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Thanks for the updates, Milk. I like how Bell and Watson are lockermates. Not sure if that is an actual word, but oh well. LOL Anyway, I think we need a solid contribution from Bell this year if we are to have success in the passing game.

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Good grief! "The press asked good questions". There was not one football question asked.
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I'd really like to know who actually thinks their character is perfect. Other than the arbiter of all things Dawg Talk that is.
Which one?


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I don't want to get in the middle between you and Vers, but you nailed it... regardless of what anyone thinks of Baker, he worked his butt off, brought respectability to this franchise for the first time since it's rebirth.

The way the team handled this was pure trash. Absolute TRASH!

I think we all know that Watson is probably a better QB than Baker in so many areas.. But for me, character still matters,, Clearly, if it comes to a battle of character, Watson can't hold a candle to Mayfield....

And yes, Character matters to me.

I'd like to know what it would look like when the team handles something in a way other than trash pure trash. edit::: and I'd like a description of how they could have handled things differently this time.

And When I read the " team handled this as trash Absolute Trash." It reminds me of other situations,
The seeking of a 'uarterback that (i'll say wrongly) resulted in Dishone Kizer starting the majority of games in a year.
The decision to bring back a 1-15 coach, and an 0-16 after 1-15 coach. To start another season.

The team waiving Joe Haden when he still had years of good play.
Watching K'Wan Williams play well for the Niners, (or Tremont, on of em), when I know he was a full time option on the Browns a year or so before.
Watching Keenan McCardell have most of his career in Jacksonville and or San Diego, when he began playing well, As a Cleveland Brown.

I'd like to know what it would look like when the team handles some things in thought out, non reactionary ways, and looks like they have an eye for seeing a developing football player, or ability to recognize a good football player, (David Patton) when they have them on their own team in practice.
(Carolina-Miami super bowl, saw it.)

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Guys, I'm down in Florida......hotter than hell.....football question, has anyone seen anything good or bad concerning the Northern Iowa guy, Weston.....how's he been doing, has the shown anything or is it still to early cuz we be in shorts and T shirts. I'm desperate for news on the guy.....he's my sleeper.....yet, no one in a sleeper anymore, news if someone burps....Weston, what's up.....GO Browns!!!


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Not much, hitt. I did see this:


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5 things to watch at Browns OTAs

The Browns kicked off OTAs Tuesday and will be holding practices in each of the next three weeks leading to mandatory minicamp
May 24, 2022 at 05:04 PM

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The offseason program took another step Tuesday as the Browns took the practice field for the start of Phase Three — the period where teams can run organized team activities and hold drills that more closely resemble a full team practice.

The Browns won't quite have a "full" team, though, because OTAs are voluntary. They won't have a full roster at CrossCountry Mortgage Campus until June 14, when the three-day period of mandatory minicamp begins, but a decent chunk of the team is still in Cleveland now to start laying groundwork for 2022.

Here's some of the things worth keeping an eye on in Berea over the next three weeks:

1. How the offense will adapt with Watson

This will be one of the big storylines discussed all the way until Week 1. Prepare to hear plenty of chatter about it throughout the next several weeks, in particular, since OTAs will present the Browns with their first chance to use Watson in a team practice setting.

The Browns could be making several changes to their offense with Watson now under center, or they could deviate very little from the play styles Head Coach Kevin Stefanski has used in his first two years in Cleveland. The Browns have said they'll wait to see Watson practice first before those decisions are official, and now they'll have the next four weeks to finally formulate those plans.

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2. Bell's slot usage


Plenty of focus will be on Bell regardless of where he lines up — the third-round rookie WR has an opportunity to carve an immediate role in a receiver room with lots of spaces open behind Amari Cooper.

The slot position could be Bell's fastest way of climbing the depth chart and taking a big target load as a rookie. The Browns figure to give Bell plenty of reps from that spot between now and training camp, and if the sure-handed receiver can make them count, he could be a top receiving option as early as Week 1.

