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There were several, and I do mean several guitar players who were MUCH better than Eddie in his prime. And I know the excuse given as to why people thought he was so great... "He influenced many of today's guitarists!" That's because they kept playing Van Halen songs until it made people's ears bleed so they were exposed to so much of his music.


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That's a great sing and intro Peen.


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I am a big fan of this guy.


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Originally Posted by PitDAWG
There were several, and I do mean several guitar players who were MUCH better than Eddie in his prime. And I know the excuse given as to why people thought he was so great... "He influenced many of today's guitarists!" That's because they kept playing Van Halen songs until it made people's ears bleed so they were exposed to so much of his music.

I’d like to know who those “several” guitarists are. Seriously would love to hear them, because they must be phenomenal. Only ones who came close were Hendrix and Rik Emmett. Maybe Jeff Beck. Not Page or Clapton.

You obviously don’t know guitar genius when you hear it.


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To a degree the greatest arguments are subjective.

If you play guitar it maybe a style that influences you. If are a listener maybe it is the genre.

BB King, Albert King, Buddy Guy, Stevie Ray Vaughan, Mark Knopfler, Ry Cooder, Joe Bonamassa, Robert Johnson, Chet Atkins, Chuck Berry, Wes Montgomery, Yngwie J. Malmsteen, Jerry Garcia.


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Originally Posted by lampdogg
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There were several, and I do mean several guitar players who were MUCH better than Eddie in his prime. And I know the excuse given as to why people thought he was so great... "He influenced many of today's guitarists!" That's because they kept playing Van Halen songs until it made people's ears bleed so they were exposed to so much of his music.

I’d like to know who those “several” guitarists are. Seriously would love to hear them, because they must be phenomenal. Only ones who came close were Hendrix and Rik Emmett. Maybe Jeff Beck. Not Page or Clapton.

You obviously don’t know guitar genius when you hear it.

Heck lampy, Eddie just mixed chords and reverbed his way through songs. Maybe add in some feedback.


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I have to go back to a Beatles song. I Feel Fine is the first known recording where feedback was deliberatly used in the composition of the song. Paul hit his bass note and Lennon stuck his guitar in to the amp to get the buzz before hitting the famous opening lick.



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Originally Posted by lampdogg
I’d like to know who those “several” guitarists are. Seriously would love to hear them, because they must be phenomenal. Only ones who came close were Hendrix and Rik Emmett. Maybe Jeff Beck. Not Page or Clapton.

You obviously don’t know guitar genius when you hear it.

Randy Rhoads

Zakk Wylde

Joe Satriani

Yngwie Malmsteen

Derek Trucks

Joe Bonamassa

Duane Allman

Jeff Beck

Jimmy Page

Jimmy Hendrix

I could go on but that will do for starters.


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Originally Posted by bonefish
To a degree the greatest arguments are subjective.

If you play guitar it maybe a style that influences you. If are a listener maybe it is the genre.

BB King, Albert King, Buddy Guy, Stevie Ray Vaughan, Mark Knopfler, Ry Cooder, Joe Bonamassa, Robert Johnson, Chet Atkins, Chuck Berry, Wes Montgomery, Yngwie J. Malmsteen, Jerry Garcia.


My grandfather played with Chet Atkins one time. It was one of those highlight of his life type memories. He talked of up to his death.

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Not gonna argue this further. Said my piece, some people don’t know that they don’t know. Not a biggie.


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He should have been proud.

Chet was a monster guitar player.

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People are entitled to their views on music.

I don't think there is a right or wrong. It is not a matter of knowing what they don't know.

There are great guitar players all over the world. Many are not known by the general public but have had a heavy influence on other musicians.


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He was. I have the guitar my grandfather played as well.

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Crazy uncle Ted has a lot of good stuff...

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Originally Posted by bonefish
People are entitled to their views on music.

I don't think there is a right or wrong. It is not a matter of knowing what they don't know.

There are great guitar players all over the world. Many are not known by the general public but have had a heavy influence on other musicians.


Of course music is personal taste and of course we are all entitled to own views. But there are times when it is, in fact, a matter of someone not knowing what they don’t know.

that’s like saying someone’s opinion matters if they think Michelangelo is a lesser painter than some guys selling $10 paintings at a tourist trap. The cream rises to the top, greatness gets established through the test of time.

Sometimes, it’s clear.

Sorry that I keep assisting in throwing this thread off the track.


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Originally Posted by PitDAWG
Originally Posted by lampdogg
I’d like to know who those “several” guitarists are. Seriously would love to hear them, because they must be phenomenal. Only ones who came close were Hendrix and Rik Emmett. Maybe Jeff Beck. Not Page or Clapton.

