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Yup. But, of those, only 4 actually made qualifying offers, and if I remember correctly, one was dismissed immediately (Carolina) due to being in their Division. To be honest - if 4- 8 - 12 - or 30 other teams had such bankrupt morals and such a poor investigation into what potential future drama might ensue from a trade for DW ... it doesn't make any difference. Just because others were as bad as CLE doesn't help improve our situation or give the organization a pass on not doing their due diligence properly. As I explained earlier, due diligence can go only so far unless you are the CIA or Jim Rockford.
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Yup. But, of those, only 4 actually made qualifying offers, and if I remember correctly, one was dismissed immediately (Carolina) due to being in their Division. To be honest - if 4- 8 - 12 - or 30 other teams had such bankrupt morals and such a poor investigation into what potential future drama might ensue from a trade for DW ... it doesn't make any difference. Just because others were as bad as CLE doesn't help improve our situation or give the organization a pass on not doing their due diligence properly. I agree completely. Though I got the team wrong (which is sad, because I even tried to look for it... don't do stuff when you're distracted by other stuff), I was only pointing out that while there were a large number of teams interested, only 4 were actually interested enough to actually try. The rest were almost certainly of the level where they made the call to find out how low of an offer they could make and then hung up on Houston.
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(which is sad, because I even tried to look for it... don't do stuff when you're distracted by other stuff), I never do - my kids are locked in the basement playing violent video games. They aren't due to be allowed out for another 12 hours.
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What lesson would they have been taught? Once again, there were 13-15 teams that expressed interest in trading for Watson. Do they all need to be taught a lesson or do sometimes just not work out the way one thought? Only four of them made any serious desire or offer to acquire him. I guess if you wish to paint the picture that all "13-15" weren't just kicking the tires you would have a point.
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Yup. But, of those, only 4 actually made qualifying offers, and if I remember correctly, one was dismissed immediately (Carolina) due to being in their Division. To be honest - if 4- 8 - 12 - or 30 other teams had such bankrupt morals and such a poor investigation into what potential future drama might ensue from a trade for DW ... it doesn't make any difference. Just because others were as bad as CLE doesn't help improve our situation or give the organization a pass on not doing their due diligence properly. As I explained earlier, due diligence can go only so far unless you are the CIA or Jim Rockford. Or the New York Times it would appear.
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Due diligence can go only so far unless you are the CIA or Jim Rockford. I've never considered having a signature during my time on this board, but I'm seriously considering this.
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Yup. But, of those, only 4 actually made qualifying offers, and if I remember correctly, one was dismissed immediately (Carolina) due to being in their Division. To be honest - if 4- 8 - 12 - or 30 other teams had such bankrupt morals and such a poor investigation into what potential future drama might ensue from a trade for DW ... it doesn't make any difference. Just because others were as bad as CLE doesn't help improve our situation or give the organization a pass on not doing their due diligence properly. As I explained earlier, due diligence can go only so far unless you are the CIA or Jim Rockford. Or the New York Times it would appear. The New York Times doesn't have $253M and three 1st round picks invested in Watson ... how they managed to find stuff that the Browns didn't I have no idea .... oh, actually yes I do --- they were actually LOOKING for dirt.
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While I didn't spell it out the way you did, I agree. Anyone doing a serious, in depth investigation could have uncovered these things. It didn't take the FBI. And for those posters who are young, Rockford was great, but it was a TV show.
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While I didn't spell it out the way you did, I agree. Anyone doing a serious, in depth investigation could have uncovered these things. It didn't take the FBI. And for those posters who are young, Rockford was great, but it was a TV show. and Columbo was way better, anyway. Aside from that, you'd think a billionaire with the capacity to have the likes of a former Director of the U.S. Secret Service at his disposal might be able to muster a little bit of actual "in-depth" digging.... at least as much as Jim Rockford, anyway.
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Rockford had the better opening song though.
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Rockford was way cooler. He had a trailer home on the beach, a kickass Trans Am, women loved him, and Angel Martin, the most hilarious sidekick ever until Kramer came along.
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The actor who played Rockford was ugly, and had a terrible voice, so it was a burden to watch. And shows that involved Private Investigators were stupid in the first place, until Knight Ryder came along. (actually... The Dukes' of Hazard) --- if you got down to it, < that was a private investigator show, with some slapstick comedy (kind of like Scooby Doo, and Threes' Company) thrown in. And all were better than that boring Rockford Files. ( that's right actually it wasn't Jim Rockford, Rockford was the name of the town, Rockford Illinois, a back-town, like Reno is to Vegas.)
