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Ballard is in ass-saving mode. The Andrew Luck retirement was abrupt but that guy has made bad QB decision after bad QB decision. Getting dusted QBs like Rivers, Ryan and Wentz have been laughable and his drafts in recent years have been gross. Hell, they might have been better just sticking with Brissett.
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Knew this was coming.
I think Ryan is toast but my God, he is way better than Ehlinger - not sure whose decision it was to sit Ryan and start Elhinger, but he sucks. They invested a lot into their O-line and not working this year.
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That's a surprise. I know they have been struggling this year but when you don't have a QB and your top 2 offensive weapons (Taylor & Pittman) have been banged up all year that is to be expected.
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Some coaches can get the most out of average and sometimes even less than average QB's and some coaches can not. Reich can not.
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Kingsbury probably next. I think Reich is a better coach in the NFL … they have had some OLD, BAD quarterbacks
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Kingsbury probably next. I think Reich is a better coach in the NFL … they have had some OLD, BAD quarterbacks I agree....Kingsbury could be the next one to go. Wonder what Detroit thinks of Campbell too.
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Yikes. Irsay might be back to popping pills again!
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Obviously this move is to accomplish nothing more than to fill the seats in the stadium for the rest of the season. It would be like naming Joe Thomas HC if Stefanski were fired. Certainly an Irsay move that really doesn't surprise me.
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Irsay is a fool. I'm surprised Saturday agreed to take the interim job. He has a good gig going w/ESPN and some other endeavors. He will be questioned on every move he makes due to his lack of experience. He has a great reputation. Hate to see it sullied. One thing, players won't be back-talking him. Dude can handle himself.
Btw---I'll miss Saturday's Tuesday morning pancakes. LOL
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Obviously this move is to accomplish nothing more than to fill the seats in the stadium for the rest of the season. It would be like naming Joe Thomas HC if Stefanski were fired. Certainly an Irsay move that really doesn't surprise me. That's how I see it too, plus this gives them some game time to see if Saturday can actually coach in the NFL before deciding who gets the job next year.
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I suppose it depends on what you see as the weaknesses of the prior coach, and what you want out of the new coach. Saturday is reputed to be an incredibly strong leader.
It is obvious that they did not even potentially see the next head coach on staff. They wanted to look at an outside presence. Maybe it works, and maybe it doesn't, but having a guy who went from UDFA to mutli time All Pro could be the example the team needs. Maybe this is what the front ofice feels was missing .. that drive to be great.
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I just read that no one on the Colts staff has called offensive plays in the NFL before. Amazing!
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"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Kingsbury probably next. I think Reich is a better coach in the NFL … they have had some OLD, BAD quarterbacks I agree....Kingsbury could be the next one to go. Wonder what Detroit thinks of Campbell too. I honestly think Detroit needs to keep Campbell. They play really hard every week, and are starting to build as a team. Just have to learn how to close out games.
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You have to wonder if McDaniels will be one and done too
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Well, unfortunately, the NFL is about all winning and Reich isn't pulling his share of the load I suspect. I do find it interesting (as far as coaches on the hot seat) that people living in glass houses are throwing stones at others. Since 2020:
IND - Reich:_____ 23-19-1 .5465 1 playoff appearance (2020) 0-1 - (included current record 3-5-1) CLE - Stefanski: __23-20__ .5349 1 playoff appearance (2020) 1-1 - (included current record 3-5) ARI - Kingsbury:__22-21__ .5116 1 playoff appearance (2021) 0-1 - (included current record 3-6) SFO - Shanahan:_22-22___.5000 1 playoff appearance (2021) 2-1 - (included current record 4-4)
In 4 1/2 seasons', Reich compiled a 41-35-1 .5389 record including 2 playoff appearances and a 1-2 record in those playoff games. Obviously, to some teams - winning is very important.
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Always admired Frank Reich.....thought he got a bum deal.
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This is shocking... not that Reich was fired but Saturday was named interim coach... no coaching experience in College or NFL... will be entertaining to see what happens
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Always admired Frank Reich.....thought he got a bum deal. I thought Reich was a good coach, too. Dude has a winning record and has made the playoffs. The fans in Indy probably were complaining and the owner is a jerk. Hopefully, our FO and owner won't listen to the know-nothings who want Stefanski fired.
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Always admired Frank Reich.....thought he got a bum deal. I thought Reich was a good coach, too. Dude has a winning record and has made the playoffs. The fans in Indy probably were complaining and the owner is a jerk. Hopefully, our FO and owner won't listen to the know-nothings who want Stefanski fired. The fans out here are complaining. They've started NINE QBs in the last five years and feel like the org is a rudderless ship. Before 2015, there was only one season with something other than "Manning" or "Luck" on the back of the QB jersey.
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The fans out here are complaining. They've started NINE QBs in the last five years and feel like the org is a rudderless ship.
Before 2015, there was only one season with something other than "Manning" or "Luck" on the back of the QB jersey. Awww. speaking on behalf of all DTMB members, I think, " Cry me a river dude." and... I998 - Not Manning or Luck.
Can Deshaun Watson play better for the Browns, than Baker Mayfield would have? ... Now the Games count.
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Weren't they viewed as a model franchise and Ballard a great GM not that long ago?
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For once... and perhaps for the first time since 1999...
-It's a kind of comfort to see mid-season headlines like these that don't originate from 76 Groza. CAR doing mid-season purges, as well.
I want all my DT Dawgs to witness these things happening. Elsewhere. Then, I want them to think back on the past 20 years of Browns history.
These two franchises in 2022 turmoil epitomize what CLE has looked like for an entire generation of Browns fandom.
Please let us not get sucked back into that quicksand.
We have so much of what we need to become a good thang.
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I agree, but am not overly worried about that. Despite the record, the Browns are on a upward trajectory. I don't think we will make any major changes, at least at the top.
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Going live to Jim Irsay....
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What a total joke of an organization lol
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Yeah Frank got hosed, should count himself lucky he doesn't have to deal with that anymore.. I'd take him over KS any day. He's done more with less than KS has had
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Wow, surprised by Joe's take and him expressing it.
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I wish he wasn't so wishy-washy and would just take a stand, lol
I don't think Joe has ever taken such a strong stance publicly on anything before. He's always been pretty good at playing the diplomat, so if he's coming out this hard, you know it struck a MAJOR nerve.
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Take note to what it takes for any NFL coach when you talk about prioritizing wins.
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You can argue it equates to the opposite.
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We must keep in mind what the franchise goals are of the Colts with a record of 3w-5L-1T.
While the owner can make a statement that he is not trying to "tank the rest of the season" ... by putting someone in charge who is not necessarily qualified to be a HC, the owner can honestly claim that he thought the results might be more positive.
Also, the subject of "intentionally tanking" has been brought up at some NFL meetings this year. I would think that NFL owners realize they need to be careful about how they approach the subject of tanking, knowing they don't want losing to appear to be intentional.
Then again, maybe Irsay knows Jeff Saturday better than we give him credit for...maybe Saturday is ready for the big league...who knows how the players will view such a move..?..
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And your opinion about competence has nothing to do with a person prioritizing winning either.
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