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Originally Posted by dawglover05
Hopefully this pushes the center-to-moderate Republicans to rethink who they want to have be the figurehead of their party...

In theory I would hope so too. But thus far they seem to think the more inflammatory and divisive a GOP candidate is, the more they represent what they "feel and believe". Moderate Republicans have been punished heavily for saying or doing anything that goes against the grain. I too would like to see some sanity restored.


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Originally Posted by Swish
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just looking at the current results, looks like the GOP might want to be a lot less militant on illegal immigration. latino's are coming into the country...and voting Red. those latino numbers in florida for the gop is crazy.


every time I have talked to Latino immigrants in FL (in the last year), they talk about how much they hate socialism/communism and that they want border protection/closed borders.


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I - for the life of me - can't figure out why we place the future of our country into the hands of so many octogenarians and late-septuagenarians.

yea your IQ definitely higher than mine. i had to google both words cause i never heard them before lololol


rofl

I don't know about all that, bro. I think I was 135 last I checked - like 15ish years ago - but all the big words and BS that I use still doesn't make up for my frequent airheadedness.

lmfao uhh yea, mine is 114. beyond basic hahaha

Numbers are just that. I wish I had your penchant and initiative for running side businesses and investments.

and i wish i had your ability to understand contracts and global logistics and supply chains. but thats why social media like this board exist, bringing us together!


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Originally Posted by superbowldogg
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speculation:

just looking at the current results, looks like the GOP might want to be a lot less militant on illegal immigration. latino's are coming into the country...and voting Red. those latino numbers in florida for the gop is crazy.


every time I have talked to Latino immigrants in FL (in the last year), they talk about how much they hate socialism/communism and that they want border protection/closed borders.

think there's enough pull for the GOP to swap it up a bit, strategy wise?


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I really hope that Trump doesn't run. He triggers way too many people in negative ways and I can't stand him.

I could live with DeSantis if he throws his hat in the ring. He has done a lot of really good things for Florida - tons of people love him and he has a lot of support.

Personally, I am still hoping for an independent or middle-ground Dem/GOP that can generate enough interest from both sides.

I'd love to see:

my body my choice
my money my choice
small federal government
love is love
term & age limits
racism/sexism is stupid
immigrants need to enter our country legally
smoke all the weed you want
own as many guns as you want
flat taxes with no deductions

I agree with all that. Problem is, besides owning as many guns as you want, you’ll never see any of that with a Republican in the Oval, never ever, even a middle ground Republican. And we shouldn’t have to worry about trump or Desantis. They should both be in jail by 2024.


look at us agreeing on stuff

Although, i'm not sure what Desantis did to go to jail?


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Well somebody started this whole "lock her up" thing and it has spread like wildfire. Now everybody thinks their political opponents should be locked up.


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Originally Posted by Swish
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speculation:

just looking at the current results, looks like the GOP might want to be a lot less militant on illegal immigration. latino's are coming into the country...and voting Red. those latino numbers in florida for the gop is crazy.


every time I have talked to Latino immigrants in FL (in the last year), they talk about how much they hate socialism/communism and that they want border protection/closed borders.

think there's enough pull for the GOP to swap it up a bit, strategy wise?

I think there is enough I really think the DEM/GOP could carve out a middle group and let both parties go as extreme as they want while the rest of us vote like normal-ish Americans.


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Chabot finally goes down in my district after 28 years in office. I'm frankly surprised.

Edit - he lost in 2008 but came back in 2010.

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Originally Posted by superbowldogg
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just looking at the current results, looks like the GOP might want to be a lot less militant on illegal immigration. latino's are coming into the country...and voting Red. those latino numbers in florida for the gop is crazy.


every time I have talked to Latino immigrants in FL (in the last year), they talk about how much they hate socialism/communism and that they want border protection/closed borders.

The Latino community is diverse and needs to be considered as such. The Latinos in California, Arizona and that area tend to from Mexico and central/south American countries. They have a very different outlook than those in Florida that come from cuba and the surrounding areas.

