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Only spots I really care about is WR.

As bad as Schwartz is, I don't think Berry is gonna give up on him just yet. SMH.


Cooper
DPJ
Bell
Schwartz
Woods
Felton

What I'd really like to see is:
Cooper
DPJ
Bell
Harley
Wims
Felton

Woods starts out on PUP.


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We need to seriously consider signing any WR that is cut by PIT and/or CIN to get to their 53...maybe the same can be said for their DTs - add BAL to that list for DTs.

Cooper - Bell - DPJ

The rest could be replaced tonight and we wouldn't miss a beat.

I agree with you in the sense that Wims and Harley looked better than many of the others.

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But when was the last time DPJ looked good?


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Schwartz and Felton both look bad to me.

I'm not sure what Felton brings to the table other than being able to line up at WR. Hell, I can do that.

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I’d cut Felton and Schwartz in lieu of other teams’ cuts … I think we can upgrade the two of them very easily.

Heck, Cole Beasley can be a huge upgrade over Felton right now


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I think we could cut Schwartz AND Felton and no one would sign them - and I wouldn't care if they did.

J Kelly is a much better RB than Felton...Wims is a better WR than Felton...Felton does absolutely nothing special. As Rishuz stated ^...so he can line up at WR...so could Winfrey. So he's "versatile"...make him the 17th DB too...why not? He won't be worth a dime there either.

Schwartz needs a lot more time and was a very poor draft pick reach in the 3rd. He'd slide to our PS if we even want to keep him. He got a lot of run and continued to not deliver.

We have an embarrassment of non-riches at WR and DT...again.

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Beasley would be a massive upgrade to Felton.

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Beasley would be a massive upgrade to every receiver on the Browns except maybe Amari Cooper.
But we're going off of memories of Beasley catching passes from Josh Allen.

Anyone excited to see the upcoming season,
or more excited for it to be over, because it's a sure thing it will be a massive letdown of piling up losses.

Brissett, Mathmatically,
his NFL so far, if you mathematically take his
Starts, Td's, ints. and yards, and win loss ratio is
mathematically due for about
2900 yards on the season
an average game of 0.97- touchdowns, So one touchdown pass per game (excuse me, PER START)
an average game of 0.457? interceptions (my memories from last night) so about I/2 an interception per game, (PER START)
but the big one is
an average of 0.37, 37% chance to get a win in a start. SO, that figures out to 4-7 in the win loss column through II games. Mathmatically
(So Far Brissett has done in his NFL Career) (He's 29 years old)

And he's never played for a team that resides in the AFC North which Rips @uarterbacks a new (you know) on the regular.
So
Who's excited for the upcoming season Woo Hoo \0/

I see 2 likely wins on the Browns schedule. The Falcons, and it's 60-40 vs. the Jets.
There are no other likely wins on the Browns schedule. It's entirely possible they are winless going the entire way.


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Browns 53-man roster prediction: Who’s in and who’s out before Tuesday’s final roster cuts

Published: Aug. 28, 2022, 12:30 p.m.
Cleveland Browns training camp day 12, August 14, 2022
Kevin Stefanski and Andrew Berry have some tough decisions to make between now and Tuesday afternoon.John Kuntz, cleveland.com


By Dan Labbe, cleveland.com
CLEVELAND, Ohio -- The Browns have until 4 p.m. on Tuesday to reduce their roster to 53 players. They’re practicing on Tuesday at 3 p.m., so it’s safe to assume they’ll have their roster trimmed well in advance.

After watching practice since the middle of May and sitting through three preseason games, here is a guess as to what the Browns initial 53-man roster will look like:

Quarterback (2): Jacoby Brissett, Joshua Dobbs


Deshaun Watson will move to the suspended list, clearing the way for the Browns to keep Brissett and Dobbs as their two quarterbacks. A third quarterback could land on the practice squad or, if someone becomes available via waivers, boot someone else from another position.

Running back (4): Nick Chubb, Jerome Ford, Kareem Hunt, D’Ernest Johnson

Johnson could be a trade candidate, but there’s no reason to not put him on the 53-man roster if he isn’t traded. You could even make a case for John Kelly Jr. to make it if you wanted. Another name to watch is Johnny Stanton IV, who you won’t see on this 53-man roster, but if they want a fullback, he’s the guy.


