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I think he was just named in a lawsuit. My gut tells me the two aren't connected, but it's curious timing.
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Any latest news on Perrion Winfrey? Last week's game was brutal for him. He was just plain awful. Consistently getting pushed back, especially in goal line situations where he would end up 3 yards into the end zone against 3rd stringers. No QB pressure against 3rd string OL.
I had had high hopes for him but his first 2 games have been pretty bad.
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Random thought:
At the end of last season, everyone was raving about Deebo Samual. Seems to me, the Browns could use Kareem Hunt just like that. Am I wrong? If yes, why? If no, then why not?
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Random thought:
At the end of last season, everyone was raving about Deebo Samual. Seems to me, the Browns could use Kareem Hunt just like that. Am I wrong? If yes, why? If no, then why not? There are some similarities between the two. Both run violently and are thick-bodied, strong dudes. I think the Browns have big plans for Hunt this year, but I'm just speculating. I think the difference between the two is that Samuel has been a WR for quite some time and that position relies on some things that are more precise, such as getting in and out of breaks, running routes at the correct depth, not rounding off routes, not letting guys cross your face, making hot reads and sight adjustments, etc. Playing RB is more of a natural gift, like having good vision and instincts. Of all the positions, I think it is easier to plug in a RB and he can find success early on. You either have it or you don't. Playing WR is more intricate.
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I could be wrong, but I also think Deebo is MUCH bigger and fits the mold of a WR way more than Hunt does
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Thanks jester. Way more similar than i thought!
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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There have been times when I have watched Myles when I just lost it.
Just damn dude how did you do that? Power to speed and quickness. He stands alone. Forget Watt who is great. But I would take Myles all day long.
A monster talent.
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There have been times when I have watched Myles when I just lost it.
Just damn dude how did you do that? Power to speed and quickness. He stands alone. Forget Watt who is great. But I would take Myles all day long.
A monster talent. I would take Watt over MG all day, every day and 17 times on Sunday.
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There have been times when I have watched Myles when I just lost it.
Just damn dude how did you do that? Power to speed and quickness. He stands alone. Forget Watt who is great. But I would take Myles all day long.
A monster talent. I would take Watt over MG all day, every day and 17 times on Sunday. Ever notice Watt always lines up over RT. If Garrett did that, he would be a nightmare
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There have been times when I have watched Myles when I just lost it.
Just damn dude how did you do that? Power to speed and quickness. He stands alone. Forget Watt who is great. But I would take Myles all day long.
A monster talent. I would take Watt over MG all day, every day and 17 times on Sunday. Watt has a meaner streak .... But I wonder what MG would do and how more amazing he would be on an aggressive Pit D?
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There have been times when I have watched Myles when I just lost it.
Just damn dude how did you do that? Power to speed and quickness. He stands alone. Forget Watt who is great. But I would take Myles all day long.
A monster talent. I would take Watt over MG all day, every day and 17 times on Sunday. Ever notice Watt always lines up over RT. If Garrett did that, he would be a nightmare And gets a ton of pressure of blitzes where no one blocks him.
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Yup. I think he gets the most 1-on-1's of any of the top Edge guys.
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Both Myles and Watt are great players. The two best Edge guys in the league no matter how they are being evaluated. To say one is clearly superior to the other is foolhardy. I'm glad that we have one of them.
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Place the dunce hat on my head because IMO Myles is better than Watt.
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I think they are completely different players. Watt is all speed - 250lbs of elite tenaciousness. MG is a much more complete DE 20+ lbs heavier with nearly as much speed and flex.
The biggest single difference to me is how they are schemed and maybe the quality of the other front 7 guys around them. I wouldn't trade MG for Watt.
The more things change the more they stay the same.
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IMO
MG wants to get the sack and look good with his shirt off...be friendly with his opponent and even smack them on the butt when his team gets punked. He's a good guy and wants to be liked an admired. He is a freak of an athlete.
Watt wants to win and kick your ass in the process. He is willing and able to rip off your head and crap down your throat. He's not patting the opposing QB on the butt after his defense gets beat for a TD. He's very athletic and is absolutely relentless.
Defenses can tend to take on the persona of their leader. Our defense looks and acts like MG. The Steelers defense acts and looks like Watt.