3. Emerson's slot usage

Both slot positions on the Browns are open, and both could be captured by rookies. The defensive slot role is open, too, after they traded Troy Hill to the Rams, and the Browns' replacement for it could've been made a day before the trade when the they selected Martin Emerson Jr. with the 68th overall pick.

Emerson certainly doesn't have to start his career at the position, though. The Browns have depth at corner and could turn to Greg Newsome II, who played inside on occasion last year, or another one of the guys in the room to be the slot man. But if the Browns believe it could be Emerson, then they could give him a large share of snaps at the position in OTAs.

4. Where does Winfrey start?

The Browns' DT rotation is wide open. Both starters from last season have departed, and the Browns' two biggest additions at the position have been free-agent acquisition Taven Bryan and fourth-round pick Perrion Winfrey, whom some draft analysts believed could've been an early Day 2 pick.

No position battles will be decided in OTAs, but a good first impression from Winfrey could go a long way toward carving a big role as a rookie, whether that comes early in the season or later. He had 5.5 sacks last season at Oklahoma and could become a talented pass rusher in the interior with some more fine-tuning.


5. Other rookie standouts

Third-round rookie DE Alex Wright will be one to watch, too, as are any kicks from fourth-round K Cade York. Wright will be vying for a role in the defensive end rotation, while York is the lone kicker on the roster and will be an intriguing watch throughout all minicamp and training camp practices.

Fifth-round RB Jerome Ford, sixth-round WR Michael Woods II and seventh-round picks DE Isaiah Thomas and C Dawson Deaton will be worth watching as well and will be competing for roles on a roster packed with talent and depth. Another name worth watching could be undrafted WR Isaiah Weston, who impressed in rookie minicamp and is at a position with some of the most openings of any spot on the roster.


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Travell Harris Wr from Washington State needs more of a look at the slot receiver.
The Browns should be putting all different personel combinations on the field to see who plays well. Of Course, it doesn't matter they don't seem to care. ( Austin Paztor) would support that point.


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Thanks Verse Dog, I had missed that.....he's a big body and could/should make some noise with his athletic ability if the show isn't to much for him.....thanks, again...Go Browns


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Not sure where to put this? It's not really OTA news, but Jim Donovan is discussing our defensive tackles, Watson's looming suspension, and how Jacoby Brissett will look in this offense.


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5 takeaways from Browns mandatory minicamp


After three days of practice, the Browns will have a six-week break until they’re back in Cleveland
Jun 17, 2022 at 08:00 AM

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The Browns concluded their mandatory minicamp Thursday with a practice at FirstEnergy Stadium, the third and final tune-up of the week and last the team will have until training camp begins in late July.

Head Coach Kevin Stefanski kept the three practices light for the Browns, who visited the Pro Football Hall of Fame on Wednesday and practiced only once at CrossCountry Mortgage Campus this week. Still, the week was productive and gave us a peek into how some players have progressed throughout the offseason program, as well as other plans the Browns could have in store for 2022.

Here's five takeaways from minicamp:

Team-bonding will pay dividends during season

Stefanski stressed throughout the offseason program that team-bonding was one of, if not perhaps the biggest priority the Browns were looking to achieve with players back in Cleveland under a setting free of pandemic restrictions.

The Browns coordinated two trips to venues away from CrossCountry Mortgage Campus during the program. The first was a visit to the Cavaliers' team facility, where players took shots instead of practicing on the 10th day of OTAs. The second was the Hall of Fame visit, which followed a light 30-minute practice at Tom Benson Hall of Fame Stadium.

During two of the weekends, QB Deshaun Watson also took the offense on a trip to the Bahamas, and Myles Garrett took the defense on a trip to Miami.

"To be a great team, you have to have that camaraderie," LB Anthony Walker said Wednesday. "You have to have that team mindset because when you go through the dark days — sometimes when you lose — or the dog days of camp, the dog days of this grind, minicamp, and everything like that, you need that team brotherhood and team bond to bring the team together."


