12: Devonte Wyatt, DT, Georgia (A-)
Round 3 Pick 14: Christian Watson, WR, North Dakota State (A+)
Round 3 Pick 35 (COMP): Amare Barno, DE/OLB, Virginia Tech (A+)
Round 4 Pick 13: Nik Bonitto, DE/OLB, Oklahoma (A+)
Round 6 Pick 23: Kellen Diesch, OT, Arizona State (A+)
Round 7 Pick 2: Damarion Williams, CB, Houston (A+)
Round 7 Pick 25: Lucas Krull, TE, Pittsburgh (A+)
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My Two Final Drafts One With A Trade Into Round 1 and One Without Any Trades
First I Traded Our 2nd (44) Our 1st 3rd (78) Our 4th (118) and Our 2nd 7th (246)
Round 1 Pick 27 (T.B.): Treylon Burks, WR, Arkansas (A)
Round 3 Pick 35 (COMP): John Ridgeway, DT, Arkansas (A-)
Round 6 Pick 23: Nolan Smith, DE/OLB, Georgia (A+)
Round 7 Pick 2: Jake Ferguson, TE, Wisconsin (A+)
Second and final Draft No Trades:
Round 2 Pick 12: Devonte Wyatt, DT, Georgia (A-)
Round 3 Pick 14: Christian Watson, WR, North Dakota State (A+)
Round 3 Pick 35 (COMP): Amare Barno, DE/OLB, Virginia Tech (A+)
Round 4 Pick 13: Nik Bonitto, DE/OLB, Oklahoma (A+)
Round 6 Pick 23: Kellen Diesch, OT, Arizona State (A+)
Round 7 Pick 2: Damarion Williams, CB, Houston (A+)
Round 7 Pick 25: Lucas Krull, TE, Pittsburgh (A+) And THIS^ type of scenario is exactly what I see as a probable approach. If those assets are too heavy (I'd kick that 4th to 2023), or the opportunity doesn't present itself... no go. If no-go, I see the second scenario playing out. Draft your DE or DT and choose your WR next... from a large pool of "second tier" receivers.
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It is now noon on draft day so submissions for predictions are now closed. Here are the entries: Jester - Nik Bonitto Eotab - Sam Williams OrangeCrush - Skyy Moore Bonefish - Skyy Moore Mgh888 - Perrion Winfrey Guard dawg Perrion Winfrey Fl Dawg - Drake Jackson Dawg Citizen - George Pickens Milk Man - George Pickens Pastor Marc - Arnold Ebekitie Super Brown - Edge Rusher from Houston - Presuming Logan Hall let me know if you meant someone else. EdRomeo - Travis Jones at #44 Hammer - Treylon Burks Versatile Dog - David Ojabu Clwb418 - Move up to draft Travis Jones Throw Long - Trade for Deebo Samuel or Kadrious Toney and take Trey McBride at #44 If Travis Jones gets picked at #44 Edromeo wins, but if we trade up and take Jones then Clwb wins. If we trade down regardless of who we select, or if we draft a non guessed player then nobody wins. Thanks for playing Updated with the Bonefish change request. Looks like everyone is still in contention except Hammer
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Super Brown - Edge Rusher from Houston - Presuming Logan Hall let me know if you meant someone else. Logan Hall
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Draft went well for the Browns.
We have lots of options starting round two. Wideouts, pass rushers, DT, OT.
Plenty of good players.
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I think we can definitely get an impact guy here at 44. I’m intrigued by pairing Dean with JOK, though I understand our FO’s hesitation to put so much draft capital into the LB spot
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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I apologize for the garlic breath cause nobody wishes to discuss my picks... 
Rather than being redundant about Sam Williams, Travis Jones, Perrion Winfrey, Trey McBride all my wannabe picks at #44.
Another guy that just would not surprise me for us to take. OT Bernard Rainmann. Kid has the "BIGGEST" upside to him and our contract with Conklin runs out soon. He could become special.
Just putting that out there. and now "BOO"
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The only player you listed that I have wtched is Winfrey.
Really like him. In fact I just like players who play like him. He is a brawler and baller.
He is a all out effort guy.
However, because of the way the first round played out. I really believe it wide receiver or pass rusher.
Ebiketie has real potential as a pass rusher. Powerful guy who can bend. I would be shocked if he lasts to 44.
If Berry wants him bad. Probably have to trade up.
Some really good receivers left. Maybe one still there in the third.
I would love to come away with Pickens or Moore and come back and land Perrion Winfrey. I would be a happy guy.
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We might try to move back a couple spots to get another mid-round pick.
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I think Winfrey is a very high possibility for Berry to take cause not only is he "GOOD" but he is YOUNG which everyone has been putting up as a common denominator of Berry's picks.
You want young and good enough to provide impact in 2022 that would be Winfrey!
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It will be interesting to see if Berry goes: WR, DE, or DT with #44.
All positions of need for the Browns, but how does that intersect with BPA at this point in the draft?
Also, does anyone give any weight to players who visited the Browns leading up to the draft. If so, wonder if Christian Watson would be the pick based on that.
I personally like any of the following at #44: A. Ebiketie, L. Hall, T. Jones, P. Winfrey, D. Jackson, S. Moore, and G. Pickens.
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A lot can change as far as talent at position is concerned from #33 to #44. But if I'm looking at the draft right now going into round 2, I'm looking at DT as having the best talent pool left on the board.
As of this moment, looking at who I think will be selected and who I think will be remaining on the board, I would venture to guess that Travis Jones DT will be Berry's selection. I think we may see two more WR's taken as well as a couple of edge rushers before Berry picks at #44. At that juncture I believe that Jones will be the BPA at a position of need that fits the mold that Berry looks for.
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During Senior Bowl week they ran 5 on 5 drills with the lines.
I did not see anyone have a good rep against Winfrey. Then when the game was played. He was the player of the game.
PFF is a good source for some things. But not all things. Attitude is not a stat. So, PFF is not all that high on Winfrey.
Winfrey attacks his guy. He likes it. He comes at you hard. He has long arms. His 10 yard split is very good.
I doubt Berry will take him at 44. If he is there in the third maybe then.
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