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They play a different scheme.
Myles is a true defensive end. He is bigger and stronger and at least as fast. He takes on a harder role. He faces double and triple teams all the time.
Myles bend, lean and closing speed is off the chain.
Watt is a great player there is no question about that. He is an outside linebacker who rushes the passer.
There combine numbers are close to identical with Myles slightly faster.
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I think it's natural to think one guy is better than other. I was simply talking about how they are both elite and one is clearly superior to the other. In fact, my comment was fueled by a comment that dissed Myles.
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Open discussion to compare players.
Ranking position players players is always subjective. TJ won defensive player of the year. He earned it.
He got a lot of sacks. There is more to measuring how disruptive a player is on defense.
IMO there is no defensive end better than Myles.
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IMO
MG wants to get the sack and look good with his shirt off...be friendly with his opponent and even smack them on the butt when his team gets punked. He's a good guy and wants to be liked an admired. He is a freak of an athlete.
Watt wants to win and kick your ass in the process. He is willing and able to rip off your head and crap down your throat. He's not patting the opposing QB on the butt after his defense gets beat for a TD. He's very athletic and is absolutely relentless.
Defenses can tend to take on the persona of their leader. Our defense looks and acts like MG. The Steelers defense acts and looks like Watt. I have a hard time disagreeing with this. And I want to really badly. For me, Myles is obviously a top ten player in the league. What I'd like to see this year is more clutch plays when the game is really on the line and a stronger finish down the stretch. Myles typically leads the league in sacks through week 11, then has 1 or 2 more the rest of the way.
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j/c:
I wonder if the Browns will try and go after OJ Howard who was also released.
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I'll add we could have drafted both. That would have been something.
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Yes, Stainbrook said that is the belief.
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j/c:
I read where OJ Howard looked like he was having a hard time running during TC. I kinda thought the moves meant that Stanton would make the team. But, maybe not?
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I think the Browns should really take a hard look at Lynn Bowden Who the Dolphins just released. Kinda multipurpose offensive threat.and he excels in return game. He's gone through a couple coaching staffs but his talent Is off the charts I coached him in AAU basketball several years back. He has alot of the inner city element hence he is from So his practice and study habits can come into question Youngstown. But the Browns need players who can Create mismatches. They just really lack that on offense
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Griffin-Stewart does not surprise me too much, I expected a cut and maybe the practice squad.
Forristall does surprise me a bit.
Of course, I do not work in the front office.
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That doesn't ring true at all. I've heard Baker interviewed on local radio here several times.... he's been a model citizen. He's been outrageously civilized and non-confrontational when asked about playing the Browns Week 1. But hey ... who knows. I am sure plenty ill want to believe it.
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I read where OJ Howard looked like he was having a hard time running during TC. I kinda thought the moves meant that Stanton would make the team. But, maybe not? This was my initial thought as well. Seems like it meant Stanton was sticking around.
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Yeah, I don't think this means much. Baker has handled himself well in Carolina. I read where he admitted it might mean a little more, but he hasn't dissed the Browns. I also have seen that he has been a good teammate during camp and that him and Darnold were really getting along. It seems like he is maturing.
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That doesn't ring true at all. I've heard Baker interviewed on local radio here several times.... he's been a model citizen. He's been outrageously civilized and non-confrontational when asked about playing the Browns Week 1. But hey ... who knows. I am sure plenty ill want to believe it. It was confirmed by Freelund. But I also think she goaded him.
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Baker thinks he is better than what he really is. This shows he hadn't matured at all. Let your play on The field do the talking . But nope he has talk and yap. He is another version of Manziel only with a beer belly. He is a career .500 QB , who leads the league in Turnovers
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I think it will be how the Browns players interpret this comment. Could end up being the proverbial 'bulletin board material' used throughout the week. All that said.....it is interesting that Cynthia feels it is necessary to follow up with something she said on air in the manner she did. That's on her.
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I think it will be how the Browns players interpret this comment. Could end up being the proverbial 'bulletin board material' used throughout the week. All that said.....it is interesting that Cynthia feels it is necessary to follow up with something she said on air in the manner she did. That's on her.
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