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I think we might look outside the roster for a few spots. This is what I think we will look like at final cuts
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Cooper DPJ Bell Schwartz Woods Felton
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Njoku Bryant Forristal
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Chubb Hunt Johnson Ford
QB
Brissett Dobbs
O line
Wills Bitonio Polic Teller Conklin Hubbard Hudson Dunn
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Garrett Elliott Bryan Clowney Wright Thomas Winfrey Togiai
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JOK Phillips Takitaki Walker Fields
CB
Ward Newsome Williams Emerson Green
Safety
Johnson Delpit Harrison Bell LeCounte
Special Teams
York Hughlett Cody B.
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Stanton FB/TE Winovich DE Miller CB Logan DT
I think Rochelle has a chance to make the roster as a DE and Allen at LB
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I wonder if we try to upgrade the 3rd QB spot (Streveler from the Jets is intriguing and probably fits what we want to do with Dobbs)
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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I agree with most of your list. I think Isaac Rochell makes the team. LeCounte could be a goner. Still think either Hunt or Johnson is traded before the start of the season and that would open up a spot for Stefanski to keep a FB (Stanton).
Probably a toss up on who they keep when it comes to Bell, Herb Miller and LeCounte. It's fun to have a guy named Herb on the team.
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I would say that Stanton is a near lock and that 8 isn’t enough guys in the offensive line.
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Quite frankly the reason I went with eight is I couldn’t figure out who should be number 9. Maybe Hance?
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Quite frankly the reason I went with eight is I couldn’t figure out who should be number 9. Maybe Hance? I would say Hance. He’s played in games for the team and has been taking reps at center.
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Agree on Hance. Also, Alex Taylor and Drew Forbes are possibilities to earn a spot.
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Looks like a good list to me. Maybe Hance over Fields? Maybe Stanton makes it instead of Forrestal?
I'd personally prefer another corner, but that's just me.
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Do we even have 6 WR worthy of keeping??
Browns is the Browns
... there goes Joe Thomas, the best there ever was in this game.
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I had 6 corners (Miller as a bubble player making the team) and 5 safeties making it. I don’t think Logan makes it to the 1st game. Somebody will take his spot. I should have probably put Hance on as well since I only had 8 oline and that is a deep position group. I have Fields because of special teams but Allen might take his spot. .
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Do we even have 6 WR worthy of keeping?? Not sure. I put Woods on this list because he was a draft pick that was lightning it up before the hammy. Fenton didn’t play much in preseason but as of now I believe he is our kick, punt returner. Harley might be a surprise make. Schwartz is a lock but I don’t think he is very good. The last three I believe deserve roster spots
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I wasn't critiquing your list at all. You did a way better job than I would have. I just like football talk and thought I would throw my less than $0.02 in. I think you did a really good job w/your list.
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I know you weren’t. I just have been itching to talk about this team so I responded with some of my beliefs. .
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Critiques are welcomed by all. Made this for a discussion.
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Do we even have 6 WR worthy of keeping?? I expect it to be (barring a trade): Cooper DPJ Schwartz Bell Woods Felton Possibly Woods starts the season on PUP and they give another guy a look. WR group is a glaring weakness.
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One of the reasons I think they’re not inclined to trade Hunt is his pass catching.
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Do we even have 6 WR worthy of keeping?? I expect it to be (barring a trade): Cooper DPJ Schwartz Bell Woods Felton Possibly Woods starts the season on PUP and they give another guy a look. WR group is a glaring weakness. Woods has practiced with the team , and thus is not eligible for the PUP list. PUP is for guys who report injured, or otherwise unable to practice.
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Do we even have 6 WR worthy of keeping?? I expect it to be (barring a trade): Cooper DPJ Schwartz Bell Woods Felton Possibly Woods starts the season on PUP and they give another guy a look. WR group is a glaring weakness. I suspect we'll be seeing a ton of 12 personnel, again.
