DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Palus Politicus Cuckoo Republicans, what they have become pt.5

I don't think American's were spoiled by stimulus checks... there was a significant number of people that did take advantage of the covid benefits they received and choose to stay home and get paid rather than work... I experienced that at my own place of employment.... there also has been a major shift of people not wanting to work... the candidate pool for open jobs is much smaller now than it was prior to the pandemic... I'm not blaming this on the rescue plan... just stating an observation

I disagreed with the rescue plan as I felt it would significantly jump inflation... we were getting inflation anyway thanks to the previous rescue plans... I felt Biden's was un needed.

My bigger issue is politicians (on both sides) taking one small part of a bill and using that as a catch line to put down the other side... there are like 50 items in the rescue plan.. but if you don't vote for it then "you're against retirement"... it's ridiculous and both sides are guilty of that crap

A lot of those low-end jobs, like restaurants, can't compete with the gig jobs delivering their products. I don't blame anyone for dropping out of this economy, if I could I would. Hell, I've worked from home for years and this is the first time in my adult life that what I do seems to be considered anti-American. When the hell did punching a clock to make money for some mega corp or rich dude that pays you peanuts become popular? Screw that. It's not like there is ANY upward mobility now. Most middle class people are just working to get by. TO GET BY. Let that sink in.

Maybe we should let in more illegals to fill all of those jobs that had those used to being upper middle class happy again? Who knew it would be like this after Trump? ME, I knew it was a path to hell, just not this bad. Imagine how bad it would be if he had won and was sitting there lying about the inflation and economy because he only measured that by the standards of the super-wealthy. I've been telling people on this board for years we were headed here. You can only take from the poor and working class so long before it all goes to hell. And now it is.

I work for a Fortune 50 company. I have all the upwards mobility I want, but I have to be the agent of that. They won't just move me up, I have to go earn it. So far it's been a pretty good ride, though I have only been here since 2016.

AND how many companies are in the fortune 50? How many total employees? How many lower-income working-class Americans? How many of those would qualify for the jobs?

I ask these things not to be snarky, but rather to point out that statements like this from a narrow world perspective do not apply to the big picture in any way. I'm happy for you and anyone in a 'good' situation, but the vast majority of working poor are not in similar situations. Go into the backwoods of almost any state and you will find the working poor are in dire straights. You can mock them until the pitchforks come out, but then it will be too late to change your tune. People need to be able to cover the basics with one job, period.

Fortune 50 consists of the 50 largest US companies. We currently have roughly 450k employees worldwide.

I can't speak to other companies but we have a history of good pay and rewarding hard work. I am particularly happy with that the company restated its commitment to telework (for employees that can). I have been full time work from home since the pandemic started, though I had 2 days a week previously. They have indicated the idea has worked well, and we have accomplished more work, with less people and people have been happier since we have been full time WFH.

Not saying there aren't bad companies out there. But it doesn't need to be a large corporation to be a bad thing, I have worked for some real a-hole in "family" business.

Did you really think I needed the first paragraph? OMG

And some of the biggest corps in the world are a-holes just like you mentioned in your reply. Think Amazon, Walmart, Mcdonald's... I could go on and on. Low-wage earners can make more at Doordash than working in some of these jobs. And many people took advantage of the pandemic to find new work. They may not be back in the dead-end jobs they left, but they have to eat, so they are doing something. You don't get public aid just because you are lazy. At least I've never heard of that happening in reality, and not just some crap a hater spews that becomes more than an alt-fact.

It isn't clear to some people that Fortune 50 (or 500) is only US companies. I didn't realize it was a rhetorical question.

years ago I worked at McDonalds. It was a starting type job, I move up at the store level fairly quickly. My experience was there was a lot of people that were employed there that didn't think they were paid well enough for their time, but they didn't want to put in any effort to advance, mostly they wanted to complain. And while this is a limited sampling I did work at 4 different locations in the time i spent with them, both franchise and corporate.


I do understand they shifted the franchise model they had when I was there, but that was well after I wasn't there.

