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I hate Trump and he is not the conservative party's leader.

Granted, I'm also more of a Conservative leaning Independent.

I hear Trump is going to tell everyone that DeSantis uses Hunts instead of Heinz.

In all seriousness, though, gotta love it when our democracy consists of one guy trying to bully his way to the nomination by subjugating and blackmailing any would-be competitors.

He's definitely the current leading force in the Republican party.

Now, that being said, I get your angle if you're saying that Republicans aren't conservative, because they're not. Nothing about their debt explosion during the last administration, nor their big government stance on social and religious issues is conservative.

Few things from Colorado.

Boebert still losing, but only by 2,000. 95% reporting. hopefully Frisch hangs on, but no doubt there will be recounts.

Dems new district that they got to create was supposed to be an easy win for them. There guy is only winning by 1800 votes right now.

Dems have a super majority in Colorado. Tabor is the only thing keeping them from going full California with taxes.

Mushrooms looking to be decriminalized. Not called yet, but currently 40,000 vote lead.

Lastly, the head scratching moment of the election. In Colorado Springs there was ballot measure 300 and 301.
300 was to allow selling to recreational marijuana
301 was to tax sales of marijuana

301 looks like it will pass, 300 looks like it will not. Not sure what people plan to tax if they voted against selling it.

I'm not defending anyone here, ok?

Each and every political ad/flyer I have seen or gotten in the mail, is purely an attack ad/flyer.

bro, you have to realize that when you make a whatabout comment like that, it's an indirect defense of the person/topic we're specifically talking about.

put it like this. everybody on I-90 and route 2 drive like it's the daytona 500, doing atleast 15 over. sure, it's wrong, but it's also the flow of traffic at the time. however, one guy, the SAME guy, keeps going 40+ over, riding other people's asses and swerving in and out of traffic.

yes, both are technically wrong, but the guy driving reckless is clearly WORSE than everyone else because he's causing far more stress and increasing the likeliness of a car accident due to selfish driving behavior.

but when other drivers and passengers call that out specifically, you're basically going "but i mean, other people are speeding too."

come on bro.

Well, I disagree,but whatever.

I was simply trying to say there is no "this is what I want to do to help" advertising. It is all "my opponent is the devil' advertising.

Politics these days is nothing but screaming "you guy is evil".

But your guy is Evil.

Of Course!

https://twitter.com/KateSwak/status/1590530456973619200

Maricopa County in Arizona has yet 400,000 ballots to be counted, can you believe this?
Oh yes, and its Katie Hobbs that happens to be overlooking the election...now how convenient is that?
Even Florida with its large population had their votes counted by 7:30pm last night!

I see what you’re saying and I hate attack ads. The difference in what I’m saying though is that you have a candidate directly threatening another one to not run, and they’re in the same party. If he just began posturing and using attacks, that’s one thing, but now it’s more of a “you need to be loyal” thing, which is part of his MO, honestly.

but but you see the data base next to the thing...it must be true!

Fair enough. I understand.


I've had a terrible day. Friend died in a grain auger incident. Bro in law is the one that found him. Nephew tried to help................

That's a different story. Not politics. I'm having a bad day. Truthfully, I don't care about politics right now. Nothing will change anyway.

Holy crap man! That’s freaking terrible. Prayers to your friends family. Hope your day tomorrow is better.

Amen.... similar to PA electing a senator who is on record for saying 'The eagles are so much better than... the eagles'....

there truly have to be better options out there... too many races have two horrible choices...

Not sure why you want a 3rd party unless you want to see changes where run-off elections are in place. I don't think it would be healthy to have a string of Presidents who might not have 51% of the vote.

I don't have any concrete evidence, but I also think Dems are less likely to stray from the Dem ticket so a independent would be more likely to pull votes from the republican candidate. I am not saying that is a good or bad thing...it could be seen as both. It could be viewed and brand loyality or not thinking.

That could turn if a socialist ran and pulled 30% of the Dem vote.

As opposed to the communists on the ticket now?

I have not caught up on much of the news or election results yet - have seen/heard "the big Red Wave" doesn't seem to have been as big as advertised? Hoping all my many votes helped.

lmao im so confused. you'd think the massive gains the GOP made in florida and ohio, as well as some surprises in NY would have them celebrating, and yet they acting like The Rapture just happened and they all got left behind hahahahahahahha

We've gone back and forth a few times now about the desired number of political parties, but the bottom line is that the two-party setup we have here narrowing the choices to candidates like jaybird and I discussed is at the height of our political problems.

We've already had 2 republican presidents elected who didn't even have the majority of the votes much less 51% of them. Suddenly that bothers you?

frump is done.

