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No, it's not his "specialty", but he's fully on-board with it. They're all on record as saying that while Berry, of course, has final say in this stuff, it is a collaborative effort. If Stefanski made a logical argument why one player should go and another should have his place, it would be heard and factored into the decisions. I highly doubt that Berry would outright make borderline calls without a heavy dose of input from his Head Coach, he just isn't that kinda guy.
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I would guess that it’s a joint decision to keep Schwartz, probably motivated by the analytical numbers that show how impactful his skill set can be to an offensive team
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I think the biggest question at this point in time is who is it that's demanding he stay on the roster? Is it Berry? Is it Stefanski? Is it both? Sometimes the GM can make roster calls that put a HC in a terrible position. Not saying for sure that's the case here. But it seems this team focuses a lot on analytics. That's not Stenfanski's specialty in terms of designated responsibilities. Don't look for Cleveland to get rid of Schwartz unless they can get another WR who can take the top off a defense. Without a WR who can burn a defense deep they will just crowd the line, load up the box and shut down our running game. We have to have one or two WR's who the defense has to respect to keep them honest. Unfortunately since Schwartz can't catch he is not scaring anybody
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So then it's Stefanski? See, by contrast I don't see Stefanski having a dog in the fight here. It wasn't he who made the decision to draft him and sign him. Barry was the man who made that commitment and bears responsibility for him being here. I just can't imagine a HC wanting to keep a WR on the roster who can't catch the ball. I'm not saying your wrong, I just can't make any sense out of it. To me it boils down to who actually has a vested interest in keeping a WR on the roster who can't catch the ball.
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While Schwartz had a 4.27 40 time in shorts it certainly hasn't translated to "taking the top off of a defense" in the NFL. I know that was the goal in drafting him but it hasn't been shown to happen.
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Of course it is. But not everyone sitting at the table is going to agree even when input from everyone is considered. Somebody has to make the call when that occurs. That is the boss. I've worked at places where everyone has input in the process. It's certainly a better environment than never having input. But to claim or believe everyone is on the same page in some of those meetings is not reality. And in the end when things like that occur, the highest ranking person in charge has the final say.
Are you suggesting that when people sit in on a meeting collaborating that they all agree on a certain outcome before the decision is made? Maybe I'm misunderstanding your intent here.
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release the ones that produce, keep the ones that don't. Because... potential. As Metallica sang, "Sad but true."
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I think you have to give him two years.
When picked he was a developmental player.
I know it has not looked good. But you have to be patient and give him some more time.
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I think you have to give him two years.
When picked he was a developmental player.
I know it has not looked good. But you have to be patient and give him some more time.
Or you cut him because he’s a sunk cost.
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While Schwartz had a 4.27 40 time in shorts it certainly hasn't translated to "taking the top off of a defense" in the NFL. I know that was the goal in drafting him but it hasn't been shown to happen. It's hard to take the top off when your QB has a bum shoulder. A lot of the preseason is putting players in uncomfortable situations and seeing how they respond. In the regular season, it's about doing what your players do well. Let's see how he does in real games. Deep shots and gadget plays are Schwartz comfort zone. Working the sideline on out routes isn't it, yet.
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I just watched the Bears game, was surprised Wims was cut, he made some catches. Harley looked good, I was not aware of his production in college.
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While Schwartz had a 4.27 40 time in shorts it certainly hasn't translated to "taking the top off of a defense" in the NFL. I know that was the goal in drafting him but it hasn't been shown to happen. Because he has had hands like
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I was thinking Quincy "no thumbs" Morgan.
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This is an interesting one.
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Tackles are tackles.
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This is an interesting one.
Surprising.
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I'm surprised about Hance...but...he's a G who "can" play OT. I wonder if this means Alex Taylor sticks to the 53?
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Browns were/are deep at the guard position. Drew Forbes was first off the bench, I’d assume he leapfrogged Hance.
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Stainbrook is killing it with all the roster moves information.
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Especially for a guy still in college!
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I liked what I saw from Jolly. Hope we can put him on the PS.
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I think we should bring Josh Gordon back. He's now available.
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As soon as we sign him Goodell will suspend him.
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I disagree. Wims was never going to make the team and Harley was a long shot at best. WR room: Cooper DPJ Bell Schwartz Woods Felton
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Looks like they are keeping all four RBs with this news, unless Hunt or Johnson are traded before the deadline.
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Bringing someone in from the outside seems to be more realistic as the day goes on?
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