I worked at McDs as a teenager. The staff was mostly teenagers. With some young adults managers. Its a transitionary job. You have that until you land something better or finish your schooling. Only libtards want to work at McDs as a cashier as their life calling and want a living wage from that.

I bet you’re the reason all the ice cream machines are broken.

Again, for some. For others with issues, it may be the best they could get. Say for instance a person of color with a rap sheet when jobs are a little scarce. As I said, I understand your perspectives but they are narrow and pertain to you and others like you.

I haven't eaten a thing from Mcdonald's, except a couple of orders of fries during road trips, for over 20 years. I know they tried to make their menu seem more healthy, but that just made me think polished turds. Still the best fries last time I had them though.

No youre just clueless and dont understand the meaning of transitionary job.

I don't think there are very many things you could say in English that I would not understand. And I certainly understood that, but not everyone has those better opportunities readily available to them. I thought you lived in the hood, must be the nice hood. Areas of this country are poor as hell. And all the people in those areas struggle to move up the ladder. Some have the deck stacked against them. But you probably just write them off as takers and worthless, like you do military retirees.

I do have a question for you Eve, and this is not a jab or anything like that. I'd like to know what it's like defending the party that just made you a second-class citizen, not in control of your own body? I know you have conservative beliefs and most of the time I can respect that until you get all Trumpian or Rand Paul-style libertarian extremist. But tell me honestly how do you justify that to yourself? I can't see why any free-thinking woman would vote GOPer until that crap is reversed or codified. Especially knowing that if dems don't stop it, the next GOPer POTUS, if not very moderate, will sign onto the extremist nationwide ban.

I am pro-choice. I am sure the majority of people are, so govenor/state elect races will become more meaningful now. In the past the state positions were not that meaningful. So Im ok with more focus on the state level. I would also be ok with the constitution being ammended to state that people have autonomy over their own bodies. I would prefer the latter over the former.

If you think a libertarian is an extremist then I just have to laugh at you endlessly. You should probably go read about libertarians.

So you are done backing Trump types, like DeSantis if he's the candidate? Just curious since you said you voted for Biden. And I agree about state and local levels being more important now 100%.

I actually know quite a few Republicans that say they will vote for the dems until Trumpism is diminished and out of power. Thought you may be in that group.

And no, not libertarians as a whole, just Rand Paul and others like him. And yes, I know you like Rand, but he's an idiot and an extremist.

Rand Paul is not an extremist. He is a quasi-libertarian that would best be described as a Constituationalist.

I did not vote for Biden.

I will vote for anyone the GOP trots out there, if its a moderate. I am not a Trump fan. I like his policies but feel he is too immature for the job.

I would not vote for Biden because he is not in control. He is too old and mentally gone.

Ideally a moderate of either party will win. Based on the last election, thats too much to ask.

+1

My bad on voting for Biden, I thought it was you who said in a Trump vs. Biden you would have to vote for Biden again. But I couldn't find the post, so it must have been somebody else. Right now, I don't think there are any moderates on the right. They all jumped ship when the lunatics took the asylum. And I'm also hoping like hell Biden doesn't run for a second term, even if it's against Trump. I'd like to see somebody that's not a septuagenarian or older as the candidate.

They're there, they just don't get the headlines.

Many of which are getting labeled as RINO's and attacked by the Trumpians. The extremists are doing everything they can to destroy them. Of course I think the same thing applies in terms of the far left progressives acting the same way towards moderate Democrats to at least some extent.

Progressives aren't 'far' left. They are 'TRUE' left. There are many much farther left than progressives. Smfh.

Bruh, I gotta tellya:

I hate all these examples.
ALL of them.

I understand why folks use them, but I hate how banal and reductive they are.

Tucker Carlson, Who Works for Rupert Murdoch, Rails Against ‘Foreign-Born Billionaires’

https://www.thedailybeast.com/tucke...-on-fox-news?source=articles&via=rss

and then at the same damn time:

Tucker Carlson All Out Embraces 'Great Replacement' Theory

https://www.yahoo.com/news/tucker-carlson-embraces-great-replacement-035147356.html

and yea there's video so yall can see for yourselves if somehow the written article is "lol libtard biased".

we all know white conservatives are scared about being a minority demographic simply because they don't want to be treated the same way they treated minorities in this country throughout history.

i mean it's pretty pathetic they think that, but it also says a whooooole lot about them actually knowing their history and trying to rewrite it.