The Latino community in Florida is well versed in Castro and how the socialist promises led to him coming to power. They fear that what the democrates are promising is a ruse to create a Castro like regime. So they tend to vote republican.

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that would be dope


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Originally Posted by Jester
The Latino community is diverse and needs to be considered as such. The Latinos in California, Arizona and that area tend to from Mexico and central/south American countries. They have a very different outlook than those in Florida that come from cuba and the surrounding areas.

The Latino community in Florida is well versed in Castro and how the socialist promises led to him coming to power. They fear that what the democrates are promising is a ruse to create a Castro like regime. So they tend to vote republican.

You nailed it!


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Originally Posted by Swish
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I - for the life of me - can't figure out why we place the future of our country into the hands of so many octogenarians and late-septuagenarians.

yea your IQ definitely higher than mine. i had to google both words cause i never heard them before lololol

smfh


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Trump now once again calling for protests.

Michigan says it is prepared for disruptions after Trump calls for protests in Detroit

https://www.mlive.com/politics/2022...trump-calls-for-protests-in-detroit.html



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Hopefully this pushes the center-to-moderate Republicans to rethink who they want to have be the figurehead of their party...

In theory I would hope so too. But thus far they seem to think the more inflammatory and divisive a GOP candidate is, the more they represent what they "feel and believe". Moderate Republicans have been punished heavily for saying or doing anything that goes against the grain. I too would like to see some sanity restored.

Do non-MAGA Republicans still exist? I thought they all got ran out of the party? And if they do still exist, wtf centrist!


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Thought he wasn't back on twitter?


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Originally Posted by dawglover05
Chabot finally goes down in my district after 28 years in office. I'm frankly surprised.

Edit - he lost in 2008 but came back in 2010.

Had to read that twice, thought you said ChatBot. lol.


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Thought he wasn't back on twitter?

He's not yet, that's a post from Truth Social being quoted on Twitter. Why would I not tell the truth about him being on Twitter?


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Originally Posted by superbowldogg
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Although, i'm not sure what Desantis did to go to jail?

He deliberately had people trick immigrants here legally to board a plane and being flown without their knowledge to Martha's Vinyard. They thought they were going to Boston for expedited work papers.

Migrants on Martha's Vineyard flight say they were told they were going to Boston

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The migrants said a woman they identified as "Perla" approached them outside the shelter and lured them into boarding the plane, saying they would be flown to Boston where they could get expedited work papers. She provided them with food. The migrants said Perla was still trying to recruit more passengers just hours before their flight.

https://www.npr.org/2022/09/15/1123109768/migrants-sent-to-marthas-vineyard

What he did was against the law and he's being investigated for it.


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Thought he wasn't back on twitter?

Hopefully OCD's explanation covered that. A Twitter user forwarded something he had posted on his own social network.


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Michigan's gubernatorial MAGA candidate Tudor Dixon who lost put that ad out. You can't make this crap up. rofl

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Originally Posted by OldColdDawg
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Chabot finally goes down in my district after 28 years in office. I'm frankly surprised.

Edit - he lost in 2008 but came back in 2010.

Had to read that twice, thought you said ChatBot. lol.

Either would have been just as effective in that role over the past couple decades.


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If that is seriously a commercial, I don't think SNL could have made a parody that rivals that.


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I still find this one confounding.....




The thing is that it's a rip off of a Paul Harvey program where he did what is called "So God Made A Farmer". Which I think is one of the greatest things Paul Harvey ever did. Of course I grew up in farm country and know just how hard those people worked and clawed through life. And you get to know their hearts...



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I probably won't spend much time in here. I have somewhat outgrown my need for political nonsense ..... but I guess I like a dose every few years.

