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I guess I agree with you because I don't know what the endgame is (I assume nothing... it'll get forgotten as soon as the next outrage/crisis spins up).

But one side is WAAAAAY too quickly ignoring the fact that most of the testimony we're hearing is from Trump's own people. I mean, this whole thing kicked off with an interview from his own daughter. This isn't some partisan hit-job. It's a ruthlessly thorough and organized establishing of a story (that... let's be honest here... we already knew to be true).

Can you point out exactly what policies of trump you liked when he was not a politician. You know since you like the fact he’s not a life long politician.Come on! Let’s hear from all you trump supporters on which policies you like that trump had before he became a politician.

This is the man they support………

Donald John Trump, the fourth of five children of Fred and Mary Trump, was born on June 14, 1946, in New York City’s Queens borough. The family lived in the upscale community of Jamaica Estates, reflecting the success of Fred’s company—Elizabeth Trump & Son, named for his mother and business partner—in developing properties for middle-class families in Queens, Brooklyn, and Staten Island. The three Trump sons—Fred Jr., Donald, and Robert—worked summers and some weekends on construction sites or in offices when they were old enough; the daughters, Elizabeth and Maryanne, were not brought into the business because, Elizabeth would say, “It’s a man’s family.” (Fred Jr., an airline pilot, died in 1981 of alcoholism; Donald cited Fred’s fate to explain why he does not drink or smoke. Robert became an executive in the family business.)

Trump apparently proved a handful for his parents. “He was a pretty rough fellow when he was small,” his father said. Trump’s unbridled energy as a child led his parents to enroll him at 13 in the New York Military Academy, north of New York City, to instill discipline. While Trump reveled in the military drills and trappings, he later avoided service in the Vietnam War with college and medical deferments and a high number in the draft lottery. He started college at Fordham University, but then transferred to the University of Pennsylvania Wharton School for its real estate studies program. Even as a student, Trump invested in Philadelphia real estate. Graduating in 1968 with a bachelor’s degree in economics, Trump returned to New York and the family business.

In 1973, the Trump company settled a racially charged matter: The Justice Department alleged that the Trump company discriminated against African Americans seeking to rent apartments. The Trumps did not admit wrongdoing but agreed to rent more apartments to blacks. They bought property elsewhere, in Virginia, Ohio, Nevada, and California. The younger Trump, however, eyed expansion closer to home—beyond New York’s outer boroughs to Manhattan. By the mid-1970s, he was branching into Manhattan skyscrapers and had renamed the company the Trump Organization. “Not many sons have been able to escape their fathers,” he would tell an interviewer. Trump became company president, his father the chairman. “Donald has a competitive spirit, and I don’t want to compete with him,” Fred Sr. said in the early 1980s.

Trump’s first big move into Manhattan, at age 30, was to develop the Grand Hyatt Hotel from the carcass of a bankrupt Penn Central Railroad’s Commodore Hotel, abutting Grand Central Terminal. It was a complex transaction enabled by Trump’s partnership with the Hyatt hotel chain, his father’s political pull, and a 40-year city tax abatement worth hundreds of millions of dollars over time, the first-ever such tax break for a commercial property in New York. “The project set the pattern for Mr. Trump’s New York career: He used his father’s, and, later his own, extensive political connections, and relied on a huge amount of assistance from the government and taxpayers,” the New York Times wrote in 2016. (Fred Trump was associated with Brooklyn’s Democratic organization.)

Trump followed by building Trump Plaza, an apartment development, and the Trump Tower on Fifth Avenue, which became home to luxury stores as well as to Trump’s multifloor, gold-gilt residence and company headquarters. In the 1980s, he got involved in casinos in Atlantic City, including Trump Plaza (originally known as Harrah’s at Trump Plaza) and Trump Castle. In 1990, he opened his so-called “eighth wonder of the world”—the Trump Taj Mahal. At one point, Trump casinos reportedly employed more than 8,000 people and accounted for nearly one-third of the city’s gambling revenues.

