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We watched York kick one time from 50+ and said OK


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I think you always want competition in the camps at kicker. Maybe the Browns were doing McLaughlin a favor by releasing him now so he can hook-up w/another team?

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No doubt they were doing him a favor. York is going to be the kicker. Now we will bring in some kid for exposure.


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I think you always want competition in the camps at kicker. Maybe the Browns were doing McLaughlin a favor by releasing him now so he can hook-up w/another team?

That makes a lot of sense.. but I bet they bring in a few kickers to compete... Just a guess..


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I think you always want competition in the camps at kicker. Maybe the Browns were doing McLaughlin a favor by releasing him now so he can hook-up w/another team?

That makes a lot of sense.. but I bet they bring in a few kickers to compete... Just a guess..

Stefanski just said on WKNR that Cade York will go into training camp with zero competition. No surprise when you invest a 4th round pick in a kicker.

If he were a UDFA there would be competition.

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I think you always want competition in the camps at kicker. Maybe the Browns were doing McLaughlin a favor by releasing him now so he can hook-up w/another team?

That makes a lot of sense.. but I bet they bring in a few kickers to compete... Just a guess..

Stefanski just said on WKNR that Cade York will go into training camp with zero competition. No surprise when you invest a 4th round pick in a kicker.

If he were a UDFA there would be competition.

But you would think that we would bring in another kicker for Training Camp.


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I think you always want competition in the camps at kicker. Maybe the Browns were doing McLaughlin a favor by releasing him now so he can hook-up w/another team?

That makes a lot of sense.. but I bet they bring in a few kickers to compete... Just a guess..

Stefanski just said on WKNR that Cade York will go into training camp with zero competition. No surprise when you invest a 4th round pick in a kicker.

If he were a UDFA there would be competition.

But you would think that we would bring in another kicker for Training Camp.

Stefanski said he wants York to get all of the reps. Said he believes it is best for him in the long run.

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I think you always want competition in the camps at kicker. Maybe the Browns were doing McLaughlin a favor by releasing him now so he can hook-up w/another team?

That makes a lot of sense.. but I bet they bring in a few kickers to compete... Just a guess..

Stefanski just said on WKNR that Cade York will go into training camp with zero competition. No surprise when you invest a 4th round pick in a kicker.

If he were a UDFA there would be competition.

But you would think that we would bring in another kicker for Training Camp.

Stefanski said he wants York to get all of the reps. Said he believes it is best for him in the long run.

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It's a pretty big vote of confidence that he's the guy. Hopefully, he's up for it.
I wonder if they'd consider bringing Phil Dawson in for a week or two here and there to work with him; have Phil teach him the finer points of kicking in that stadium. If there's a place you should bat 1.000, it's on your home turf.


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The Cleveland Browns announced a unique signing earlier today. They inked Texas Tech basketball forward Marcus Santos-Silva to a free agent deal as a tight end.

Santos-Silva did not play college football. In fact, the 6-foot-6, 261-pound bruiser didn’t even play high school football, stopping his career on the gridiron after eighth grade.

Now, he’s giving the sport another shot at its highest level. It goes without saying that Santos-Silva is a longshot to make the roster, but his storyline will be intriguing to follow in the coming months.


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The Cleveland Browns announced a unique signing earlier today. They inked Texas Tech basketball forward Marcus Santos-Silva to a free agent deal as a tight end.

Santos-Silva did not play college football. In fact, the 6-foot-6, 261-pound bruiser didn’t even play high school football, stopping his career on the gridiron after eighth grade.

Now, he’s giving the sport another shot at its highest level. It goes without saying that Santos-Silva is a longshot to make the roster, but his storyline will be intriguing to follow in the coming months.

Probably an analytics decision in case the NFL decides to go with the jump ball vs. kickoffs to start the game. thumbsup


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Originally Posted by FL_Dawg
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I think you always want competition in the camps at kicker. Maybe the Browns were doing McLaughlin a favor by releasing him now so he can hook-up w/another team?

That makes a lot of sense.. but I bet they bring in a few kickers to compete... Just a guess..

Stefanski just said on WKNR that Cade York will go into training camp with zero competition. No surprise when you invest a 4th round pick in a kicker.

If he were a UDFA there would be competition.

But you would think that we would bring in another kicker for Training Camp.

Stefanski said he wants York to get all of the reps. Said he believes it is best for him in the long run.

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Could also be he wants York to get all the teps because there is a different sized ball used in the NFL, I’ve read some college kickers can never make the switch, and of course they can’t make it in the NFL.

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Coach Priefer has got to be pretty happy with this off-season, we drafted a kicker, signed a punter and a dynamite return specialist in FA.


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That makes a lot of sense.. but I bet they bring in a few kickers to compete... Just a guess..


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Originally Posted by Milk Man
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I think you always want competition in the camps at kicker. Maybe the Browns were doing McLaughlin a favor by releasing him now so he can hook-up w/another team?

That makes a lot of sense.. but I bet they bring in a few kickers to compete... Just a guess..

