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Frenchy #1979359 10/16/22 07:41 AM
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You know my love will Not Fade Away.........


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I wish some of that "never quit".. "never give up" attitude that the Guardians have shown all season would rub off on the Browns..maybe today.. thumbsup




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Originally Posted by ScottPlayersFacemask

I guess I went to bed too early! That was fantastic!!!

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I am sure you will not fall asleep tonight

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I am sure you will not fall asleep tonight

Gotta work tonight, so unfortunately I cannot watch it. 'Gotta bring home the bacon.'

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Growing up I was a diehard of all three Cleveland teams - Browns, Indians, and Cavs. My grandfather made sure of it. And although I wasn't a Clevelander, like most Clevelanders the Browns were and always have been my first love. I was a 12 year old kid at training camp when Bernie Kosar signed a rookie card for me. I was hooked.

Over the years I have found it harder and harder to keep up with the Indians and Cavs due to the number of games combined with work, marriage, kids, just life in general. I have lost touch with the Indians and Cavs, but kind of follow from afar and always watch the playoffs if they are in it. I was stoked to watch the game yesterday. I watched all the way through until the very end. I was screaming after the Gonzalez hit.

I laid in bed this morning reading this thread and all the twitter reaction that was posted and literally had tears coming out of my eyes. The fans of Cleveland deserve so much in my opinion. The fans greeting Tito at his residence is a special kind of special.

What a game.

Some observations from a guy who doesn't follow baseball all that closely -

1. Kwan and Ramirez have a lot of plate discipline. They rarely swing at bad pitches and usually put balls in play. The rest of the lineup gets nervous and chases pitches.

2. Ramirez looks short and pudgy but it has been a joy watching him play 3rd base in these playoffs. Guy can field.

3. Has any Cleveland sports team had a manager/coach with the clout of Francona? And it's not just reputation. Guy seems to deliver year after year. Is he the best in the majors? I remember him as child the year he played what I thought was third base for the Indians.

4. What an electric game and crowd last night. Man, the fans deserved that so much. I kept thinking I wished I was there.

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I’m in a weird spot .. I’m a diehard Yankee fans but truly think the Guards deserve the series. And I like the way they play the game.

The Yankees are a disgrace truthfully … they have the wrong approach, a terrible manager, and no redeeming qualities.


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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I thought Boone was a respected manager, no?

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Baseball continues to amaze me.

It has been a part of my life since I was eight. You watch a the regular season and you get over the ups and downs because you play the next day.

At times it looks routine. Team ahead in the ninth by 2 or 3 runs . Closer comes in. Game over. Then two days goes by and a 3 run lead is blown.

Regular season is over. Dodgers record is crazy good. Runs scored; Runs against. Run differential a staggering +334.
Padres 22 games behind.

Padres take the series in 4 games.

Mets, Braves, Dodgers all win over 100 games. That is not easy to do. All three are out now.

All those tiny things that happen that can change a game.

What an amazing sport.

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I thought Boone was a respected manager, no?
Not amongst Yankee fans. He’s Joe Woods for them. His bullpen use, changing of lineups, and inability to manufacture runs are all scorned.


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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If the Guardians get to the World Series.

They will be the home team because their regular season record was better than the Padres or Phillies.

Just looking ahead with positive vibes imaging a miracle.

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I text back and forth with my brother who lives in Cleveland. He listens to the radio broadcast all year.

I keep telling him I want a laser strike zone. I am sick of missed balls and strikes.

The difference between a 2-1 count and 1-2 is incredible when looking at the stats of those counts.

Any ump can call a pitch down the middle or an obvious ball. But, pitchers live on the black. You make a great pitch on a 1-1 count and the ump misses the call. It is enormous.

The technology is here. Use it. They correct calls on the bases. Foul or fair. Use it on the strike zone. To many umps call a different strike zone.

I have seen the NLCS ruined by a bad umpire calling balls and strikes. They fired the ump after the series. He was calling strikes a foot outside.

The laser would call the game accurately. Call the ump and give the right call. Now the hitter and pitcher would be treated fairly.

It will happen. They are doing it in the minors. I will be glad when it does happens.

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Kinda figured the guardians would get stomped today too. Bad day for cleveland sports. Cole owned is all year. Offense needs to get it to the bullpen asap.


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I mean…I have way more confidence in the tribe than I do the stains.

These guys have been my only joy.

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j/c...

Bummer. Missed opportunities.

Going to be a lot of bullpen use tomorrow for both teams.

