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It brings me no joy to be correct other than I was going to bet the Patriots and I didn't.
Take Chubb away from Stefanski, and he is no better than any other coach the Browns have had. He's Pat Shurmur, Chud, etc. He's a fraud. He's awful.
Brissett was afraid to throw the ball today.
The Browns suck.
The Jets game broke me. If we could have gone 4-1 even with that loss I could have chalked it up to super anomaly. But it was reflective of this staff.
The Browns suck.
LOL - The Rish will be upset with this news as well. KS just doesn't prioritize winning...
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We have to get better. I will take responsibility. I will look at the tape. I will not make any changes.
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- This was comically bad.
- The defense is absolutely atrocious and the Browns have no picks to rebuild it.
- Priefer never has ST prepared. He's junk.
- Brissett is who he is. A bad QB.
- Wheels are really going to come off with the upcoming schedule.
- I expected 4-7 after the first 11 games. I look like an optimist!
- The Browns is the Browns.
Off to see the Guardians.
Go Guardians!
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Hunter + Dart = This is the way.
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Blah hurry back Watson and 2023
John 3:16 Jesus said "For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life."
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Andrew Berry and Kevin Stefanski.
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well, the first game we were pretty much done from the start of the game.
JB really came crashing down to Earth today. the guy just goes through his reads so slow, and we have another QB who won't(can't) throw his receivers open. unless they're open, he's gonna hold on to the ball. even with this passiveness, he still turning the ball over more and more, and his passes are less accurate than at the beginning of the season.
the defense....our secondary is a joke. the d line simply doesn't have talent minus garrett. had chances to get Zappe down, but just couldn't finish plays and once again, we saw a lot of busted coverage downfield.
the patriots really tried to stop our run, but i thought we didn't stick to it enough, plus we were getting decent yards per rush anyways.
horrible game
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Turnovers
The midfield logo is still dumb looking.
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Blah hurry back Watson and 2023 Painted on the wall as you leave Roosters it says Free Wings Tomorrow. The Browns will be great next year.
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I don't care anymore. Missed the game on purpose for the first time in years.
I knew we would lose and finally am not watching this train wreck anymore!
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I don't care anymore. I knew we would lose and finally am not watching this train wreck anymore! My masochistic nature tells me to keep watching....lol
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I was surprised. We were worse that I'd thought we'd be. Pathetic. I predicted 6-8 wins and last place. 6 wins might have been optimistic.
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I'll be watching and rooting for the GuardIndians though.
Hope this football game isn't a pre cursor to the Indians game.
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Horrific coaching. We have players on this team that don't know that you can't recover an onside kick when you're out of bounds. - There are high school teams that coach that sort of thing. I wouldn't be surprised if Stefanski gets canned tonight.
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OMG! We could be 2 & forever. I thought we were much better than this, but it seems I was wrong....
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LOL 3rd....Here is my life....
Saturday: Braves eliminated and the Tide loses in a horrible way.
Sunday: Browns usual loss.
I'm done.
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To touch on that. One of my buddies was selling his tickets and I nearly bought them so that my daughter could always say that she had seen Bill Bellichik in person. Face value, 264 for two seats. Man am I glad that I passed on them. At this point, I'd be willing to pay 10% of the face value to see this team. -- That would have been 26.40, plus 20 for parking, plus another 50 for food/souvenirs. - At 10% of face value, that's a total of around 100.00 heck I'm not sure that I'd be willing to do that now that I write about it.
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.... you can't recover an onside kick when you're out of bounds. I think we got shafted on the reversal. I saw no proof that AJG touched the ball....
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Does the team really have talent
I don't see much talent
or is that the team has talent
but not a coaching staff that can coach them to
Win !!
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For Who WHO WHO could be the new coach that would turn thingz around?
Who? Jon Gruden? ... not midseason can you imagine, when he'd start losing too.
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LOL 3rd....Here is my life....
Saturday: Braves eliminated and the Tide loses in a horrible way.
Sunday: Browns usual loss.
I'm done. Totally understandable....
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IAt the beginning of the year I said we could be 2-9 when DW comes back. I think that's going to happen. Just about every game every season that lousy feeling of another loss.
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Just horrible. Worse than any of us could imagine.
Simply put - outcoached. At every point and in every phase. With as many injuries as they have - simply inexcusable.
But - I realized something as I grew frustrated and bad mouthed the team on my TV ... I actually don't care that much right now. Not because of any other reason than I knew this was a blown season - knew we had wasted a year of MG, Chubb, Conklin, Bitonio, Teller, JOK and others all in their prime. Right now - I am disgusted with their performance - but basically the whole team is in Limbo until we get our future FQB available and playing. We might still lose at that point if we are still so bad on D and special teams ... and if we do I will be livid ... but for now the truth is none of these games matter. We were destined to miss the playoffs and be average at best this year ... and here we are, certainly headed in that direction unless lighting strikes Berea - a few times - and somehow we flip the script. But don't hold your breath.
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Does the team really have talent
I don't see much talent
or is that the team has talent
but not a coaching staff that can coach them to
Win !! Oh we have some talent but not the (defensive) coaching. Admittedly, we are soft up the middle on defense, so yes, we do have some holes to fill....
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Jordan Elliott is irreplaceable because see he is Long and that uhh..------
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Hell, the Giants and Jets are better than us.
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This team has talent but every NFL team has talent, duh. But this team lacks intelligent football players I wonder how many are still part of the Andrew Berry Fan Club I suspect the Homers will be in the shadows now
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I'd be down for Gruden. I'd love playing the role of the bad boy in the NFL.
Our team could be like the 2nd coming of the Raiders. Heck yeah. Not these soft coaches and players.
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In that picture the guy on the left is about to get a boost into a backflip, it would be awesome. (glass half full haha).
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OMG! We could be 2 & forever. I thought we were much better than this, but it seems I was wrong.... So the worst QB we play in the next 5 weeks, currently, is..... Tom Brady.
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Stefanski isn't improving. He's getting worse and worse.
LOL - The Rish will be upset with this news as well. KS just doesn't prioritize winning...
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The FO knew they were throwing this year away when they went after Watson. I know this because they did thorough due diligence (I read that on the internet, so it must be true). I think we have won every game we deserved to win.
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I feel like this season will now turn into the ones we know too well: players loafing around, uninspired, letting things snowball, and losing games by 3 TDs
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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If the players throw in the towel 6 games in, there should be coaching changes.
Can't wait to hear the excuses and plan to improve this week.
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You’re right … i still fear its coming
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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No matter what this team says or does, no matter who owns them, coaches them, or plays for them nothing ever, ever changes. It’s exactly like watching them at the beginning of the century, except now they have a couple decent running backs who hate life playing for this dysfunctional crap foundry. Haven’t watched a game in three weeks and my Sundays and Mondays are almost like normal days. F em. Go Guardians!
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