Wide receiver (6): David Bell, Amari Cooper, Demetric Felton Jr., Donovan Peoples-Jones, Anthony Schwartz, Michael Woods II

Keeping Schwartz won’t be popular, but Kevin Stefanski said after Saturday’s game Schwartz is not in danger of being cut. The Browns don’t appear ready to give up on their 2021 third-round pick just yet and a thin receiver room overall gives them that ability. There’s no reason they can’t sneak a Mike Harley Jr. or Javon Wims onto the practice squad.

Tight end (3): Harrison Bryant, Miller Forristall, David Njoku

This feels obvious. Njoku and Bryant are in Sharpie and Forristall has consistenly been the No. 3 guy.


Interior offensive line (5): Joel Bitonio, Michael Dunn, Hjalte Froholdt, Ethan Pocic, Wyatt Teller

It’s Pocic, Bitonio and Teller starting inside with Dunn doing most of the work as the backup center. Froholdt can play center or guard.

Offenive tackle (5): Jack Conklin, Chris Hubbard, James Hudson III, Alex Taylor, Jedrick Wills Jr.

The bottom of this group is where I feel the least confident. Hubbard was my last player on the offensive side of the ball and it’s notable Taylor played tackle early on Saturday night while Hubbard deals with an injury. There wasn’t a skill guy I was willing to pound the table for in place of keeping 10 linemen.


Edge rusher (6): Jadeveon Clowney, Myles Garrett, Isaac Rochell, Isaiah Thomas, Chase Winovich, Alex Wright


Winovich, who has been out with an injury, was my last man to make it defensively as a sixth edge rusher. The two rookies, Thomas and Wright, were gimmes. Rochell has been working first team alongside Wright when Garrett and Clowney have been out.

Defensive tackle (4): Taven Bryan, Jordan Elliott, Tommy Togiai, Perrion Winfrey

This group is razor thin, but Elliott has been earning rave reviews this summer. Winfrey hasn’t looked like someone ready to contribute right away, but he’s not going anywhere. It helps to have edge rushers who can slide inside on passing downs, but if one of the top two guys gets hurt, this group is in trouble.

Linebacker (5): Tony Fields II, Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah, Jacob Phillips, Sione Takitaki, Anthony Walker Jr.

I found a way to keep Fields for his special teams work and the remaining group of linebackers behind him didn’t excite me. He won’t get much work on defense, however, if the top four ahead of him stay healthy. This group has a chance to be fun.


Cornerback (6): Martin Emerson Jr., A.J. Green, Herb Miller, Greg Newsome II, Denzel Ward, Greedy Williams

The bottom of this group is tough. Miller made it here for his special teams work. Green has been working in the slot and it’s hard to see him getting waived if he’s healthy.

Safety (4): D’Anthony Bell, Grant Delpit, Ronnie Harrison Jr., John Johnson III

With Harrison out due to injury on Saturday night, Bell was the third safety and the player who replaced Delpit when he left with a hip injury. It tells me Bell has passed Richard LeCounte III and makes me feel comfortable putting him on this roster.

Specialists (3): Corey Bojorquez (P), Charley Hughlett (LS), Cade York (K)

The only intrigue here went away after the second preseason game when the Browns sent punter Joseph Charlton packing. I know the Muni Lot is fun, but getting to the stadium early to watch York warm up is worth missing out on one last brat and beer.


https://www.cleveland.com/browns/20...t-before-tuesdays-final-roster-cuts.html

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Whoa. That is a CRAZY signature, picture,
Picture of all eleven Browns head coaches since I999 and Stefanski in the middle as the I2th man.
It is Erie

They'd never let someone fly that as a banner/sign in the stadium. But Could you imagine.

Really, What hope does Stefanski have if some (??whomever) is forcing things like Starting Schwartz onto him. None that's what.


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Denzel Mims had a good day today with the Jets and he’s almost certainly going to be traded/released.

I’d feel much better about our WR corps if we were Cooper, DPJ, Mims, Beasley, and then went after 1 more guy from FA


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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When i saw his name I actually forgot he was still with us


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life
Denzel Mims had a good day today with the Jets and he’s almost certainly going to be traded/released.

I’d feel much better about our WR corps if we were Cooper, DPJ, Mims, Beasley, and then went after 1 more guy from FA

And Bell I presume?

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Pre-emptive strike to make sure we get him on our PS?

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Yes for sure


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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I thought Wims looked decent.

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I had hoped Wims would make it.

I did espouse the idea of putting Schwartz on a bus to Chicago so they could make him walk home.

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Originally Posted by Versatile Dog
I thought Wims looked decent.
Same here. He made a few difficult plays. I can’t imagine we’re going to roll with what we have


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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I thought Wims looked decent.
Same here. He made a few difficult plays. I can’t imagine we’re going to roll with what we have

Be is specifically for a WR or not, I can see us "trading" one or two of our bottom of the roster players for a few players who get cut from other teams.