Would like to get 3 innings out of Civale.

Go Guardians!

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Cole has shut us down everytime.. I think the key is to get early offense to get NYY into their bullpen while ours maintains the lead.. We have a hard time generating a lot of offense. We have to slowly chip all game, but tonight it just wasn't happening after we gave them 3 right off the bat, Some defensive lapses as well, like Arias getting pulled off the bag, and Kwan jogging out a fly ball that landed fair...little things like that hurt a young team.. but Quantrill has been horrible. He couldn't get any of his pitches off. But here we are, lowest payroll against highest in a game 5 winner take all.. Meanwhile that mistake on the lake got beat by a 4th round qb like a rented mule. Would be extra sweet to send NYY home at their place.. I don't have much faith in Civale though.


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At least we won't have to face Cole again. He really has been our kryptonite.

Do or die in NYC tomorrow.

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Civale vs Taillon … and lots of bullpen for both teams lol


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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No matter what happens in game 5, they gave the fans a lot of heart, effort, and enjoyment. They cared. They played smart. And they left it all out on the field. Completely opposite of what we are witnessing with the Browns.

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I thought we let Cole off the hook multiple times by swinging at some bad pitches. Of course, maybe his stuff is better than I perceived it to be.

I agreed w/Tito's pitching moves even though the one guy wasn't so effective after replacing Quantrill. The latter makes me nervous when he pitches. I think he leaves too many pitches up and it's only a matter of time before someone hits a bomb off of him.

The Jose baserunning blunder was by all accounts rare for him, but it was a killer.

It seemed like there was a ton of energy in the stands.

LOL at the trash talking that has invaded baseball. Naylor's trot was hysterical even though I was pretty shocked. Of course, the Yankee left fielder who is a rookie has been over the top w/his junk throughout the series.

I thought we should have slid in feet first after Rizzo blocked the bag. Screw him.

Well, it's going to be a battle of bullpens. I'm hoping Milk's prediction turns out to be true. It should, but then again, you never know in baseball.

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I’ll tell you one guy (for the Yankees) who is going to be relied upon who is a total wild card: Domingo German. He’s going to have to pitch tonight and he is literally a crap shoot.


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Are you talking about Bader? Guy seems like a total meatbead.

The Naylor thing was embarrassing as well.

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I am not sure about the spelling, but Cabrera, the rookie left fielder. He was staring down Bieber and the skinny kid in the two previous games and even grabbing his junk while staring at them AFTER striking out. Pathetic.

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Yeah he seems like a dope too.

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Cole is a good pitcher.

However, they just faced him and a couple things stood out. Cole's plan was clear. Get ahead with high fastballs and and get them to swing at out of the strike zone breaking balls when behind in the count.

They interviewed Tito and he said "got to lay off the breaking balls down."

They did not adjust very well and kept chasing.

I felt we had a chance in the 8th. But. Jose could not lay off the inside back foot slider.

Game five will be empty the roster. All hands on deck. This will be a managers game. Moves made on matchups.

The Guardians can not get into high scoring game. They do not have the lineup. In order to win this game they have to stay close.

That will give them opportunity to get that key run.

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They interviewed Tito and he said "got to lay off the breaking balls down."

I agree w/Tito. I brought that up in my earlier post about us bailing him out.

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A manager’s game clearly favors Cleveland. They just need to do anything possible to keep the ball in the ball park IMO


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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The first game against Cole was very revealing.

I kept texting my brother. "Cole's breaking ball is out of the zone." "They have to sit on fastballs early."

The second time Cole was all fastballs early then went to his braking pitch after the second time through the lineup.

Easier said than done but they never adjusted.

I have never Cavale pitch so I don't have a clue about him. His latest numbers show a guy who gives up 2 runs in 5 innings.

He has to keep guys off base. The Yankees are power loaded. If you give up homers make them be solo.

Got to stay close in this game.

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j/c...


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One thing I forgot to mention earlier was Arias. I'm not getting on him because I believe he is rather inexperienced at first base and he did make a really nice play. But, his inexperience showed up twice. Once when he backed up on the throw from Jose and another time when his foot wasn't on the bag. An experienced guy would not make those mistakes.

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Go Guards!!


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These types of games are really tough.

Wait. Begin. Stop. Wait. This can wear on you.

Could be a long hard night.

We need heros.

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worst case scenario... their pitchers getting another day of rest.


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I've in nyc. There isn't going to be a game with this weather. Radar shows rain till 11



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