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Biden endorses bill to disclose super PAC donors: ‘Dark money erodes’ trust

President Biden on Tuesday endorsed legislation to disclose super PAC donors, arguing that so-called dark money erodes public trust.

“Dark money erodes public trust. We need to protect public trust and I’m determined to do that,” Biden said in remarks at the White House. “Dark money has become so common in our politics. I believe sunlight is the best disinfectant.”

The Disclose Act would require super PACs and other dark money groups to report those who contribute $10,000 or more during an election season.

Biden mentioned a recent $1.6 billion donation to a political advocacy group, the largest donation to such an entity in U.S. history, from a conservative activist who had worked to overturn Roe v. Wade. The donation was only discovered because of reporting from The New York Times.

“There’s much too much money that flows in the shadows to influence our elections. It’s called dark money. It’s hidden. Right now, advocacy groups can run ads on issues attacking or supporting a candidate right until Election Day without disclosing who’s paying for that ad,” he said.

Biden also noted that foreign entities use dark money loopholes to try to influence U.S. elections. The president said that he has proposed publicly funding all U.S. elections but that he doesn’t “have the support for that position,” calling this bill a second position “that is very good.”

Senate Majority Leader Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) said on Monday that the chamber will vote later this week on the bill, which was introduced by Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse (D-R.I.) in April.

Biden urged Republicans to vote for the legislation.

“Getting dark money out of our politics has been a bipartisan issue in the past,” he said, noting that the late Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) fought for campaign finance reform.

Without support from at least 10 Republicans, the legislation will fail in the Senate because it won’t receive the 60 votes needed to overcome the legislative filibuster.

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GOPers couldn't imagine elections without dark money. This legislation has ZERO chance, but is much needed.


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I love the idea, but it will fail. There are Dems who receive dark money as well, so I can’t see it getting over 50 senate votes, let alone 60.


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This is one time I could get behind aborting something grin Abort Dark Money


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Originally Posted by dawglover05
I love the idea, but it will fail. There are Dems who receive dark money as well, so I can’t see it getting over 50 senate votes, let alone 60.

I agree, but he is probably only talking about some. Plus, him talking about dark money is funny.


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Originally Posted by Ballpeen
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I love the idea, but it will fail. There are Dems who receive dark money as well, so I can’t see it getting over 50 senate votes, let alone 60.

I agree, but he is probably only talking about some. Plus, him talking about dark money is funny.


I agree too. I hope it passes!


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Originally Posted by Ballpeen
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I love the idea, but it will fail. There are Dems who receive dark money as well, so I can’t see it getting over 50 senate votes, let alone 60.

I agree, but he is probably only talking about some. Plus, him talking about dark money is funny.

I agree that it will never pass because dark money is a two way street among some, but not all. And why do you think it's funny Peen? Do you have any evidence
Biden has received dark money or is it just another hunch you have?


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Originally Posted by dawglover05
I love the idea, but it will fail. There are Dems who receive dark money as well, so I can’t see it getting over 50 senate votes, let alone 60.

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Even worse....




Can someone help this poor guy?



Also, he should not be running the country. I'd rather have Harris at this point. Smh


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It's sad honestly. I thought Trump was propped up with uppers and Adderall, they must have a stick up Bidens backside. This job is just way too much for a man this old.

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Given the only two legitimate choices given, the majority of Americans saw it as the lesser of two evils. After watching the nastiness, vindictiveness and generally hateful man that was leading the nation at the time, it's obvious there was no good choice.


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She just died in August. shocked


People around these parts were touched by the heartfelt message from the White House...


Statement from President Biden on the Passing of Congresswoman Jackie Walorski of Indiana
AUGUST 03, 2022

STATEMENTS AND RELEASES
Jill and I are shocked and saddened by the death of Congresswoman Jackie Walorski of Indiana along with two members of her staff in a car accident today in Indiana.

Born in her beloved South Bend as the daughter of a meat-cutter and firefighter, she spent a lifetime serving the community that she grew up in – as a journalist, a nonprofit director, a state legislator, and eventually as a Member of Congress for the past nine and half years.