Opening the Trump Taj Mahal, however, was a highly leveraged transaction, with Trump taking on significant debt to open the casino. It was the start of a debt spiral that threatened Trump’s casinos and his broader businesses. Trump’s financial situation got so desperate that Fred Trump bought more than $3 million in casino chips to help his son make an interest payment—a gambit later penalized as an illegal loan. Lenders forced the son to sell assets, including his yacht and the Trump Shuttle airline, and he had to agree to live on a budget. A biography of Trump published in 1993 was unflatteringly called Lost Tycoon; it said Trump was reduced to a “public laughingstock” by financial woes and a personal scandal, his acrimonious divorce from first wife Ivana and marriage to actress Marla Maples.

Through the 1990s, Trump finagled his business finances to make debt payments, in the process borrowing more and at higher rates. He formed a publicly traded company, Trump Hotels and Casino Resorts, which helped protect him from personal liability, but never had a profitable year. By 2004, it was in bankruptcy. Bankers sued, alleging that the Trump name connotes “the failure to pay one’s debts.” Trump blamed the general decline of Atlantic City for dragging down his businesses, but his casinos were losing market share to rivals long before the gambling mecca’s slide. In 2009 and 2014, the casinos were in bankruptcy again; by the time Trump announced for president in June 2015, his gambling empire had collapsed. Yet while shareholders and vendors lost their bets, Trump’s financial maneuvers shielded him personally.

Through it all, Trump kept up the appearance of the high-flying success, protecting his brand as he shifted into new businesses such as licensing deals in the United States and abroad, how-to books like The Art of the Deal, golf and hotel resorts, beauty pageants, and branded products from suits to bottled water. He also expanded into entertainment ventures, including what would become the hit television franchise The Apprentice. From 1996 to 2015, he was an owner of the Miss USA, Miss Teen USA, and Miss Universe pageants. (Univision and NBC in 2015 severed their connection to the pageants over Trump’s remarks at the start of his campaign maligning undocumented immigrants; Trump in 2016 said he settled lawsuits against both companies, then sold his pageant interests.) Even in 2004, as Trump’s casino business was in bankruptcy again, the New York Times noted—in words that would ring true during his campaign years later—“His name has become such a byword for success that even the most humiliating reverses barely dent his reputation. . . . The rules that govern others just don’t apply to Trump.”

The Apprentice, in which Trump played himself, directing contestants in tryouts for jobs and famously telling losers “You’re fired,” ran on NBC from 2004 to 2015. The network planned for a new season even as Trump, the executive producer and star, demurred and spoke of running for president—its brass believing, like many people, that Trump again would not follow through. NBCUniversal ended the relationship only after Trump’s anti-immigrant remarks sparked a furor.…

Normally I'd agree with that statement. But given the weird loyalty that folks have toward Trump instead of the USA, I'd say, no, not this time, not in this case.

There is a cult that follows and believes everything that comes out of Trumps mouth, including the "BIG LIE". What was it that Rudy told the former speaker of the arizona house,,,,, Oh yea,, Rudy said: "We have plenty of theories but we don't have proof"!

This for me is proof positive that Trump believers will simply lie to protect him.

Funny thing is this, SS agrees that he was mad and threw a tantrum because he wanted to go to the capital on that day.... but deny he lunged for the steering wheel..

Not under oath they haven't.

Not to mention that one said her piece under oath and the other (at least this point) has not.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/06/poli...january-6-committee-this-week/index.html

Cipollone will testify behind closed doors this Friday

https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/06/politics/lindsey-graham-subpoena/index.html


From the story;

"This is all politics. Fulton County is engaged in a fishing expedition and working in concert with the January 6 Committee in Washington. Any information from an interview or deposition with Senator Graham would immediately be shared with the January 6 Committee," Daniel and Austin wrote in the statement.
Graham's legal team also stated that as Chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, Sen. Graham was "well within his right to discuss with state officials the processes and procedures around administering elections."
Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis' special grand jury wants to hear from Graham because the Republican senator allegedly made two calls to Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger and his staff in the wake of the 2020 election.
According to court filings, Graham "questioned Raffensperger and his staff about reexamining certain absentee ballots cast in Georgia in order to explore the possibility of a more favorable outcome for former President Donald Trump."
The filing also states that Graham brought up allegations of widespread voter fraud, which have been widely debunked.