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Do we even have 6 WR worthy of keeping?? I expect it to be (barring a trade): Cooper DPJ Schwartz Bell Woods Felton Possibly Woods starts the season on PUP and they give another guy a look. WR group is a glaring weakness. Woods has practiced with the team , and thus is not eligible for the PUP list. PUP is for guys who report injured, or otherwise unable to practice. He might have meant putting him on IR after final cuts
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Yep. IR designated for return....if it should come to that. He has time to heal up still.
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I heard there is an old adage that goes, You are only as good as your 3rd wide receiver. ( I heard that on a Chargers podcast so, it's not just me saying it.)
Can Deshaun Watson play better for the Browns, than Baker Mayfield would have? ... Now the Games count.
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It's hard to say at receiver...has Woods done anything? I just don't know. I thought Harley has looked good. He seems to be able to catch.
I am not a big fullack guy, but Stanton can fill in as a 3rd TE/H-back player. I'd also say he could be an emergency QB having played the position in college. If we don't carry a 3rd QB, he might be an important player to keep.
I'd also say the bottom of the roster will be very fluid this year. I think we will have a keen eye on wide receivers/returners and interior D line players who are cut loose. I also expect to see us trade one of our running backs before the season starts. Make a choice between Hunt and DJ...extend one for 2-3 years, trade the other.
Or let them make the choice for us. Hand the same offer to both, the first to agree gets the job, the other is traded.
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One thing about the "Final 53" is that it isn't final. Each year, teams get down to their final 53 and then claim a guy or three off of waivers and then cut guys to make room for the new guys. I always thought that it would have to be extra painful to think you made the team after the final cuts only to be dumped a day or two later for someone else who was cut by another team.
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I heard there is an old adage that goes, You are only as good as your 3rd wide receiver. ( I heard that on a Chargers podcast so, it's not just me saying it.) I think the first time I heard it was from Cris Collinsworth on a Sunday Night Football broadcast
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I think the Covid 2020 year, and last year showed that, the Cutdown to 53 players is something that really lost its luster because SO MANY players cut from the 53 still made the teams from the practice s@uad, and with the rotations of players onto things like the PS and the PUP, teams were really protecting about 58 or 59 players, and even then The amount of new signings and releases that happened or happens throughout the calendar that may not have been as prevalent years ago has made the Original 53 mean slightly less than it used to. ( I said slightly).
Can Deshaun Watson play better for the Browns, than Baker Mayfield would have? ... Now the Games count.
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I keep hearing we have a lot of talent here and I agree. However, our WR group right now on paper is average at best. Hopefully some of our young guys will step up or we can trade or pick up a guy or 2. Many are saying what a good D we have. I'm inclined to agree but our interior DL is below average at this juncture. Again, maybe our young guys will step up or we can get another couple of guys after cuts. Not being able to control the line and have teams run on us is bad news. We've seen this before. I'm tempering my enthusiasm right now. I made a prediction of 6-8 wins and last place in the North. DW missing 11 games and the weaknesses I mentioned are the reason why.
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That's the list I have too, with Rochell being the 5th DE plus Hance on the OL.
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Do we even have 6 WR worthy of keeping?? I’d say NO haha. It’s a really concerning group after Cooper. DPJ has been a good late round pick, but it’s a tall task asking him to be a #2 WR
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Do we even have 6 WR worthy of keeping?? I’d say NO haha. It’s a really concerning group after Cooper. DPJ has been a good late round pick, but it’s a tall task asking him to be a #2 WR This is one of the examples of why we will miss Watson so much while at the same time explains why we went after him despite all the trouble that came w/it. There are only a handful of qbs who can elevate those around them. They don't need superior talent around them. They don't need a great play call. They can make something out of nothing. They perform at a high level in pressure situations. Etc, etc. Watson is one of those guys. Brissett is not.
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Agreed. Elite QBs raise the level of WRs so much
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Offense: 25
-->OC), 1 55 C Ethan Pocic LSU 57 C Brock Hoffman Virginia Tech PS?