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The actor who played Rockford was ugly, and had a terrible voice, so it was a burden to watch. And shows that involved Private Investigators were stupid in the first place, until Knight Ryder came along. So a show about a talking car is when you think PI shows improved?… gotcha. That’s pretty much all I need to know. It’s also not surprising coming from you. Lol
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Glad to hear that the Browns are not considering voiding Watson's contract. I am also happy to hear of the support from the organization and Watson's teammates. This year will most likely be rough, but we could have a great QB on the team for up to a decade. Long-term thinking is smart. I support the Browns and am happy that they have recognized that we needed an upgrade at QB.
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Good from Andrew Berry to show all these lying women what kind a man the Browns want as their poster boy.
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Rockford did not have a Trans Am. He had a basic Firebird. It did however have a 400 motor in it.
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They have 230 million reasons and six draft picks as to why they really have no choice at the present time. But they have a history of changing their minds on a dime when it comes to public statements and what is allowed to get out by this organization. And one didn't happen very log ago. It too was about a QB. That's why we know they could do a 180 on a dime. The fans believed them then and were lied too. Some seem quite open to buying their BS and believing them again.
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They have no option at this time other than this. Unless/until enough comes down that allows them to present a solid case to attempt either of those, they'd just be making an even bigger mess of things if they said they were considering it. Their one and ONLY play at this moment is to remain 100% all-in. There isn't another viable option.
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Glad to hear that the Browns are not considering voiding Watson's contract. I am also happy to hear of the support from the organization and Watson's teammates. This year will most likely be rough, but we could have a great QB on the team for up to a decade. Long-term thinking is smart. I support the Browns and am happy that they have recognized that we needed an upgrade at QB. They weren't going to ditch Baker either... SO don't count on anything until it happens. Goodell might suspend him indefinitely.
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Rockford did not have a Trans Am. He had a basic Firebird. It did however have a 400 motor in it. At least a few of your remember. I was afraid by bringing him up many wouldn't know what I was talking about.
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Rockford did not have a Trans Am. He had a basic Firebird. It did however have a 400 motor in it. Hat tip ... 45 years dims the details.
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Man, there were a lot of detective shows from that time period. In addition to Rockford Files and Columbo, we had The Fugitive, Ironsides, Kojak, The Mod Squad, Mannix, Baretta, The Avengers, Hawaii Five-O, Dragnet, The FBI, Mission Impossible, Adam 12, etc.
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Plus 'Kolchak: The Nightstalker', Starsky & Hutch, Perry Mason (detective-ish), and probably a good deal more.
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Yeah, I couldn't think of all of them and I probably botched a lot of the spellings. LOL...........I used to love a lot of those shows. Not all of them, but quite a few.
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Murder, She Wrote. My mom loved that show.
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Don't forget Jed Clampett turns detective.....Barnaby Jones! and the fat man's hero, Frank Cannon.
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Good ones. Watched both of those shows.
How about McMillan and Wife or something like that?
Would Get Smart be included in this group? LMAO....but still, I loved that show when I was a little kid. It was so dumb, it was hilarious.
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How about one of my favorites, The Wild Wild West. Government agents investigating high end criminals in the old west.
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The Man From Uncle or something like that. I thought that was pretty good.
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Hunter, Magnum PI, Hill Street Blues, Spencer for Hire, Riptide…
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Maybe someone can start a TV detectives thread?
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I also remember watching The Untouchables, Highway Patrol, 77 Sunset Strip although some are not "pure" detective shows like Dragnet. But I am also trying to place one I barely remember (which means it wasn't often on — after all, we had just gotten a TV, and it only got three channels). I think its name was Hawaiian Eye; that certainly might have been the model for a later show set in the islands, perhaps. The limited competition was fierce between police/detective shows and the Eternal Western, one cowboys episode trailing after another, rather like the NFL televised schedule we enjoy today. LOLetc.
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If you ever find yourself up all night, Me TV has Perry Mason, Mannix, Cannon, Barnaby Jones, Highway Patrol and Dragnet every weeknight. When we're hosting at the campground, we use the over the air digital antenna and that's one of the channels we get.
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Let’s not forget Charlie’s Angels. Every episode looked great. I mean, WAS great.
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