I've never seen a political party so intent on skirting the rule of law to avoid testifying. But you know, somehow that's the Dems fault.

It's weird that that is the picture you posted when Trump is the one that's colored orange, has the weird white circles in his eyes, and usually wears a tie that's way too long.

Hope he grows a pair and tells the unfiltered truth.

Lets set a date for when you guys stop crying and whinning about Trump. Lets talk about Inflation, Immigration, gas prices,Crime. Quit worriying about the peacefull protest on Jan 6th.

Deal
The day after he announces he won't be running for president in 2024

And there is that... Have you noticed that there is a pattern to what Trumpians/MAGA Heads do? They go around spouting out all kinds of stuff when not under oath.. And they don't like going under oath.

Look at Lindsay Graham.. I mean, he was just served by Georgia fought back with some of the dumbest lines I think I've ever heard. He's made statements and apparently he spoke to Raffensburger about canceling some mail in ballots. He says he didn't but he won't go under oath to repeat that.. Has Rudy ever testified under oath regarding this matter?

So many Republicans have come forward. Didn't hide. When asked to testify, they did so.

But Trumpians and MAGA heads run and hide.

We are. You must have missed those threads.

Here's an idea...and it's just a thought...how about we talk about multiple issues that are central to the country?

You know, at first I agreed with you, but then I thought about it and realized that there are probably several others in the ranks who would try to pull off the same spiel if they don't - at the very least - see repercussions to these types of actions.

Now, that all being said, I just saw an article this morning that he's contemplating announcing his 2024 candidacy to undermine the committee, lol.

Well the idea it was a peaceful protest is a flat out lie. But about par for the course - perhaps you are also a holocaust denier and also believe 911 was orchestrated by the US Government?

And I am sorry if you can only talk and handle one topic at a time - the rest of us will continue to talk about multiple topics from the Supreme Court, Inflation, Trump and Biden and whatever else is relevant to the day.

How about holding those who commit crimes against the United States accountable.

How about that?

It's not our fault you can't walk and chew gum at the same time. Many people can. 140 cops were injured. Yeah, that's peaceful.

Group of Pennsylvania Republicans call Trump-backed Doug Mastriano an 'extremist' and endorse Democratic rival Josh Shapiro for governor

A group of nine Pennsylvania Republicans has broken with the state GOP and announced support for the Democratic candidate for governor Josh Shapiro, calling his GOP opponent — state Sen. Doug Mastriano — an "extremist" who threatens American democracy.

In a statement released by the Shapiro campaign, the current and former elected Republicans said they would be voting for the Democrat this November in large part due to his support for the rule of law. In 2020, Shapiro, currently serving as Pennsylvania's attorney general, fought lawsuits filed by former President Donald Trump that sought to overturn the election.

Mastriano, at the same time, held briefings with Rudy Giuliani that pushed false claims of mass voter fraud; he later used campaign funds to bus supporters to Washington, DC, for the January 6, 2021, rally.

Former Rep. James Greenwood, a moderate Republican from southeast Pennsylvania who left Congress in 2005, told The Philadelphia Inquirer he feared that Mastriano, as governor, would undermine the integrity of the 2024 election. The state senator continues to push conspiracy theories about the 2020 presidential election and has promised to appoint a top election official who shares his views.

"I think he's an extreme, dangerous guy who is out of touch with the majority of the people in Pennsylvania," Greenwood told the paper.

Other Republicans backing Shapiro include former state House Speaker Denny O'Brien of Philadelphia, former state Rep. Dave Steil of Bucks County, and current Lawrence County Commissioner Morgany Boyd.

Mastriano's campaign did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

'A threat to the rule of law'

Former Rep. Charlie Dent, a Republican from Allentown who retired from Congress in 2018, likewise cited fears of how Mastriano could impact the next presidential election in a statement backing Shapiro. The attorney general, Dent said, would unite the state.