My evasluation of the 2 candidates:

Tim Ryan had 20 years in Congress, and I can count his meaningful accomplishments on one hand and have fingers left over. He is a guy who has donme nothing but go to college, and then run for Congress. He fulfilled what the party masters had for him, though, that being a young guy who would be a reliable D vote, and who would be around for 20 years.

I pass on that. I have some friends who like him, and some who don't. I could not vote for him. I think that him being out of Congress is a plus for the area and the nation.

I don't reallyy like Vance either. That said, he is new, and the old did not work. Hopefully he'll be effective, but if all he is is a reverse Ryan, an unthinking Republican vote ..... well, after 20 years of Ryan, I can probably take that.

As far as policies, I agree with Vance on energy. Yes, we can invest in electric cars and such, but our power grid is at least decades, and probably more, away from being able to support 50% electric cars. We also have to generate electricity, and the best way in Ohio is either nuclear or Natural gas. Ignoring our energy reserves is foolish, and short sighted, and it will hurt this country. (just as high gas prices are right now)

I also am a financial conservative. He is talking that talk. Let's see if he walks that walk. Ryan never would, obviously, so maybe Vance will be better there.

I am also a strong advocate for a strong border. Yes, we can invite others in, but it should be on our schedule, not theirs.

I also agree with him on abortion. I think that this is one of the most vile things ever invented. (and it's been around since the Roman Empire, in Christ's time, if not earlier) We should be to the point where we value the unborn, and don't just exterminate them in the name of convenience. Don't want to get pregnant ..... use birth control, or don't have sex. It's really pretty simple. I do struggle with rape and incest exception ....... but do 2 wrongs make a right? If I had to, I suppose I could allow an exception in this area, or where the mother will die if the pregnancy goes full term ... but that's about it.

If Vance proves to not carry through with these positions, then I will vote against him in the next Senate primary.


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You democrats got a way with it again. Congratulations!

Democrat Cheat Strategy: Gathering Ballots More Important Than Earning Votes

Big Picture, 2020 Midterm Elections Highlight the Distinct Difference Between Ballots and Votes
November 9, 2022 | Sundance | 105 Comments

As the political discussion centers on the 2022 wins and losses from the midterm election, one thing that stands out in similarity to the 2020 general election is the difference between ballots (counted) and votes (cast). It appears in some states this is the ‘new normal.’

Where votes were the focus the Biden administration suffered losses. Where ballots were the focus the Biden administration won.

Perhaps the two states most reflective of ‘ballots’ being more important than ‘votes’ are Michigan and Pennsylvania. Despite negative polling and public opinion toward two specific candidates in those states, Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer and Pennsylvania Senate candidate John Fetterman achieved victories. The Democrat machines in both states focused on ballot collection more heavily than votes cast.

Since the advent of ballot centric focus through mail-in and collection drop-off processes, votes have become increasingly less valuable amid the organizers who wish to control election outcomes. As a direct and specific result, ballot collection has become the key to Democrat party success.

The effort to attain votes for candidates is less important than the strategy of collecting ballots.

It should be emphasized; these are two distinctly different voting systems.

The system of ballot distribution and collection is far more susceptible to control than the traditional system of votes cast at precincts.

A vote cannot be cast by a person who is no longer alive, or no longer lives in the area. However, a ballot can be sent, completed and returned regardless of the status of the initially attributed and/or registered individual.

While ballots and votes originate in two totally different processes, the end result of both “ballots” and “votes,” weighing on the presented election outcome, is identical.

While initially the ballot form of election control was tested in Deep Blue states, through the process of mail-in returns under the guise and justification of “expanding democracy,” a useful tool for those who are vested in the distinction, I think we are now starting to see what happens on a national level when the process is expanded.

The controversial 2020 election showed the result of making ‘ballots’ the strategy for electoral success. Under the justification of COVID-19 mitigation, mail-in ballots took center stage. Ballot harvesting by Democrat operations was one term for the outcome.

