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[*]Player Pos Injury Status Grade Pos WAR Rank
M. Garrett ED Arm QUESTIONABLE 91.5

J. Clowney ED Leg QUESTIONABLE 88.8

J. Bitonio G Arm QUESTIONABLE 84.7

A. Walker LB Leg IR 82.7

J. Haeg T Head QUESTIONABLE 60.0

T. Bryan DI Leg QUESTIONABLE 51.9

C. Winovich ED Leg IR 42.4



Player Pos Injury Status Grade Pos WAR Rank
J. Meyers WR Leg QUESTIONABLE 84.5

J. Jones CB Leg QUESTIONABLE 79.2

D. Harris HB Leg QUESTIONABLE 76.0

N. Agholor WR Leg QUESTIONABLE 67.1

Y. Cajuste T Arm IR 66.0

D. Andrews C Torso QUESTIONABLE 65.4

T. Montgomery HB Leg IR 63.9

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Bill B, per usual, keeping everyone guessing about everyone’s status. I am sure that Harris will be out tho


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Again

Not sure how to feel about this

wonder if he was cleared to play

He must have been

He's making the call that he isn't

What a let down

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He has a history of this.

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Nobody knows but as we can see conclusions will be reached none the less.


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I feel like Clowney wakes up, stretches, yawns, and more often than not just says "Nah, not today..."


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He’s certainly an enigma. Whether he’s injured severely or not, it still is frustrating for all


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Every year between Ward and Clowney it's just a matter of when they won't be playing not if. They're 2 of our best D players and they can't be relied upon. That's not acceptable and our FO should start to consider replacing them in the offseason.

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Originally Posted by Homewood Dog
Every year between Ward and Clowney it's just a matter of when they won't be playing not if. They're 2 of our best D players and they can't be relied upon. That's not acceptable and our FO should start to consider replacing them in the offseason.


Ward is here for awhile.

Clowney will be gone after this season.

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Originally Posted by AZBrown
Originally Posted by Homewood Dog
Every year between Ward and Clowney it's just a matter of when they won't be playing not if. They're 2 of our best D players and they can't be relied upon. That's not acceptable and our FO should start to consider replacing them in the offseason.


Ward is here for awhile.

Clowney will be gone after this season.

Imo


Greedy Walker and Delpit seem to be hurt a lot

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Yea those 2 guys are always out too especially Williams. If Ward is going to be here awhile maybe, he should start taping himself up before games.

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It’s like clockwork that the same rotation of guys falls on the “OUT” list


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Maybe they should consider a new sport. rolleyes

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Originally Posted by DeisleDawg
Originally Posted by AZBrown
Originally Posted by Homewood Dog
Every year between Ward and Clowney it's just a matter of when they won't be playing not if. They're 2 of our best D players and they can't be relied upon. That's not acceptable and our FO should start to consider replacing them in the offseason.


Ward is here for awhile.

Clowney will be gone after this season.

Imo


Greedy Walker and Delpit seem to be hurt a lot

Add Harrison to that list

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Originally Posted by Homewood Dog
Maybe they should consider a new sport. rolleyes


The whole D needs to consider a new sport.

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Originally Posted by Homewood Dog
Every year between Ward and Clowney it's just a matter of when they won't be playing not if. They're 2 of our best D players and they can't be relied upon. That's not acceptable and our FO should start to consider replacing them in the offseason.

Heck, we just signed Hospital Ward to a big extension. He isn't going anywhere except to the trainers table.


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Probably and with his medical history and the way he's been playing you'd be lucky to get a 4th round pick for him. Yes, we're stuck with him like it or not. Hope he starts playing the way he did before his extension!

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I saw where the kid is out with another concussion. It's too bad. Ward is a good player, but if he was a boxer he would be the guy with a 3-17 record and finally retire because he can't take a punch.

That isn't his fault, he just can't take a hit to the head. Just the way it is for some people. Unlike a boxer who is on fight to fight contracts, he is sitting on a 4 years deal, so he isn't going to retire. He is going to sit back and avoid contact.

I guess I can't blame him, but it sure doesn't help our football team. Ward isn't as good as a Deion Sanders who could side step contact and get away with it because he brought so much else to his team.


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Originally Posted by Homewood Dog
Yea those 2 guys are always out too especially Williams. If Ward is going to be here awhile maybe, he should start taping himself up before games.

I don't think you can tape yourself up for a concussion. Frankly, I am not sure we should be making light of concussions. They are serious and often lead to problems many, many years later.

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Vers, I'm not making light of a concussion. I understand they're serious and didn't have that in mind when I posted my comment. Didn't Ward have a shoulder, ankle or knee injury too? That's what I meant, and it was a reference to the players of years ago who used to get taped up so they could get back in.

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Yes, he has had multiple injuries over the years. I wasn't sure if you guys were aware he had a concussion. I read peen's post later. FYI.......this is Ward's second concussion that I know of.

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Originally Posted by Versatile Dog
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Yea those 2 guys are always out too especially Williams. If Ward is going to be here awhile maybe, he should start taping himself up before games.

I don't think you can tape yourself up for a concussion. Frankly, I am not sure we should be making light of concussions. They are serious and often lead to problems many, many years later.

I agree. Some people are more susceptible than others. You just never know until you start getting banged in the head. It's not something you can train for or anything like that. It's just the way it is. Shock waves impact different peoples brains differently. Some more, some less.

I do have to remember Williams talking about Ward is going to have problems if he keeps tackling like that...head first. Maybe it is still some of that? If you think about a boxer, getting hit face forward usually isn't the knock-out blow, it is the hit like a hook that hits the side of the head that jars the brain and staggers the guy.

If Ward keeps getting kneed in the side or back of the helmet, he is going to have problems. That is why QB's have problems when slamming the back of their head in to the turf...it's like a rabbit punch in boxing, which is illegal.


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Agreed again.

I have noticed that Ward has changed his tackling style.

One thing I know is that once you get one concussion, you are much more susceptible to getting another one. It keeps increasing as you go along. This is Ward's second [that I am aware of.] I am pretty sure his first was during his rookie year, so that's been awhile. It's still something to monitor.

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They haven’t ruled out Jones, but they also elevated a QB


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Have Ward or Clowney made it a full season without injury in their careers?


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No lol


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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