"Doug Mastriano, on the other hand, is an extremist who is a threat to the rule of law and the constitutional order," Dent said, per the Pennsylvania Capital-Star.

First elected in 2018, Mastriano, a veteran of the US Army, established a name for himself among right-wing activists by challenging mask mandates and opposing COVID-19 vaccines, which he has falsely claimed are not true vaccines. In addition to busing supporters to Washington, DC, on January 6, 2021, a matter being investigated by the congressional committee examining the insurrection, video shows Mastriano was at the US Capitol when rioters breached police lines.

After receiving a late endorsement from Trump, Mastriano beat out a crowded field to become the Republican nominee for governor with a plurality of the ballots cast. Neither he nor other Republicans have challenged the legitimacy of that vote.

Since winning the nomination, Mastriano has sought to allay some Republicans' concerns about his statewide electability by focusing more on economic issues.

In an interview last week with the right-wing media outlet Newsmax, Mastriano conceded that the decision to overturn Roe v. Wade would provide a boost to his opponent's campaign given surveys that show a majority of Pennsylvanians believe it should be legal to terminate a pregnancy. The state senator, who opposes abortion in all instances, with no exception for the life of the parent, went on to call the question of reproductive rights a "distraction" from gas prices and inflation.

https://www.businessinsider.com/pen...MqIFYQr-rJyOY9qzReU1sJdm1F94D0hqTrcr96mc

RINOs or Deep State.... clearly. Dismissed by Trump Fan instantly. Definitely nothing to see here.

Says Cipollone did not contradict the testimony of other witnesses. Boom.

Point to add:

Cipollone corroborated virtually everything from Hutchinson, Jan. 6 panel member says
Ali Vitali and Haley Talbot and Kyle Stewart
Tue, July 12, 2022, 7:00 AM

WASHINGTON — Trump White House counsel Pat Cipollone corroborated virtually all of the revelations from previous witnesses, including former White House aide Cassidy Hutchinson, in lengthy testimony before the panel last week, a top Jan. 6 committee member told NBC News.

“Cipollone has corroborated almost everything that we’ve learned from the prior hearings,” Rep. Jamie Raskin, D-Md., said in an exclusive interview just hours before the next hearing. “I certainly did not hear him contradict Cassidy Hutchinson. … He had the opportunity to say whatever he wanted to say, so I didn’t see any contradiction there.”

It was unclear if Cipollone was directly asked by investigators about the specifics of some of the more explosive aspects of Hutchinson’s testimony — including that they would be charged with “every crime imaginable” if Trump went to the Capitol on Jan. 6.

Pat Cipollone, the former WH Counsel to President Donald Trump, walks to a break room during his July 8th closed-door testimony before the House Select Committee investigating the January 6th attack on the Capitol. (Frank Thorp / NBC News)
Pat Cipollone, the former WH Counsel to President Donald Trump, walks to a break room during his July 8th closed-door testimony before the House Select Committee investigating the January 6th attack on the Capitol. (Frank Thorp / NBC News)
Video clips of Cipollone’s taped testimony will be presented at Tuesday’s hearing, which Raskin will lead alongside Rep. Stephanie Murphy, D-Fla., as the panel focuses on how the pro-Trump mob came together at the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021.

Raskin said the hearing will include new details about what committee members have been told was “the craziest meeting in the Trump presidency,” on Dec. 18, 2020, describing it as “hot-blooded, contentious, deranged” when the president met with outside and internal legal advisers for a “Hail Mary desperation ploy” to subvert an election they had lost, including possibly seizing state election machines and appointing Trump ally Sidney Powell as a special counsel.

The hearing, Raskin said, will bring viewers up to Jan. 6 in the committee's timeline and set the stage for what he said feels like the “end of this main block of hearings.”

The committee initially planned to hold two hearings this week, but it changed course Monday by postponing the one scheduled for Thursday in prime time. That hearing, expected to be the finale to the half-dozen hearings so far, is now likely to be next week.