The socialists are at it again. Giving away free money when employers are having trouble filling job vacancies.


DeSantis uses federal COVID-19 relief funds to send nearly 60,000 Florida families a $450-per-child check to 'offset the costs of rising inflation'
Katie Anthony
Thu, July 21, 2022, 11:09 AM

Thousands of Florida families will receive one-time checks for $450 per child starting this week.

Gov. Ron DeSantis announced he set aside $35.5 million of COVID-19 relief funds to send out the checks.

The stimulus is aimed at offsetting the costs of inflation, according to state officials.

Thousands of low-income Florida families are expected to receive relief checks to help offset inflation costs.

Gov. Ron DeSantis' administration on Thursday announced he's re-allocating some COVID-19 relief funds and sending $450 per child directly to struggling families in the state.

"This one-time payment assists families who are being affected by rising inflation and preparing to send their children back-to-school," Laura Walthall, spokesperson for the Florida Department of Children and Families, said in a statement to Insider.

The governor has set aside $35.5 million from the state's $1 billion American Rescue Plan Act to send out the checks, according to an announcement from Florida First Lady Casey DeSantis.

Eligible recipients include foster parents, relative and non-relative caregivers, and families recieving funds from the Florida Temporary Assistance for Needy Families program or Guardianship Assistance Program, according to Walthall.

Florida's Department of Children and Families said they expect around 59,000 families to receive the check, and, like other COVID-19 relief funds, there's no application.


https://news.yahoo.com/desantis-uses-federal-covid-19-150914873.html

How do they caveat that so it doesn't classify as a misappropriation of funds? Maybe they don't have to...I'm just thinking about what would happen to me if I used procurement funds to fund R&D. Jail central.

Also, I thought a lot on the right were just complaining that these types of stimulii were what was causing the job opening glut and inflation happening in the first place? I guess it's just a matter of "who" and not "what?"

Well yeah, that's what they claim. You know, they're still living high on the hog on unemployment benefits that ended last September and a one time $1400 dollar stimulus check from last year. I'm not sure these people even hear themselves.

More 2020 voter fraud news.....

Barry Morphew pleads guilty to using missing wife's ballot to vote for Trump in 2020

https://www.cbsnews.com/colorado/ne...-wifes-ballot-to-vote-for-trump-in-2020/

Conspiracy-promoting sheriffs claim vast election authority

TOPEKA, Kan. (AP) — The sheriff in Kansas’ most populous county says he took it for granted that local elections ran smoothly — until former President Donald Trump lost there in 2020.

Now he’s assigned detectives to investigate what he claims is election fraud, even though there has been no evidence of any widespread fraud or manipulation of voting machines in 2020. Calvin Hayden in Johnson County, which covers suburban Kansas City, isn’t the only sheriff in the U.S. to try to carve out a bigger role for their office in investigating elections.

Promoters of baseless conspiracy theories that the last presidential election was stolen from Trump are pushing a dubious theory that county sheriffs can access voting machines and intervene in how elections are run — and also have virtually unchecked power in their counties.

Voting-rights advocates and election experts said any attempts by law enforcement to interfere in elections would be alarming and an extension of the threat posed by the continued circulation of Trump’s lies about the 2020 election.

“What we have seen time and again is that those who support the ‘Big Lie’ find conduits to groups of people who they think can help perpetuate this conspiracy theory and erode confidence in elections and potentially cast doubt on them going forward,” said David Levine, a former election official who is now a fellow with the Alliance for Securing Democracy, a nonpartisan institute with staff in Washington and Brussels whose mission involves combatting efforts to undermine democratic institutions.

To be sure, law enforcement can play an important role in elections by sharing intelligence, protecting election workers and equipment, and investigating potential election crimes. But that is typically done after election administrators request the help.