The republican party will decide to cut bait and move on. Murdoch will jump on Desanta and there goes frump.

His power hold is broken. Desanta will be the 2024 nominee. The question will be what will Biden do?

If he runs. He will most likely lose. If he decides to not run. My guess is Gavin Newsom will be the democratic candidate.

I don't know who would win but I think the independents will be the ones who will swing the election.

Just thinking...one thing that could be interesting to see, if the Republicans take back the majority of the Senate and the House is the dynamic between McCarthy and McConnell. If McCarthy takes Speaker and McConnell does not take Majority leader, then it won't be as big of a deal. However, with McCarthy being more of the Trump faction and McConnell being more of the garden variety faction, the two could butt heads, if both are the majority.

Have we ever had it before where both houses are controlled by one party, yet the party of one house caucuses against a bill passed by the other (does that make sense)?

As much as people either hate to admit it or refuse to admit it independent voters always decide elections. The percentage of voters who identify being associated by a political party hovers around 75%. That's the very high end estimate I've seen reported. The low end estimate I've seen is that as of 2020 is that 41% identify themselves as independent.

Maybe we're sort of saying the same thing but I don't actually limit it to being between these two individuals. I see it as wondering if we will see strfie between what I call the Trumpian wing of the party and traditional wing of the party. At least what's left of them.

Yeah, I agree. I think that the two of them would be the respective "mouths." I'm wondering about McCarthy, though, too. The guy is clearly an ultimate opportunist given his about-face after Jan 6th. He just wanted the Speaker job. Now that it looks like he'll get it, and there's blood in the water surrounding Trump, I do wonder if he does a bit of an about-face, but it's all speculation on my part and way too early to tell.

I think Republicans in general have been accepted for doing "about faces" in general by their voters. From Kari Lake to Hershall Walker they all have seemingly reinvented themselves to suit what their voters want. I certainly agree with you about McConnell however. And when it comes to his comments right after the Jan.6th attack on the Capital verses now., Lindsey Graham is right there with him.

Haha, given the comments he has made on the public stage, I'm not sure Herschel Walker has the mental wherewithal to pull off an about-face.

Which brings up an interesting point. Shouldn't there be some floor as to minimum requirements to serve in the U.S Senate? I know that the current law in the state of Georgia is to have a run off election if a candidate doesn't win with at least a 50% margin. But I do have an idea. I suggest they give the two candidates an equivalency high school exam. G.E.D. exam.

Any candidate who can not pass a basic high school equivalency exam would be exempt from serving and would nullify the run off election due to a total lack of qualifications to serve in the senate.

Or maybe there should be a rule about how many conspiracy theories you believe in....6 should be a max? Or maybe a higher number?

They should swear that the past elections have been fair and honest and guided by the laws and recognize the voice of the people and their properly elected officials.

That doesn't sound like a bad idea but then a lot of the house and senate seats would be empty.

Walker could not pass an 8th grade equivalency test.

Hell they should make voters pass a high school equivalency test. Even then I am not sure that would help.

I use to give our public schools more credit than I do now. When I hear these people attending trump rallies. I am like what planet are these people tuned into. The things they say are so off the wall that it stuns you.

Politics, politicians, and the shows that cover them. It is so frustrating.

One would think that issues like clean air and water would not be partisan. That everybody would want clean air and water. That we would all feel the responsibility to leave the planet a better place than when we arrived.

But Nooooo. Dumping toxic stuff in our water is somehow political.

Walker pays for an abortion. Then runs on a platform of pro life no exceptions. And who backs him? porn star trump.

What a world.

TBH, I think half of America would struggle to pass the 8th-grade equivalency test. America has become dumb as dirt. And I will never understand the desire to remain uneducated or under-educated in this country, but half the country seems to embrace it across the board.

If America wants to ensure that we have officials who are elected by a [base-level] informed constituency:
-She should require that all Her voters pass the test required of every immigrant who seeks citizenship in this country.

If it's a minimum requirement for outsiders wanting to get in, it should be an absolute minimum requirement of those born from within.
Fair is only fair.

If American citizenship is a privilege, it should be an earned privilege.
And if it isn't earned by absolutely every single citizen, it's not an actual meritocracy.
Which means citizenship is still a privilege unfairly entitled to some, at the expense of others.

Pass the Real American Citizenship Test... or step TF back, b#- you haven't earned the right to have your voice heard.

just sayin'...

So Trump interfered with the 2018 midterms to get two GOPers elected in FL. Hmm, pretty sure that's against the law.



How is stopping the count not against the law?

This would eliminate half of all voters, mostly republicans.