But Raskin was also cautious about putting an end date on the hearings.

“One thing I’ve learned over the course of the select committee is that we never say, ‘Finally, the research and investigation are over.’ Because we are continuing to learn astounding new things on a daily basis.”

https://www.yahoo.com/news/cipollone-corroborated-virtually-everything-hutchinson-110035689.html



The committee initially planned to hold two hearings this week, but it changed course Monday by postponing the one scheduled for Thursday in prime time. That hearing, expected to be the finale to the half-dozen hearings so far, is now likely to be next week.

But Raskin was also cautious about putting an end date on the hearings.

“One thing I’ve learned over the course of the select committee is that we never say, ‘Finally, the research and investigation are over.’ Because we are continuing to learn astounding new things on a daily basis.”

Sorry for the double up on the copy and paste. My computer must have gone weird and I can't edit it.

Get your fries and ketchup ready!

Man, the committee has SO MUCH on Trump, it should be a lay-up for Garland.

Rep. Liz Cheney ends hearing with bombshell: Donald Trump called a witness in the House January 6 investigation
C. Ryan Barber 5 hours ago


Donald Trump called a witness in the House January 6 investigation within the last week.

Rep. Liz Cheney said the witness did not answer but alerted a lawyer, who then told the House panel.

Cheney previously showed evidence that Trump allies were pressing witnesses to do the "right thing."



Former President Donald Trump tried to call a witness in the congressional inquiry into the January 6, 2021 attack on the Capitol, Rep. Liz Cheney said Tuesday, prompting House investigators to notify the Justice Department.

"After our last hearing, President Trump tried to call a witness in our investigation — a witness you have not yet seen in these hearings. That person declined to answer or respond to President Trump's call and, instead, alerted their lawyer to the call," said Cheney, a Wyoming Republican, in a bombshell revelation that concluded the House January 6 committee's seventh public hearing.

"Their lawyer alerted us, and this committee has supplied that information to the Department of Justice," she added. "Let me say one more time: We will take any effort to influence witness testimony very seriously."

Cheney, the Hosue January 6 committee's vice chair, had previously gone public with the House January 6 committee's concerns about witness tampering as it continues to investigate the Capitol attack and Trump's efforts to overturn the 2020 election. At the House panel's previous hearing, Cheney revealed evidence that Trump allies were pressuring witnesses, a "practice that raises significant concern," she said.

Without identifying specific individuals, Cheney said Trump allies have urged witnesses to do "the right thing" ahead of appearances before the House January 6 committee.

"I think most Americans know that attempting to influence witnesses to testify untruthfully presents very serious concerns," Cheney said at the committee's June 28 hearing.

It is unclear whether the House January 6 committee alerted the Justice Department to Trump's call in the form of a formal referral. A Justice Department spokesperson declined to comment.

The mention of Trump's call capped a three-hour hearing that focused on the former president's embrace of draconian plans to retain power and his role in galvanizing far-right groups that stormed the Capitol on January 6.

The House January 6 committee played footage of former White House counsel Pat Cipollone and two cabinet officials — former Attorney General William Barr and Labor Secretary Eugene Scalia — testifying that they knew Trump had lost the election after the Electoral College voted to certify the results in mid-December 2020.

Nonetheless, Trump entertained desperate plans to remain in the White House, including by seizing voting machines and appointing Sidney Powell, a conservative lawyer known for propounding conspiracy theories, as special counsel to investigate baseless claims of voter fraud.

"I was vehemently opposed. I didn't think she should be appointed to anything," Cipollone told the committee in his recorded testimony Friday, a portion of which was played publicly for the first time Tuesday.

Drawing from recorded testimony, the House committee detailed a December 18, 2020, meeting in which Powell and former national security advisor Michael Flynn urged Trump to name Powell special counsel and sign an executive order to seize voting machines. In her own testimony to the House committee, Powell recalled how Cipollone "set a land-speed record" rushing to intervene in the meeting.