Hayden appeared at the “FreedomFest” in Las Vegas earlier this month, held by the Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association, although his office said he is not a member of the group.

Onstage with him were sheriffs Dar Leaf of Barry County in southwest Michigan and Chris Schmaling of Racine County in Wisconsin, south of Milwaukee. Both say they are investigating election fraud claims, and both accuse state officials of violating election laws.

“We’ve been educating ourselves about elections,” Hayden told the gathering. “I’ve sent my detectives through — I’ve got a cyber guy. I sent him through to start evaluating what’s going on with the machines.”

Hayden, a Republican, did not elaborate and declined to be interviewed this week, citing what he said was his ongoing investigation. State and local election officials in Kansas said his office has not gained access to voting machines, and other Johnson County officials said there are no indications of any problems with the 2020 elections there.

The constitutional sheriffs’ group declares on its website that a sheriff’s power in a county is greater than that of any other official and “even supersedes the powers of the President.” Leaf filed a lawsuit in June against Michigan’s attorney general and secretary of state, accusing them of trying to stifle his investigation. He said a sheriff “has no superiors in his county.”

The “constitutional sheriffs” movement has gained visibility in recent years, as some sheriffs — including Hayden — resisted enforcing mask or vaccination requirements during the coronavirus pandemic.

“All of a sudden, it’s like the lights went on. It’s the sheriffs,” said Catherine Engelbrecht, founder of the election-conspiracy group True the Vote, speaking as part of a panel at the recent constitutional sheriffs gathering in Las Vegas. “That’s who can do these investigations. That’s who we can trust.”

It’s not clear how many sheriffs are part of the movement, though the national group’s founder, Richard Mack, said last year that about 300 of the nation’s 3,000 sheriffs were members, according to The Washington Post. Mack did not respond this week to telephone and email requests for an interview.

“It’s like a lot of these theories — it legally has no basis whatsoever,” said Stephen McAllister, the top federal prosecutor for Kansas during most of the Trump administration. “They are subject to state law. They are certainly subject to federal law. They are not sort of supreme little kings within their counties, whether they think so or not.”

Hayden said in a public statement that since the fall of 2021, he has received more than 200 tips alleging fraud in local elections. He said his department has a legal obligation to investigate “any criminal claim.”

But a memo from Peg Trent, Johnson County’s chief legal counsel, suggested Hayden went further in a July 5 meeting with her and county election officials.

Trent said Hayden questioned the use of ballot drop boxes at libraries, called for limiting the hours they would be available and offered to have his staff pick up the ballots. She said his staff also asked to have a deputy in the room as ballots are counted.

“As we discussed, my concern is that these requests give the appearance that the Sheriff’s office is attempting to interfere with an election,” she wrote in the July 7 memo, sent to Hayden, county commissioners and the county manager.

Hayden issued a statement that he would “whole-heartedly disagree” with her account of the meeting.

There is no evidence to support Trump’s claims of a stolen election in 2020 or to suggest widespread fraud or tampering with voting machines or ballot drop boxes. Dozens of legal claims made by Trump and his allies after the election were rejected by judges, including ones appointed by Trump.

“With the exception of a tiny handful of individual cases of voter fraud around the country, there is absolutely no reason to suspect that a crime was committed in 2020 with regard to the election,” said David Becker, a former U.S. Department of Justice attorney and election law expert who now leads the Center for Election Innovation and Research.

But false claims have sowed doubt among many Republican voters, triggered death threats to election officials and led to a host of new voting restrictions in GOP-controlled states. Trump allies have sought access to voting equipment and turned the normally routine process of certifying election results contentious.

“The danger of anyone embracing a conspiracy theory is the loss of confidence in election results,” said Chris Harvey, the former state elections director in Georgia. “It’s an added danger if it’s law enforcement. Their job is to enforce laws and maintain order. If they are seen as not having confidence in what’s going on, it’s just going to further trickle down into society.”

Harvey is part of a new group bringing together election officials and law enforcement. The Committee for Safe and Secure Elections is comprised of 32 current and former election and law enforcement officials, with a goal of build stronger relationships and providing training.