Stefanski couldn't implement the same type of relaxed, social-friendly and in-person measures to create team-bonding opportunities his first two seasons as head coach. The activities this offseason, though, clearly had a positive effect on the team as minicamp concluded. Players constantly appeared to be exchanging jokes on the field, and as the final round of interviews concluded Thursday at FirstEnergy Stadium, a few players popped into the scrums to ask their own questions.

D'Ernest Johnson asked Jadeveon Clowney what his goals were this season, to which Clowney replied getting more sacks and tackles for a loss. WR Amari Cooper poked in later, asking if Clowney would come to his birthday party. Clowney chuckled and said he would if he didn't have a football camp on the same day.

It was a fitting scene to end a minicamp built to be enjoyable for the players.

"I think the guys had fun," Stefanski said. "They had fun competing and pushing each other, but I think ultimately we got a lot of work done but we did it in a safe manner."







Offensive groundwork has been laid, but it isn't finished

Most of the Browns were looking to accomplish in minicamp was about the passing game. With three new quarterbacks and 12 padless practices over the course of the offseason program, that philosophy made plenty of sense.

The Browns will likely install several new wrinkles in their offense now that Deshaun Watson is the quarterback. For the last two seasons, Stefanski prefaced the offense on a heavy run game with several play-action passing plays, and while those principles might not change, the Browns do have more room to be flexible with a mobile, strong-armed quarterback like Watson.


Add in the fact that the Browns, who led the league in 13-personnel usage (1 RB, 3 TEs) the last two seasons, no longer have TE Austin Hooper, and it's safe to assume the Browns will spend much of time leading up to Week 1 retooling an offense to fit the strengths of all players on the offense.

"We do want to become masters of the offense by the time Week 1 rolls around," Stefanski said. "It's a process. You can't just plug something into the back of your head and get it. You have to work at it and spend some time with it."

Young players were the core focus

The Browns shuffled several younger players through first-team reps during minicamp and the offseason program. Jacob Phillips was playing first-team MIKE linebacker. Donovan Peoples-Jones, Anthony Schwartz and David Bell were also rotated at wide receiver. Third-round rookie CB Martin Emerson Jr. had a handful of reps on first-team defense. Those were among the most notable, but others were given looks on the top units, too.

The Browns know what they have on most of the roster because they have so many core players who have been here for both of Stefanski's seasons. So, with only a finite amount of reps before training camp, minicamp provided the coaches an optimal time to evaluate the younger talent with an even greater focus in this particular minicamp.

"We have a lot of young guys who we are excited about," Stefanski said. "There is so much that goes into it. There is so much from a meeting standpoint. There is so much from the workouts and being out here in practice. We throw a lot at them. It is hard for me to single one guy out, but we are really excited about the young guys. It is as much to do with what they can bring on the field with off the field."

David Bell's hands were in midseason form

Speaking of young players, Bell, the third-round rookie WR from Purdue, went weeks without dropping a pass in practice.


He was asked Wednesday in his media interview if he's actually dropped a pass at all during the offseason program. He said he has, but it came back during the Browns' first or second OTA practice. That's impressive stuff for a rookie who has taken a considerable chunk of the throwing reps the last month.

"I'm real hard on myself," Bell said. "I think the first few days wasn't what I projected it would be. It was just a matter of getting on my feet and getting an understanding of the plays, but I think each and every day, I progress."

Bell has primarily been used in the slot role throughout the offseason program but will receive plenty of reps on the outside in training camp. The Browns are looking for several receivers to step up behind Cooper, and Bell — as well as Schwartz and Peoples-Jones — will likely be the top candidates the Browns count on.

"He wants to be good at this so you see him working," Stefanski said. "He is the guy who gets extra. He will be in the facility at all hours working really hard with coach (pass game coordinator/wide receivers coach Chad) O'Shea to refine the game. He's a rookie, so he has plenty of room to grow and will have time to do that, but he's doing a nice job."