"I was not happy to see the people who were in the Oval Ofice," Cipollone said.

During the second half of the hearing, the House committee turned to the incendiary rhetoric in which Trump mobilized his supporters, including members of far-right groups such as the Oath Keepers and Proud Boys. The House committee highlighted a December 19, 2020 tweet in which Trump said: "Big protest in D.C. on January 6th. Be there, will be wild!"

Rep. Jamie Raskin, a Maryland Democrat, said Trump's incendiary rhetoric "electrified and galvanized" supporters. Later, he invoked a phrase from Trump's 2017 inaugural address — "American carnage" — and delved deeper into American history to say "the Watergate break-in was like a Cub Scout meeting compared to this assault on our people and our institutions."

"American carnage: That's Donald Trump's true legacy," Raskin said. "His desire to overthrow the people's election and seize the presidency interrupted the counting of electoral college votes for the first time in American history, nearly toppled the constitutional order and brutalized hundreds and hundreds of people."


https://www.businessinsider.com/tru...ommittee-cheney-witness-tampering-2022-7

Crickets from the right. Lol what happened to fighting back? Defend your deplorable leader! Prove he wasn’t involved with the Jan 6th insurrection. Lol Crickets.

Just Clicking


If you still support Trump, I just don't know what to say. Staunch Trump supporters are putting him in the ground and still no charges from the DOJ. (except for those that actually broke into the capital, some serious time and others with slaps on the wrist)

For my money, Trump, Flynn, Powell, Rudy, the My Pillow Guy, the Overstock Guy, the Infowars guy and all the various Paramilitary groups need to be held accountable. Is treason or domestic terrorism a possibility?

I wonder if those that still support trump have figured out that all the witnesses so far are trump supporters/Republicans. Those that actually worked for Trump.

Trump and his minions are trying like hell to discredit the committee which is probably pretty crazy.. All they are doing is asking questions. Those that are answering questions are those that worked for, supported and voted for Trump.

So his own people that witnessed his actions are testifying against him.

So back to my previous comment, If you still support him, I just don't know what to say.

It is EASY to say why......I'm a former Republican who's never voted for Trump- ever, and never will- but, Democrats have left the BORDERS wide open- come, let us feed you, care for you, give you covid shots, etc., etc, etc, let's make critical race theory major news, and reparations- free public housing for the last 3/4 of century and bias in jobs, education, etc don't count....whites are evil and must pay MORE and MORE...and the environment beats all- not enough power, but oil is bad, electric, wind, solar ONLY way to go....not. Those are just some off the problems we face as a nation. Lastly, and among the biggest- Black Lives Matter- except when the real problems are blacks killing blacks daily in every major city- and black families consist of mostly moms with kids from many different fathers who are not around anymore- and the cycle repeats itself. Personal responsibility with a nuclear family- it ain't government that will fix that.

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I don't get the "angry white people" BS. I'm white and have lived the same years as many who complain about how bad it is for white people... BS. Try being a young black man in the hood and working your way out. The problem with most of these "white people are not the enemy" types is they don't see the plights of others and feel entitled to being indifferent to anything that might help or hurt others. Nobody has ever called me an evil white man while I slowly discovered what racial inequity IS in America. But when I started speaking up for those whose voices don't get heard in my circles, I damn sure got attacked for that. Hard to imagine being so financially motivated that doing what's right and decent becomes somehow wrong and outrageous. But I will admit, there are times, especially when somebody like Joy Reid is dumping on white people in general, that I get a little pissed off about the "white man hate" too.