Democrat party officials and political activist groups knew how to exploit the opportunities within the new system of ballot distribution and collection, and when you combine that with a massive legal pressure campaign to accept any and all forms of ballots, well, you can see how they are dependent.

Now that ballot collection has been shown to be a much more effective way to maintain political power, Democrats in a general sense are less focused on winning votes and more focused on gathering ballots.

When ‘ballot organization’ becomes more important than ‘vote winning,’ you modify your electoral campaign approaches accordingly. It might sound simplistic, but inside the distinct difference between ballots and votes you will find why refusing debates is a successful strategy.

If you are trying to win votes you could never fathom campaign success by refusing to debate an opponent. However, if your focus is centered around ballot collection, the debate is essentially irrelevant.

It’s time for voters to start seeing the difference between elections decided by ballots and elections decided by votes. Perhaps the 2022 midterm election will awaken people to the two completely different election systems.

You can vote at any scale you want, but when ballots are more important than votes – the election will always favor the latter.

Michigan and Pennsylvania voters are likely very unhappy today, while Michigan and Pennsylvania ballot providers are smiling.

https://theconservativetreehouse.co...ct-difference-between-ballots-and-votes/

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2024

Newsom vs DeSantis
Blue vs Red
California vs Florida
West vs East
Communism vs Fascism
Bad haircut vs Bad haircut

Here it comes!!


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I gotta say, the fact that a guy who pulled out a fake police badge during a debate and came up with lines such as "Don't we have enough trees?" has a legitimate shot at becoming a United States Senator is about the perfect illustration of how bad our politics have gotten.


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I'll NEVER vote again!

Rejoice with your BIDENflation until you are left with nothing but the street.

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whats a conservative tree house?


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Vance isn't new YTown. He's the exact same brand that has ignited the hate and division we are seeing now. Only the name and face are new.


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I'll NEVER vote again!

Rejoice with your BIDENflation until you are left with nothing but the street.

The normal screaming and pounding of the table with no substance to go along with it. Or as I call it, the usual.


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whats a conservative tree house?

According to their own headliner on the site they're a "bunch of rag tag conservative misfits". You know like discussing Steve Bannon's election war room and crap.


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I also agree with him on abortion.

Really and I mean REALLY. He says a woman should stay with her husband even if he is beating her? He says a woman should have her baby even if she is raped or that it might kill her? Yep I am sure God agrees with that. Vance is a horribile excuse for a human being.


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Trump threatens to reveal things 'that won't be very flattering' about Ron DeSantis if he challenges him for the GOP nomination in 2024

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/trump-threatens-reveal-things-wont-212346964.html

this who conservatives view as their leader. smh.


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SOME conservatives. Others don't even like Trump.


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Trump threatens to reveal things 'that won't be very flattering' about Ron DeSantis if he challenges him for the GOP nomination in 2024

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/trump-threatens-reveal-things-wont-212346964.html

this who conservatives view as their leader. smh.

Get your popcorn ready. They should be able to put each other in jail by 2024.


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Originally Posted by FloridaFan
Thought he wasn't back on twitter?

He's not yet, that's a post from Truth Social being quoted on Twitter. Why would I not tell the truth about him being on Twitter?

My reply was toward pit's post from the Jocelyn Benson post, sorry for the confusion.


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Originally Posted by Swish
Trump threatens to reveal things 'that won't be very flattering' about Ron DeSantis if he challenges him for the GOP nomination in 2024

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/trump-threatens-reveal-things-wont-212346964.html

this who conservatives view as their leader. smh.

The funny thing is, the media comes up with more dirt every year on any candidate, so I doubt DeSantis cares what Trump has.


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He has classified documents proving it!



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Sorry about the snarky reply. I’ll try to do better.

Still the young vote is notoriously a no show. But after looking at the numbers it looks as if the young vote was a record turnout in 2020 and even more in 2022. Seems the republicans are having fewer voter turnout election after election. The big lie. The red fall. A hard pill to swallow for the majority of mainstream Republicans.


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