We may have represented different parties and disagreed on many issues, but she was respected by members of both parties for her work on the House Ways and Means Committee on which she served. She also served as co-chair of the House Hunger Caucus, and my team and I appreciated her partnership as we plan for a historic White House Conference on Hunger, Nutrition, and Health this fall that will be marked by her deep care for the needs of rural America.

We send our deepest condolences to her husband, Dean, to the families of her staff members, Zachery Potts and Emma Thomson, who lost their lives in public service, and to the people of Indiana’s Second District who lost a representative who was one of their own.



There is no way Biden can be serious about running for reelection. This is just sad to watch.


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Originally Posted by PitDAWG
it's obvious there was no good choice.

Right. So what do we get next time?

Trump v $hillary part deux?


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That's very concerning. I'm hoping he doesn't rerun in 2024, but I don't know who else would be a good option in that party...in either party, really.


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Your guess is as good as mine. At this point it seems most American voters aren't concerned about the quality of the candidates when looking at who they have been nominating. I have no idea when it comes to the democrats. My guess on the republican side is DeSantis. He's the closest thing they could nominate to another trump. I mean he pwns the dems pretty good and thus far it seems that's all that really matters to them. I certainly don't want to see Biden in the running again like most everyone else.


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Please don't speak that into existence. If I had to take a guess, though, it'll be DeSantis who gets the nod. I think he's biding his time. If I had a gun to my head, I would bet it's DeSantis vs. Harris.

So, once again, barf.


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Originally Posted by FATE
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it's obvious there was no good choice.

Right. So what do we get next time?

Trump v $hillary part deux?

I hope Biden bows out and John Fetterman runs. I'd even be good with Newsome. But Fetterman relates better with the working class. Also, honorable mention for Katie Porter, she would make an outstanding POTUS or VP.

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Fetterman will have to win PA first. After that, he'll have to make himself notable on the national stage to have a chance. I have to admit, I'd like to see a presidential debate with a guy wearing a hoodie.

I don't like Newsome. I feel like him getting nailed at an outdoor mask-less dinner at The French Laundry (great place btw) while mandating strict COVID rules for everyone else puts him in a Pelosi-esque light to me. He seems to be one of those champagne socialist types who doesn't practice what he preaches. I could be wrong, though.


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Newsome is an idiot. He’s a rich kid grown up. He acts like he came from a ‘regular’ background but his dad was a state appeals court judge and the administrator of the Getty family trust.
He’s never had dirty nails or sweat on his brow from labor. He’s bourgeois… and an idiot. I’ve heard enough interviews with him, Oregon being a border state with Cali and all, and he’s proven himself a mental simpleton unable to chew gum and walk at the same time.


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You just dictated my own thoughts better than I did.


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Fetterman has to show that he has no significant residual deficits from the stroke.
He has failed to do that to date which is what I think is holding him back from running away with the PA race


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Off topic, but bears a little relevance.

Last election, my son (huge Bernie Bros at the time) kept trying to sell me polling info, I kept telling him the polls were all hogwash and pointed to 2016. "If you want to get the real pulse, check the Vegas odds, they'll be much more accurate".

We did, and I almost placed a bet. I wanted to put a bill on Warren at +1800, and a bill on Biden at +1100. My whole theory was based on the fact that there was no way the establishment would let Bernie win the nomination (again). You couldn't hedge (at the time) on Trump because he was -250 and would eat all of your profit... but I reasoned those odds would improve dramatically once the primaries decided on the democrat. And you could wait as long as you wanted for the best odds leading up to the election. They did, dramatically... Trump was +200 in late October, meaning I lost the prospect of stupid easy money with absolutely no risk.

I reasoned, going forward, that this would be an ongoing "edge" whenever an incumbent could run for a second term. Unfortunately, Biden is too much of a lame duck to inflate the odds on the other side. Right now, Trump is +250 and DeSantis is +325... Luckily, I've been watching -- and locked in DeSantis at +1100, two short months ago.


Now that anybody who's reading is wondering why... Seeing the changes in the odds on the other side tells me that Vegas "think" is definitely trending toward Gavin Newsome on the other side. His odds have dropped more than anyone else. I'm about to hop on while he's still at +1400. rofl

Blue needs lightning in a bottle. Biden and Harris are both candles in the wind. Fetterman is a cigar looking for a pack of matches. Newsome, as terrible as he is, may be the only option at catching lightning.