I am also banking on a trade of DJ. Maybe soon...like today or tomorrow. If it is before the final cuts it will probably be for a player. If after the cuts it will be for a pick.

I kept him in one of my money leagues. From a fantasy standpoint it makes no sense to keep DJ if he is a member of the Browns. If he or Hunt get traded, it does.

Even from the Browns standpoint it makes no sense to keep a stacked RB room. We could easily trade one of our backs, who isn't going to play and get a player at a position where they could help us win games. We won't miss a beat by making a trade. I'll go so far as to say it is stupid to keep that many backs and will make me question if Berry is all that interested in improving the roster.

If these guys think Schwartz is all that good, maybe we need to reassess who needs to be cut?


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I think we’ll trade a RB as well. I also understand why they are so steadfast on keeping Schwartz (even though I disagree with it), but at some point that decision will have to be made and I’d rather have us upgrade over him before the season begins


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life
I think we’ll trade a RB as well. I also understand why they are so steadfast on keeping Schwartz (even though I disagree with it), but at some point that decision will have to be made and I’d rather have us upgrade over him before the season begins

Put yourself in Berry's shoes. You drafted Schwartz for a reason. You actually spent a high pick on him. He's only going into his second season. You err on the side of he'll get it figured out. That's why you drafted him. Because you have high hopes for the kid. I don't think one mediocre season and one bad off season should necessarily change the long term outlook. Draff picks are made with multiple years in mind.

I'm not saying I 100% agree with it. But I can see the logic behind that, especially if the kid has a good attitude and works hard to get better.

I will say this, though. Drafting wide receivers does not appear to be a strength of Berry and his staff.

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Not arguing here. Few people complain about having just too much speed on the roster. But we haven't sorted much out at this point that I have seen. Did Berry draft that high to have a three-year project. How about that "body of work" we read about? One bad off-season, one mediocre season, and now a pre-season with little progress and even less flash. Did Berry draft a swell individual to be the designated pass dropper? Why has he been targeted so often? I just think this roster spot is an error, especially without a doubt status. Has he earned starter status? I can hope he changes my mind. But our WR room is maybe our worst at this point in time.


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Yeah WR drafting has been poor here in Cleveland for a pretty long time. Who’s the last good WR we’ve drafted?

Compare it to Pittsburgh where they basically churn them out


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Yeah WR drafting has been poor here in Cleveland for a pretty long time. Who’s the last good WR we’ve drafted?

Compare it to Pittsburgh where they basically churn them out

We should take a good look at whomever the Steelers or Bengals cut at WR. Just like OL-needy teams will be vulcher-ing over whomever we cut at OL...and maybe even DB

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I think we’ll trade a RB as well. I also understand why they are so steadfast on keeping Schwartz (even though I disagree with it), but at some point that decision will have to be made and I’d rather have us upgrade over him before the season begins

Put yourself in Berry's shoes. You drafted Schwartz for a reason. You actually spent a high pick on him. He's only going into his second season. You err on the side of he'll get it figured out. That's why you drafted him. Because you have high hopes for the kid. I don't think one mediocre season and one bad off season should necessarily change the long term outlook. Draff picks are made with multiple years in mind.

I'm not saying I 100% agree with it. But I can see the logic behind that, especially if the kid has a good attitude and works hard to get better.

I will say this, though. Drafting wide receivers does not appear to be a strength of Berry and his staff.

I believe Berry is yet to cut one of his draft picks...while being anxious to sign FAs form other teams who didn't live up to their high-pick expectations.

To your point, I understand why GM-types are reluctant to cut "their" guys. I think most GMs have that bias. It's not nefarious as they believe (hopefully) in their scouts and evaluations and likely TRULY believe their guy(s) will figure it out. However, I doubt any team would covet Schwartz - let alone sign the guy to their 53. IMO he would be there to sign to our PS.

Conversely, we have some bubble guys that IMO other teams might snatch up for their 53. Brock Hoffman, Alex Taylor, Shaun Jolly and maybe even D Bell (S) to name a few. I'd hate to lose a guy like Hoffman during roster-gymnastics while protecting a still-developmental guy like Schwartz.

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Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life
Yeah WR drafting has been poor here in Cleveland for a pretty long time. Who’s the last good WR we’ve drafted?