Stefanski just said on WKNR that Cade York will go into training camp with zero competition. No surprise when you invest a 4th round pick in a kicker.

If he were a UDFA there would be competition.

But you would think that we would bring in another kicker for Training Camp.

Stefanski said he wants York to get all of the reps. Said he believes it is best for him in the long run.

I can agree with that, though I could see someone kicking some on kick-offs just to lighten the load, though i don't know how much they actually practice kickoffs


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This isn't a big deal, but I really don't like the idea of not having another kicker in camp. Anyone who has been to TC understands how practices are different for kickers than the other guys. I would bring in one to two other kickers just to have a look at them and get to know them in case York gets hurt or turns out to be like that kid TB drafted a handful of years ago. You never know w/kickers. But again......I am not complaining, just stating my thoughts on the situation.

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Originally Posted by Versatile Dog
This isn't a big deal, but I really don't like the idea of not having another kicker in camp. Anyone who has been to TC understands how practices are different for kickers than the other guys. I would bring in one to two other kickers just to have a look at them and get to know them in case York gets hurt or turns out to be like that kid TB drafted a handful of years ago. You never know w/kickers. But again......I am not complaining, just stating my thoughts on the situation.


The upside is there are more kickers out of work than are needed. If we need one during camp Berry get get on Amazon and get same day delivery.

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Olivier Vernon according to his agent plans to play 2022.

Wonder if the Browns will talk to him. He is coming off a achillies that he said was hard to recover from.

They should bring him in and get him checked out. He will not cost very much. He missed all of last year.

He played pretty well for the Browns. If he checks out. He would fine in rotation. Clowney remains the priority but having both would be good.

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LOL.............and you are right. I was thinking about how many guys move around, but it's nice to see a guy day in and day out. Again, not a big deal. Just a difference in opinion.

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Originally Posted by Versatile Dog
This isn't a big deal, but I really don't like the idea of not having another kicker in camp. Anyone who has been to TC understands how practices are different for kickers than the other guys. I would bring in one to two other kickers just to have a look at them and get to know them in case York gets hurt or turns out to be like that kid TB drafted a handful of years ago. You never know w/kickers. But again......I am not complaining, just stating my thoughts on the situation.

I agree. I get him getting reps, but I also worry about over kicking the guy. That is why I said maybe bring in somebody to lighten the load a bit. If for no other reason to give some kid a bit of exposure to NFL camp.

Maybe what Stefanski was referring to was reps in the pre season games? I could see that happening.


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Good point Peen. There’s a balance. I hope we bring in a guy to handle kicks in training camp simply to not overuse him


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This isn't a big deal, but I really don't like the idea of not having another kicker in camp. Anyone who has been to TC understands how practices are different for kickers than the other guys. I would bring in one to two other kickers just to have a look at them and get to know them in case York gets hurt or turns out to be like that kid TB drafted a handful of years ago. You never know w/kickers. But again......I am not complaining, just stating my thoughts on the situation.

I agree. I get him getting reps, but I also worry about over kicking the guy. That is why I said maybe bring in somebody to lighten the load a bit. If for no other reason to give some kid a bit of exposure to NFL camp.

Maybe what Stefanski was referring to was reps in the pre season games? I could see that happening.

Its especially odd to go solo at kicker because York apparently did not handle kick offs at LSU ...

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I think there's a big difference between bringing in a camp leg or two and bringing in competition for the position. I would be willing to bet there will be a kicker or two brought into camp. But I also think Yorks position as the starter is penciled in provided something devastating doesn't happen to change that.


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Whomever ends up being the backup/emergency kicker may end up being the Camp Leg.

But, if you already know this is your guy - and you wouldn't draft a kicker this high if you weren't sure of that - then there's no reason to keep a higher priced leg around. Cut whomever you have, then sign a street free agent or two to burn through most of the kicking reps in Berea and let York practice down on the lakefront as much as possible.


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The only thing that would make someone "a higher priced leg" would be a signing bonus or keeping them beyond training camp. The weekly salary for participating in training camp is very low.

Rookies make about 3400 a week and veterans get about 6400 a week.

https://www.sportskeeda.com/nfl/explained-do-players-get-paid-nfl-training-camp


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Browns Cap Space Today With Baker and Hooper Included: $27,792,501


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So we're still in good shape with the cap.

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So we're still in good shape with the cap.

Yes we are 2nd in Total Cap Space in the NFL thumbsup


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We are in VERY good shape and we stand to carry a ton of that over to next year, which further softens the blow of some of the mega contracts we've handed out recently.


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Plus, next year there won't be Bakers contract and the cap will go up. We should have more than enough cap space to sign and extend whom we want!!

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We are in VERY good shape and we stand to carry a ton of that over to next year, which further softens the blow of some of the mega contracts we've handed out recently.

It helps to have the smartest guys in the room. The Giants are coming out of the Gettleman Era with no talent and no cap space.

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Baker Mayfield $18,858,000

Austin Hooper $9,500,000

Come June 1st We Could Gain With Hoopers and if we get someone to take Bakers Contract $27,792,501 + $28,358,000 Giving Us $56,150,501 thumbsup


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