Kansas Secretary of State Scott Schwab, the state’s top election official, said Hayden has not contacted his office as part of his investigation. Schwab has repeatedly said he is confident that state elections ran well in 2020.

“I think overwhelmingly people trust the election system,” he said.

Hayden said during the Las Vegas gathering that his concerns about election fraud were piqued after Democrat Joe Biden carried Johnson County in the 2020 presidential election because the county had consistently “voted Republican” for more than a century. But that argument — made by election conspiracy promoters — ignores that Democrats have carried Johnson County multiple times in governor’s races during that time, including in Laura Kelly’s winning campaign in 2018.

Republicans maintain their traditional advantage in voter registration there, but Johnson County is more Democratic than it was 30 years ago.

“Johnson County going for Biden — well, that’s not an anomaly,” said Davis Hammet, leader of the Kansas voting-rights group Loud Light. “That happened in suburban counties all across the country.”

https://apnews.com/article/voting-r...9qujgWiZxo--34EL2I-tt-Nn7WhSQhu3kD3LxTdE


The inmates have taken over the asylum.

Matt Gaetz: Women Who 'Look Like A Thumb' Shouldn't Gripe About Abortion Rights
Mary Papenfuss
Sat, July 23, 2022, 9:23 PM·3 min read

Unattractive women who “look like a thumb” shouldn’t complain about losing abortion rights because they’re the “least” likely to get pregnant, Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) said in a jaw-dropping speech to college students at a conservative conference in Florida on Saturday.

“Have you watched these pro-abortion, pro-murder rallies?” Gaetz asked the crowd at the Turning Point USA Student Action Summit in Tampa. “The people are just disgusting. Why is it that the women with the least likelihood of getting pregnant are the ones most worried about having abortions?”

Video of the speech has received at least one million views on Twitter.

“Nobody wants to impregnate you if you look like a thumb. These people are odious from the inside out,” the congressman continued. “They’re like 5′2″, 350 pounds, and they’re like, ‘Give me my abortions or I’ll get up and march and protest.’”

“A few of them need to get up and march — they need to get up and march for like an hour a day. Swing those arms, get the blood pumpin’, maybe mix in a salad.”



https://www.yahoo.com/news/matt-gaetz-women-look-thumb-012346149.html

To this turd, anyone who is older than 14 probably 'looks like a thumb.'


Florida man Matt Gaetz: "Your daughters are safe the minute they graduate high school. Trust me."

A large segment of MAGAts think this way.

Matt Gaetz says pro-choice women who 'look like a thumb' don't need to worry about getting pregnant, video rant shows

Rep. Matt Gaetz mocked the physical appearances of women who are against the overturning of Roe V. Wade during a speech at a conservative conference in Florida on Saturday night.

Speaking to college students at the Turning Point USA Student Action Summit in Tampa, Gaetz referred to pro-choice women at rallies as "disgusting" and "odious on the inside and out."

Gaetz then argued that ugly women shouldn't be the ones to worry about access to abortions.

He said: "Why is that the women with the least likelihood of getting pregnant are the ones most worried about having abortions?"

Gaetz continued to make of pro-choice women, saying: "Nobody wants to impregnate you if you look like a thumb."

The Florida congressman sneered at women who are "5-foot-2 and 350 pounds" and marched in protests against the Supreme Court's overturning of Roe V. Wade — the 50-year-old case that federally legalized abortions.

He said: "I'm thinking, march? You look like you've got ankles weaker than the legal reasoning behind Roe V. Wade."

Gaetz continued: "They need to get up and march for like an hour a day, swing those arms, get the blood pumping, maybe mix in a salad."

The speech was slammed by feminist media outlet Jezebel which referred to it as "cartoonishly misogynist."

Jezebel noted that Gaetz, who the Justice Department is investigating over whether he violated federal sex trafficking laws with a 17-year-old girl in 2019, has previously ridiculed women protesting against the abortion ruling.

In May, Gaetz tweeted: "How many of the women rallying against overturning Roe are over-educated, under-loved millennials who sadly return from protests to a lonely microwave dinner with their cats, and no bumble matches?"