Clowney expects bigger, better things in Year 2 because of who's behind him

We're ending this list with one final note from the defensive side of the ball.

The Browns will have two of the game's best pass rushers for the second consecutive year in Myles Garrett and Jadeveon Clowney, who re-signed with the Browns in May and will look to stack an even better season than his first in Cleveland last year. Clowney totaled nine sacks, his best since 2018, and thrived as offenses had to decide whether to stack blockers against him or Garrett, who finished with a franchise-record 16 sacks.

The duo produced 25 total sacks, the highest combined sack total by Browns teammates, since Reggie Camp (14) and Clay Matthews (12) had 26 in 1984.


It's reasonable to believe the duo could be even better in 2022. Clowney explained why Thursday, but his explanation wasn't about Garrett — he knows he'll help him already — but rather the continuity at linebacker.

Anthony Walker, Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah, Sione Takitaki and Jacob Phillips all appear to be in line to carry the biggest roles at the position. Clowney played with all of them, and he believes that chemistry will help him produce even more in 2022.

"Everybody's back," he said. "I already know how (Walker) feels and what he likes to do, and that makes it easy on myself. I can look back there and don't even have to ask. I already know how he does. That's what will make it a lot better, playing with the same guys again instead of bouncing around and trying to figure out new guys."

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Report provides injury updates on Denzel Ward, Greedy Williams

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The Cleveland Browns enter over a month off between the end of mandatory minicamp this week and the beginning of training camp in late July. As is true with all teams, injuries can derail a season quickly as could significant discipline for QB Deshaun Watson.

Jack Conklin’s recovery from last year’s devastating knee injury was the biggest medical issue coming into the offseason. Greedy Williams and Jakeem Grant joined Conklin in sitting out minicamp practices with undisclosed injuries.

A big scare in the final practice of minicamp, which took place at FirstEnergy Stadium, was when Denzel Ward left the field earlier with medical staff.

According to a new report, Ward dodged any significant foot injury and should be ready for training camp:

An MRI and X-ray on the left foot which Ward injured during Thursday’s practice inside First Energy Stadium showed no structural damage, a league source confirmed to the Beacon Journal. He is expected to be available once training camp starts July 27.

The good news continued with Williams’ injury:

Greedy Williams spent much of the three days working with a trainer off to the side as he recovers from what is, per reports, a sprained ankle that also isn’t expected to be a long-term issue.

This early in the offseason, Cleveland likely played it cautious with any injury concerns. With Troy Hill traded in the offseason and Greg Newsome II moving inside during three-receiver sets, Ward and Williams will be the team’s primary outside corners.

Health is vital in the NFL, Ward and Williams being healthy for training camp is great news going into the weekend.


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I wonder how Conklin is progressing?

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Talk about putting a positive spin on both of our starting CB's being injured. Might be my paranoia talking.


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Good health means good offensive line play
Jack Conklin didn't participate in any of the on-field portions of either OTAs or minicamp. However, he was around the facility throughout the offseason as he rehabs from a ruptured patellar tendon suffered last November.

That was about the only thing missing from an offensive line that looks to get back to being one of the best in the AFC, if not the entire league. Nick Harris worked extensively at center with the first unit as he gets the initial crack at replacing veteran J.C. Tretter.

All-Pro left guard Joel Bitonio didn't take part in the OTAs in Berea, but was present throughout the minicamp. Left tackle Jedrick Wills didn't show signs of the ankle injury which seemed to plague his second year in the league.

"I think Jed is right where we need him," Stefanski said. "He has worked extremely hard this offseason. I thought he came back in really, really good shape so it is just a continuation of that work, and I think he will be right where we need him to be."

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Thanks Grateful. That's concerning news about Conklin. It's important to have him in the lineup.

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I read recently they hope to have him ready by September, which means Conklin still could get some reps in TC. He’s a veteran lineman, though, he won’t need a ton of work before the opener.


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