Compare it to Pittsburgh where they basically churn them out

We should take a good look at whomever the Steelers or Bengals cut at WR. Just like OL-needy teams will be vulcher-ing over whomever we cut at OL...and maybe even DB
I think the Bucs also have a deep WR room


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I was looking at the Steelers WRs.
Stephen Sims had 2 TDs and a nice jet sweep for 37 yds.
He is looking up at Johnson , Claypool, Pickens, and Olzecksi
He might be cut

Then the Bengals have 2 young WRs that outplayed Schwartz
This preseason...
Kendric Pryor and Kwame Lassiter...both went over 100 yds
Receiving this preseason. I think Pryor went 13 for 171.

If Berry can't cut Schwartz then his ego is superceding the will
To win. Instead of him saying " I was wrong about Schwartz"
And trying to add a upgrade , he rather look like the smartest
Guy in the room.

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Originally Posted by Iluvmyxstripper
I was looking at the Steelers WRs.
Stephen Sims had 2 TDs and a nice jet sweep for 37 yds.
He is looking up at Johnson , Claypool, Pickens, and Olzecksi
He might be cut

Then the Bengals have 2 young WRs that outplayed Schwartz
This preseason...
Kendric Pryor and Kwame Lassiter...both went over 100 yds
Receiving this preseason. I think Pryor went 13 for 171.

If Berry can't cut Schwartz then his ego is superceding the will
To win. Instead of him saying " I was wrong about Schwartz"
And trying to add a upgrade , he rather look like the smartest
Guy in the room.


I'm beginning to be concerned about your point in that last paragraph.

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At WR I'd keep Cooper, DPJ, Bell & Woods. There will be another teams' castoff(s) (two hopefully) that are as good as anyone we cut....which is scary given that the NFL is a passing league...and I don't see any of the guys we cut being coveted. I expect Woods to go straight to short-term IR.

At TE I'd keep Njoku & Harrison. See the above explanation and finding another guy after cuts.

At RB I'd keep Chubb, Hunt, Ford & DEJ. If we trade one of those (4) I'm keeping Kelly. If we cut Felton, no one is signing him and I don't care if they do.

At OL I'd keep Wills, Bitonio, Pocic, Teller, Conklin, Hubbard, Hudson, Taylor (yes, Taylor), Dunn, Hoffman & Forbes/Hjolte. I know that's (11), but I expect Conklin to go straight to short-term IR. I hope we trade one our OL riches and I expect some roster shenanigans - like cutting Hubbard and immediately resigning him.

QB - JB...maybe even cut Dobbs and turn right around and resign him = more roster shenanigans.

I've not yet really thought through the defense just yet. But I don't think we have a lot of guys we could cut and expect to be there after the initial cut-down - like we do at WR & TE - other than DT. (Day is still a FA.)

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He would not have been the guy I’d cut from the WR group


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I thought he would be the first guy released. His route running was horrible.

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I am assuming since Moffatt is gone that Bell is in


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Originally Posted by Rishuz
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I think we’ll trade a RB as well. I also understand why they are so steadfast on keeping Schwartz (even though I disagree with it), but at some point that decision will have to be made and I’d rather have us upgrade over him before the season begins

Put yourself in Berry's shoes. You drafted Schwartz for a reason. You actually spent a high pick on him. He's only going into his second season. You err on the side of he'll get it figured out. That's why you drafted him. Because you have high hopes for the kid. I don't think one mediocre season and one bad off season should necessarily change the long term outlook. Draff picks are made with multiple years in mind.

I'm not saying I 100% agree with it. But I can see the logic behind that, especially if the kid has a good attitude and works hard to get better.

I will say this, though. Drafting wide receivers does not appear to be a strength of Berry and his staff.

I understand all that as well. I also understand you can't build "team" when the players on the team know you cut players who should be there in favor of those who don't.

Some things you can teach and develop. Teaching a guy to catch at this point isn't one of them. I am not sure how long this guy has played football, but i am sure he has had a few coaches who tried to teach him that. Catching a friggen ball isn't some super secret that only a select few know how to do or teach. If you can't do it by the time you are the age of Schwartz, forget it, he can't do it.

Refining a player's skills is one thing. Trying to get him to accomplish the most basic of skills for his position is a waste of time and a roster spot. A NHL coach isn't out there trying to teach one of his players how to ice skate.


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I think the biggest question at this point in time is who is it that's demanding he stay on the roster? Is it Berry? Is it Stefanski? Is it both? Sometimes the GM can make roster calls that put a HC in a terrible position. Not saying for sure that's the case here. But it seems this team focuses a lot on analytics. That's not Stenfanski's specialty in terms of designated responsibilities.


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