Insider reached out to Gaetz for comment on Sunday morning but did not immediately receive a response.

https://www.businessinsider.com/mat...7g-Sq_Xp9L4c3AOJoGWJKqwEdwRAcTywfzDPTw_M

Man charged with threatening to kill ‘all of the Black people’ at a Tops market in Buffalo

In the call, Joey David George also allegedly threatened to target Black people at the nearby Tops grocery store where a white gunman killed 10 Black people in May.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/man-charged-threatening-kill-black-people-tops-market-buffalo-rcna39614

Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene Says GOP 'Should Be Christian Nationalists' Party

https://www.yahoo.com/news/rep-marjorie-taylor-greene-says-202722384.html

republican voters will claim she doesn't represent the majority of them, yet more and more of the republican politicians get voted it, and say even more craziness than before.
and whats worse is that they actually mean it. they really do want the gop to be a christian nationalist party.

can't blame liberals for these nut cases. SOMEBODY claiming to hate "both sides" voted these psychos into office.

I at least appreciate her transparency now.

Did you think I was lying when I called them Christo-fascists? Smh.

Kinzinger says Trump is becoming 'irrelevant' and that GOP voters are 'being abused'
Taiyler Simone Mitchell
Sun, July 24, 2022, 7:36 PM

Kinzinger says Trump is becoming 'irrelevant' and that GOP voters are 'being abused'
House Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the U.S. Capitol member Rep. Adam Kinzinger (R-IL) (L) and Vice Chairwoman Rep. Liz Cheney (R-WY) deliver opening remarks during a prime-time hearing in the Cannon House Office Building on July 21, 2022 in Washington, DC.

House Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the U.S. Capitol member Rep. Adam Kinzinger (R-IL) (L) and Vice Chairwoman Rep. Liz Cheney (R-WY) deliver opening remarks during a prime-time hearing in the Cannon House Office Building on July 21, 2022 in Washington, DC.Photo by Tasos Katopodis/Getty Images
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Rep. Adam Kinzinger argued that "Trumpism isn't dying" on ABC News' "This Week."

He also told Republican voters that some GOP leaders are lying to them.

His remarks came after the Jan. 6 committee began airing details of Trump's involvement in the Capitol riot.

After he acknowledged the power and longevity of "Trumpism," Rep. Adam Kinzinger argued some members of the Republican party were taking advantage of pro-Trump voters by lying to them.


"Trumpism isn't dying, even though Trump is becoming irrelevant," the Illinois Republican said Sunday on ABC News' "This Week." I am hearing a lot of anecdotal stuff, around the edges, of people who've been hardcore with Trump that now just can't stand him."

His remarks come after the January 6 House Select Committee — of which he is one of two Republican members — has investigated and aired details about the 2021 attack on the Capitol. Kinzinger said he believes the committee has "proven" enough for the Department of Justice to incriminate Trump.

"I think the long term...in like five years, I still believe it's going to be hard to find someone that will ever admit they were ever a Trump supporter, and I think this is where this impact comes, in future history," Kinzinger added.

To those who still hold Trump in high esteem, Kinzinger said: "You are being abused."


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He insisted that Trump voters could direct their anger at him and Rep. Liz Cheney — the two Republicans on the January 6 committee — but maintained that "We're not the ones lying to you. It's the people you think are telling you what you want to hear. They're the liars, and [House Minority Leader] Kevin McCarthy is among them."

"Ladies and gentlemen and particularly my Republican friends, your leaders, by and large, have been lying to you. They know stuff very different than what they've been telling you. They know the election wasn't stolen, but they're going to send out fundraising requests, they're gonna take your money from you, and they're going to use you to stay in power," he added.




Kinzinger has decided not to run for re-election this year. H did not immediately respond to Insider's request for comment.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/kinzinger-says-trump-becoming-irrelevant-233615877.html

My concern is that Kinsinger is a lone voice in a howling wind, and that things will continue along our current trajectory.

For as long as I've been alive, there has always been a GOP. I don't recognize it any more.