-->OG), 4 75 G Joel Bitonio Nevada 77 G Wyatt Teller Virginia Tech 62 G Blake Hance Northwestern 68 G Michael Dunn Maryland 79 G Drew Forbes Southeast Missouri State PS? 72 G Hjalte Froholdt Arkansas PS? 60 G David Moore Grambling State PS?
-->OT), 4 78 T Jack Conklin Michigan State 71 T Jedrick Wills Jr. Alabama 74 T Chris Hubbard Alabama-Birmingham 66 T James Hudson III Cincinnati 70 Alex Taylor South Carolina State PS? 67 T Ben Petrula Boston College PS?
-->RB), 4-5* 24 RB Nick Chubb Georgia 27 RB Kareem Hunt Toledo 30 RB D'Ernest Johnson South Florida 34 RB Jerome Ford Cincinnati 25 RB Demetric Felton Jr. UCLA 41 RB John Kelly Jr. Tennessee PS?
FB/TE), 1 40 Johnny Stanton Nevada-Las Vegas PS?
-->TE), 3*-4 88 TE Harrison Bryant Florida Atlantic 85 TE David Njoku Miami (Fla.) 86 TE Miller Forristall Alabama PS? 81 TE Zaire Mitchell-Paden PS? 89 TE Nakia Griffin-Stewart Pittsburgh PS?
-->QB), 2 4 QB Deshaun Watson Clemson **When available 7 QB Jacoby Brissett N.C. State 15 QB Joshua Dobbs Tennessee 19 Josh Rosen UCLA PS?
-->WR), 5*-6 2 WR Amari Cooper Alabama 18 WR David Bell Purdue 11 WR Donovan Peoples-Jones Michigan 12 WR Michael Woods II Oklahoma 10 WR Anthony Schwartz Auburn 82 WR Mike Harley Jr. Miami PS? 17 WR Daylen Baldwin Michigan PS? 16 WR Javon Wims Georgia PS?
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-->DE), 4-5* 90 DE Jadeveon Clowney South Carolina 95 DE Myles Garrett Texas A&M 94 DE Alex Wright UAB 58 DE Isaiah Thomas Oklahoma 98 DE Isaac Rochell Notre Dame 69 DE Chase Winovich Michigan PS? 61 DE Chris Odom Arkansas State PS? 59 DE Curtis Weaver Boise State PS?
-->DT), 4*-5 96 DT Jordan Elliott Missouri 99 DT Taven Bryan Florida 97 DT Perrion Winfrey Oklahoma 93 DT Tommy Togiai Ohio State? 94 DT Roderick Perry II PS? 63 DT Glen Logan LSU PS?
-->LB), *5-6 28 LB Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah Notre Dame 50 LB Jacob Phillips LSU 44 LB Sione Takitaki BYU 5 LB Anthony Walker Jr. Northwestern 42 LB Tony Fields II West Virginia 56 Dakota Allen Texas Tech PS? 54 LB Willie Harvey Jr. Iowa State PS? 51 LB Jordan Kunaszyk California PS?
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I get sick every time I look at our DTs.
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I get sick every time I look at our DTs. That seems to be the consensus to all but the Coaches and the FO. Reminds me of a couple of seasons ago with our then Safety room ... I hope things turn out more favorable with our DT position then with that group.
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Defensive tackle will be interesting to watch how the position is handled.
We have all heard about Elliott being poised to have a good year. Bryan I have not seen.
After that it is looking lean.
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I get sick every time I look at our DTs. Lol honestly same here
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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I wonder if Thomas pans out the way I think he might, if we would put him on one Edge and either Myles or Clowney on the other and then shift the remaining guy inside on passing downs?
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I wonder if Thomas pans out the way I think he might, if we would put him on one Edge and either Myles or Clowney on the other and then shift the remaining guy inside on passing downs? From what I keep reading, I think they would do that with Thomas and Wright.
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I wonder if Thomas pans out the way I think he might, if we would put him on one Edge and either Myles or Clowney on the other and then shift the remaining guy inside on passing downs? Alex Wrights lone sack this preseason came from DT iirc...
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