I think if we could bridge those divides by being decent to each other, the whole country would be better off. But that kind of solution seems a million miles away during these times. I rant against the right in general, but I'm normally targeting the extremist BS when I do. But I don't hate everyone who aligns with right-wing philosophies. I rant against religion and the religious when I think they are pushing it upon others or using religion for political or financial gains. But I don't hate the religious or their religions. And in the same way, I don't mind displays of racial pride. It's okay and healthy to have a sense of pride in your heritage and the things that make you, you. But I draw a line when that becomes the justification for treating others poorly, no matter who is doing it. At the same time, claiming you are being treated poorly over that kind of display of pride while intentionally using it to deny equality, imply superiority, limit or hold others back, or for purely hateful purposes is a disgustingly disingenuous abuse of this notion. So it makes it hard for me to be sympathetic, when a party linked to bigoted groups like the Trumpian alt-right, cries about being mistreated in this way. However, I do see a good bit of 'white bashing' for no reason in media and social discourse. It's a complicated and two-pronged problem.

And one last point, BLM and the marches, protests, or even the riots all happened BECAUSE of the way blacks are treated by cops. It was never an anti-white thing until Trump and company spun it that way and infuriated the less than moderate right. These are the half-truths and lies we as a country will be dealing with as part of the racial and political dysfunction in America for decades to come. Regardless of what BLM may or may not have morphed into, it started as a pure and for the greater good movement, with high ideals. 'People' on both sides of the aisle caused anything bad that may have come from it, not just the left or blacks. Cops killing blacks more often than whites, at a rate of 5 to 1 or higher, was, is, and will always be morally wrong and unacceptable in a democracy where we claim all people to be EQUAL.

His post is the perfect example of why the actual and full history of our nation should be taught in our schools. Not the white washed propaganda version those on the right keep perpetuating.

Logs show 10 House Republicans attended White House meeting on pressuring Pence

Ten Republican members of Congress attended a Dec. 21 White House meeting focused on efforts to pressure former Vice President Mike Pence to help overturn the 2020 election, according to the Jan. 6 committee.

Why it matters: The revelation underscores how deep the involvement of some lawmakers were in former President Trump's schemes to overturn the election even after the electoral college met to affirm President Biden's victory.

Driving the news: Rep. Stephanie Murphy (D-Fla.) said at a hearing on Tuesday that White House visitor logs reveal 10 members were physically in attendance:

Rep. Brian Babin (R-Texas)

Rep. Andy Biggs (R-Ariz.)

Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.)

Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-Texas)

Rep. Paul Gosar (R-Ariz.)

Rep. Andy Harris (R-Md.)

Rep. Jody Hice (R-Ga.)

Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio)

Rep. Scott Perry (R-Pa.)

Now-Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.)

The backdrop: Former White House aide Cassidy Hutchinson told the panel in closed-door testimony that members "felt that [Pence] had the authority to ... [send] the electors back to the States," according to a court filing from April.

Hutchinson noted that "they dialed in a few Members over the course of that meeting."
She mentioned two members – Reps. Mo Brooks (R-Ala.) and Debbie Lesko (R-Ariz.) – who were not in the visitor logs cited by Murphy.

The committee unveiled multiple pieces of new evidence about the planning of the meeting:

A note on Trump's private schedule for the day about a 2:00 pm "private meeting with Republican members of Congress" in the Oval Office.

Pence, Chief of Staff Mark Meadows and Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani were all in attendance, according to Murphy.

Brooks said in an email setting up the meeting, with the subject line "White House meeting Dec. 21 regarding Jan. 6," that he said he hadn't recruited other lawmakers into the "Jan. 6 effort" because "only citizens can exert the necessary influence on Senators and Congressmen."

What they're saying: Murphy tied the meeting to the testimony of former acting Deputy Attorney General Richard Donohue at a previous hearing.

Donohue said that Trump told him to have the Justice Department "just say the election was corrupt and leave the rest to me and the Republican congressmen."

She also noted that the committee has played testimony indicating that several of the members in the meeting later requested pardons after Jan. 6.

https://www.axios.com/2022/07/12/ho...GC6LKuo-3kP3wSN6J3eBpAB3x8Avctk7YdCcwkKE

The attempt to overturn our free and fair election process ran deep.

They should all be removed from their positions. If they’re lawyers they should be disbarred. Then any charges that can be filed against them should be.

Scumbags. Each one.

That roster is hilariously predictable.

If it’s so easy, say so, let’s hear it. Not a bunch of your fake Fox News anti democrat BS.