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Our defense should be embarrassed

Our playcalling was really questionable IMO

They took away our screen game and it destroyed us … props to them

Wasted opportunity for a w, but I knew we were up against it.

That sucks


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defense.....defense completely choked in the 2nd half. no guts. nobody dug deep. nobody played well.

fire joe woods.


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look at the rushing total for the falcons in the 2nd half.

over 165 yards in the 2nd half. the defense couldn't stop a nose bleed.


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I'm not a smart man, but I do know that 3pts KS passed up in the 1st qtr would've been helpful

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ABSOLUTELY HORRIBLE play calling the last series. RUN THE BALL!


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They beat us at our own game.


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Originally Posted by boofers20
I'm not a smart man, but I do know that 3pts KS passed up in the 1st qtr would've been helpful

the game was tied at half. and we had a 3 point lead, but the defense just got ran on after we we scored. i cant be mad at what happened in the 1st quarter when all the choking came in the 4th.


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14 straight successful running plays to essentially close out the game. Inexcusable and unacceptable. Someone needs to be held accountable and it starts with Stefanski. The are no excuses why this team isn’t 4-0. Brissett has proven he can’t close out. Hence the backup designation. No real blame there.


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At some point, Stefanski has to take ownership of his bad play calls. Second, we went into the seaon, weak at DT, and it shows!!.. Call Suh now or we will have this problem all season. Also, our tackling was horrible all game.

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yea JB showed why he's a backup unfortunately. i dont care who is covering Cooper, you give your best receiver targets. He just didnt look Coopers way all game.


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Doh.
I’ve been pleasantly surprised by JB’s play but we brought him in to not make mistakes. He took a sack and then threw the int when he absolutely couldn’t. That’s two game ending ints in a row.

That said, as the game was on the line and we only needed a few yards to get within Yorks’ distance, RUN THE DAMN BALL!


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Stephanski is a poor play caller ... but he will get yet another pass this year because of the Watson fiasco
Joe Woods defense is too soft
This team is poorly coached and situationally ill-prepared
This team will be too far gone to make the playoffs even if Watson goes 6-0 when he comes back
Haslam is going to have a tough decision at years end regarding this coaching staff. If it were me I would tell Stephanski, give up play calling or there's the door.

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I think we saw the real Jacoby Brissett ... it was a tale of two halves today.


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Simply put, this is not the right staff and FO, the sooner we get rid of it, the sooner we can try to get the right ones. Other teams have proved you don’t need 3 years. Only coach on this staff I would keep is Callahan.


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regardless, competent coaching has us at 4-0

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Originally Posted by FL_Dawg
I think we saw the real Jacoby Brissett ... it was a tale of two halves today.
I think we saw the real Kevin stefanski offense today, and it = choke 4 weeks in a row.
with a 58 yard field goal Heimlich,
and a pittspuke stunk even worse Heimlich the other week.
No Heimlich today.

Offense only got 3 points on 4 out of I2 drives.
It's always the offenses fault always (almost)

AFTER FOUR YEARs WHYYYYY ARE THEY sTILL GOING TO Harrison BRYANT IN CRITICAL sITUATIONs?

H Bryant, 3 touches two more attempts all but one = negative outcome.


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Look I will say that the last series was not the best by #7... but the Stefanski screens did not help. And the D allowed the Falcons to run down their throat!!.. Playing d is about desire.. Our D showed it had no fire!!... and why not tell Brissett that we are going to use 2 plays via the headset

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Stefanski blew 10 points in 1st half.This loss is on his head.


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Head Coach not learning from the past
Owner not learning from the past.

The Offense having the negative drives goes back to 2020, every overtime first drive of overtime in any game in 2020
the drive was negative.

The offense being coached like not up to par, goes back to the playoff win year of 2020.
and you can see it.

The offense haz been a letdown for 25 yearz, 35 maybe.


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They killed us when they figured out they could run the ball on us, at will. Ugh!

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I am TIRED of Watching NICK CHUBB stand on the sideline especially in crunch time or in the Red Zone ... I am afraid Stafanski won't be here next year he waste talent and Watson is coming This FO will want a more open offense. Chubb rushed for 6.2 YPC and we throw on second and goal at the one ... smh


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Thix head coach, over 30 gamez way too many timez goex to Harrizon Bryant in crunch time playz.
What did Harrizon Bryant do today?


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Stefanski lost to Arthur Smith, who coaches a team expected to be a bottom 5 team. Let me repeat that. Stefanski lost to Arthur Smith. Completely outcoached.

The Browns are an average team with an average coaching staff.