You obviously don’t know guitar genius when you hear it.

Randy Rhoads

Zakk Wylde

Joe Satriani

Yngwie Malmsteen

Derek Trucks

Joe Bonamassa

Duane Allman

Jeff Beck

Jimmy Page

Jimmy Hendrix

I could go on but that will do for starters.

You can add Mark Knopfler to that list...
Ooops, sorry bonefish. Just saw your earlier post. Nice call by the way....

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Originally Posted by lampdogg
Not gonna argue this further. Said my piece, some people don’t know that they don’t know. Not a biggie.

No problem my friend. At least for my part, I was only poking you in the ribs a bit.


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Originally Posted by bonefish
To a degree the greatest arguments are subjective.

If you play guitar it maybe a style that influences you. If are a listener maybe it is the genre.

BB King, Albert King, Buddy Guy, Stevie Ray Vaughan, Mark Knopfler, Ry Cooder, Joe Bonamassa, Robert Johnson, Chet Atkins, Chuck Berry, Wes Montgomery, Yngwie J. Malmsteen, Jerry Garcia.


Chuck Berry thumbsup cool


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Yeah, some commercial guitar player must be the best and anyone that thinks differently doesn't know better? That's rich.


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Yeah, some commercial guitar player must be the best and anyone that thinks differently doesn't know better? That's rich.

What instruments do you play?

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What does having the ability to read and write music and understand the composition of music have to do with that? Are you going to start stalking me from thread to thread now? I sang and played in bands for decades. I don't even owe you that much of an explanation.


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Originally Posted by PitDAWG
What does having the ability to read and write music and understand the composition of music have to do with that? Are you going to start stalking me from thread to thread now? I sang and played in bands for decades. I don't even owe you that much of an explanation.

You spoke authoratiativly about who was or was not great at guitar. By your standards one must be able to demonstrate expertise to make such a distinction.

"Oh sure you played an instrument" rofl

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I'd say almost 30 years in bands, asking good guitar players who their influences were, the ability to read and write music gives me a pretty good basis. A much better basis for a valid take on great guitar players than you have on constitutional law for example.


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Originally Posted by PitDAWG
I'd say almost 30 years in bands, asking good guitar players who their influences were, the ability to read and write music gives me a pretty good basis. A much better basis for a valid take on great guitar players than you have on constitutional law for example.

Your knowledge of constitutional law is so small you couldn't judge who actually has any experience.

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I can certainly judge that you don't.


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To get back on topic, it sometimes take me a bit to get warmed up. This one of the all-time greats IMO



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I really liked the Motown sound, and this lady is the Queen. A great opening.



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I do not think any of the guitar players I listed or Pit listed fall into the category of

valour Elvis paintings.

All are legit heavyweight guitar players who are recognized as such.

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Originally Posted by PitDAWG
I can certainly judge that you don't.

No you can just judge "you said it so it must be" and you would again be wrong.

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How about back to music and enjoyment of music.

Good intro to a song that cooks:


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Easy boys,,,,it's a fun thread.

And to go back to guitar players....nobody mentioned James Burton. You need to check out that "chicken picker".

He played for the much underrated HOF'er Ricky Nelson, Elvis, and John Denver.

James Burton can play the AXE. As Lampy says, those who know, know.

He wasn't the headliner, but he was the guy the headliners wanted in their band.


OK...here is a good one with Vince Gill and Albert Lee...a couple of others not mentioned as players.



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One of my favorite intros of all time. There are actually 2.....an acoustic intro for the first 2m, the a blow your mind electric intro at the 2:16 mark. That's the one I'm referring to.



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Good one!

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I always liked Tull.

I saw them about 15 years ago in town at a local annual festival. The cool thing about Tull is they play as they sounded on the records. With most bands is isn't the same live.

I get it, but I appreciate bands who play the sounds, then can do it live.


You have to understand the days are long and years are short for me at this point. Some will understand and all will understand in time, it may have been 25 years.

None the less, a good concert.


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Those two were responsible for a LOT of great intros.


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This is a great thread

I love all of the posts you all have put up !

Great intros great job you all

I'm enjoying the memories and the places and things

I was doing when I first heard all of these

Incredible intros

My favorite of all time is Jimi Hendrix

The Star Spangled Banner

Not even sure if it's considered an intro

But hey it's Jimi

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I had to decide which and that was a task.

The Stones don't have long intro's but they have great beginnings on almost every song.



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