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I already said I believed DeSantis would be the R nominee, but I’m very surprised he’s that close to Trump in the odds.

I’m still going to act like it was an innovative plot twist that only I predicted, though.

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I don't think Trump or Desantis will be the R nominee in 24. They are going to be in jail if there is any justice left in this country. I fully expect a new face, more moderate, pulling the party back toward sanity. And most of the 100+ Q-MAGAts in congress will have been run out of Washington. Hell, there might not even be a Republican party in two years at the rate they are going. They are already labeled as domestic terrorists under MAGAts control. If they try to steal another election, I could see them being destroyed.

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Originally Posted by OldColdDawg
I don't think Trump or Desantis will be the R nominee in 24. They are going to be in jail...

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Can't imagine that? I can. They're both under fed investigation for crimes that could put them behind bars for at least 20 years. So laugh all you want, I bet I laugh last.


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With the choices we will be stuck with again in 2024 we should all be crying instead of laughing.


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I saw something where 56% of the people are concerned about the Presidents mental capacity. To me the more concerning aspect of that total is that 44% aren't concerned.

Think about that.


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You're surprised? After Trump? Really? He could have a lobotomy, walk around soaked in his own bodily fluid, and not be able to do anything other than mumble AND still be a better POTUS. So, no, not that concerned. GOPers trying hard though, I'll give you that.


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Originally Posted by Ballpeen
I saw something where 56% of the people are concerned about the Presidents mental capacity. To me the more concerning aspect of that total is that 44% aren't concerned.

Think about that.

Ironic that you never showed any doubt about the former POTUS and his fitness for office and his actions and words ...


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Originally Posted by FATE
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Doesn't that make any thinking person of any political persuasion feel absolutely nauseous ? 🤮


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Originally Posted by OldColdDawg
You're surprised? After Trump? Really? He could have a lobotomy, walk around soaked in his own bodily fluid, and not be able to do anything other than mumble AND still be a better POTUS. So, no, not that concerned. GOPers trying hard though, I'll give you that.


Let's pretend Trump doesn't exist and remove him from any equation...

Do you still want Biden to be running the country given everything he has said in the last few months?

Personally, I am at the point where Biden is not mentally capable and Harris should take over as POTUS.


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Originally Posted by OldColdDawg
You're surprised? After Trump? Really? He could have a lobotomy, walk around soaked in his own bodily fluid, and not be able to do anything other than mumble AND still be a better POTUS. So, no, not that concerned. GOPers trying hard though, I'll give you that.


Let's pretend Trump doesn't exist and remove him from any equation...

Do you still want Biden to be running the country given everything he has said in the last few months?

Personally, I am at the point where Biden is not mentally capable and Harris should take over as POTUS.

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Sure let's imagine that the favorite to win the next election doesn't exist. While we are at it we can imagine unlimited energy and a world without violence or bad people.

Personally I'd take an amoeba over Trump.

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Personally I'm sick and tired of both parties running out piece of sheet candidates.


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Me too. Some are worse than others though .... unless Biden tries to prevent the peaceful transfer of power and tries to undermine confidence in safe elections.


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I am hoping Larry Hogan the term limited Governor of Maryland runs and wins.


Another R that i like is Sununu, the Governor of New Hampshire. But I dont think there is any xhance he will run in 2024

As for Dems, I actually like Roy Cooper the Governor of NC


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Pretty certain I heard an interview with Larry Hogan - and he was impressive. Easily more competent than anyone on that list of odds to win the election.


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j/c:

It's a shame there isn't a serious Libertarian candidate anywhere to be seen.


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Originally Posted by OldColdDawg
You're surprised? After Trump? Really? He could have a lobotomy, walk around soaked in his own bodily fluid, and not be able to do anything other than mumble AND still be a better POTUS. So, no, not that concerned. GOPers trying hard though, I'll give you that.

Hold on.

You're NOT concerned about Biden's mental capacity... and your reason is "because Trump"??


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Oh c'mon - that's flat our funny right there.


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