I like Stefanski. I really do. I don't want to start over at head coach. But he's responsible for the whole operation. It's not working on the defensive side of the ball. He's responsible for it all. This was the easy part of the schedule. We should have been 4-0, no less than 3-1. If you have to force him to make a change on the defensive side of the ball, then do it.

The Browns are average in every way except rushing offense. It is what it is.

Btw, Vers, this is why I struggle to be positive.

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Once again there is a WIDE OPEN WR in our secondary in crunch time JOE WOODS !!!


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Only a few yards to get into field goal range with plently of time. RUN THE DAMN BALL!


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Stephanski going for it instead of taking points, and passing on the one yard line. The coach lost this game

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j/c...

- This loss falls squarely on the coaches. Stefanski was exceptionally bad today.

- Not taking the early three points came back to bite them. Poor decision making when your playing short staffed on defense. Take all the points you can get.

- Browns were running the ball down Atlanta's throat so naturally Stefanski abandons that and gets pass happy. Arthur Smith was smart enough to stick with what worked.

- Joe Woods' defense got absolutely gashed by practice squad players. Embarrassing.

- Hard to believe how bad that game plan was after having ten days to prepare for this game.

- Brissett came back down to Earth today. Chucking balls all over the place. Took a sack when you absolutely cannot take a sack. Tosses game ending INT.

- For three years now the two minute offense is painfully bad.

- Browns got the ball back on the final drive and Stefanski is calling plays like there is 30 seconds left on the clock.

- The offense in goal-to-goal situations was offensive to watch.

- The Browns offense left a lot of points on the field today.

- A 2-2 record with this gifted cupcake schedule to open the season is really disappointing.

- Game ball to Nick Chubb for another great game and hilariously having his family up in the nosebleeds.

There may be rough waters ahead with the upcoming schedule.

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j/c:

Brissett's game today helped towards regressing to his mean performance.
Not having Garrett or Clowney on the DL clearly showed.
Joe Woods is still not impressing me after a few years.
Thought Jedrick Wills had a really nice game in the highlighted plays I saw.
Thought JOK had a really nice game in the highlighted plays I saw.
Thought Delpit had a really nice game in the highlighted plays I saw.
Expecting to be a clear underdog at home vs. the Chargers

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This roster was a bit over rated in the typical Schedule game
Played. This was not a 4-0 or 3-1 team as predicted by
Many. 2-2 is what this team is.
Did JOK make any plays today. ? He is very over rated
Atlanta oline was pimp slapping the Browns dline when
It had too. The defense is a bunch of names but it's soft
As a unit

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Joe Woods' defense gave up 13 points in the 4th quarter. That's 50 points now given up in the 4th quarter through 4 games.

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Originally Posted by MemphisBrownie
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Not having Garrett or Clowney on the DL clearly showed.

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Stefanski is always owning and learning.

When will he have learned?

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We are still in first place.

Steelers are in last place.

Another weekend another beer won't cure these blues!

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Originally Posted by superbowldogg

thumbsdown GET IT RIGHT COACH OR GET OUT!!!


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Originally Posted by SunDawg
Joe Woods defense is too soft.

Says it all....


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Originally Posted by Rishuz
Stefanski is always owning and learning.

When will he have learned?

Sinks in after the twelfth lesson!

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On the Deep pass to DPJ that ended up at the 2 yard line - I thought 'Man - maybe Brissett is really this good' ... it went down hill from there.

Defensive woes continued - MG and Clowney out really hurt both run and pass D. But it goes beyond that. I've been down on Woods for a long time - there have been games when we shut good teams down, but overall I'd say we have a body of work that shows us losing out to bad teams much more frequently.

Stefanski didn't manage the game very well - and once again in a game where the run game was working, working, working, he went pass happy. 🤮

Better have a bounce back game and put it all together next week.


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Ward mentions in his presser about the communication again

Seems someone needs to stand up and take ownership of being a communicator and get the squad on the same page


I don't understand why there isn't more Chubb and Hunt together out on the field

The last possession should have been Chubb and Hunt pounding the ball towards the endzone




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Originally Posted by Rishuz
Stefanski is always owning and learning.

When will he have learned?

See.....I think he is doing rather well.

- I've really been a fan of his play calling and, personally, love how he goes for it on 4th down.
- He doesn't have his starting QB which we all know is THE main ingredient to a successful team.
- He didn't have Clowney the past two games; Garrett in this game.
- No Anthony Walker, one of the highest graded LB though two games this season.
- There are clear issues with Joe Woods (maybe this is where Stefanski could learn the most from)

For me, Stefanski isn't the problem. If Watson were starting from the jump, I'd bet this team is 4-0 and there wouldn't be much of a fuss.. We have a backup starting for this team.....it is what it is, unfortunately.

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