DawgTalkers.net Forums The Archives 2022 NFL Season Looking Back: Browns 10 Bengals 23 Post Game

And as the commetaters stated when the play was extended how our recievers just stand there after thier routes and not try to get open. We don't have killers on our WR corpse, Cooper maybe.

They didn't have Tee Higgins and Tyler Boyd went out on the first play of the game. And the Browns still gave up a deep touchdown broken coverage to a what's his name 4th or 6th depth chart guy.

Mac I agree about the DT help we could have AND should have signed but to me if you trade 3 1st round picks for a QB AND then sign him to an unprecedented 230-million-dollar contract WITH the baggage you knew he was bringing wouldn't that indicate winning is a big priority?

Well, maybe Higgins and Boyd have been teaching the other WR's!!

I've been saying this about Stefanski all season and it is usually met with incredulous indignation.

If KS priority isn't winning, then he shouldn't be our HC. Winning should be everyone's priority on the Browns.

It's Baker's Fault.... I've listened for years how Baker makes our OL worse. He's till doing it !

And, the DW led team, lost. Period.

I'm not a big stats guy, unless we're talking W's and L's. I know other things factor in to the record. I get it. Some don't though. DW played great? We lost. DW, played average? We lost. The team, if we're to keep things fair, is judged by the qb. So far, rusty DW has sucked. He can't put the team on his back.

Our O-line must need a little time to adjust to DW. We always need an adjustment period for everything sort of like the 1st 7 or 8 games for the D every season!!

I hope you are right. Everyone on this board does. But what he did 2+ years ago for a different team is of no use to anyone now.... by the beginning of next season dude needs to be playing like a top 5 QB or the whole move was a disaster.

The offensive line got it's rear end kicked today plain and simple.

Yes Watson was bad, but have we ever seen a game where Chubb averaged 2.5 yards per carry? I'm sure it's happened but it has to be just a handful of times. He simply had nowhere to run today. We lost this game with penalties and at the line of scrimmage.

j/c

Can't wait for the "other" thread later in the week - the one with the positive spin to tell us all what a champion we have as a HC .... after all we shouldn't get bogged down in patterns of [censored] play calling and games managed by Stefanski we should look at each game in isolation and I bet there are TONS of positives we should take away that none of you realized before.

What if he is top 7? Still a disaster?

The Browns run game has been really bad and it was bad again today. Getting yourself in second or third and long situations does not set a QB up for success.

He yelled at Tony Fields.

Never a similar post from you with Baker as QB.

Correct.

We'll be told how great the O played, and what a great game coach Stef called, and how great the Browns are...................while we lost.

F Kevin Stefanski. Don't even waste our time with a "post game Q&A". Just hand out the usual script to the reporters and call it a day. You are a clown that is basically stealing Haslam's money by misrepresenting yourself as an NFL head coach. Yes it is that bad and yes I am being serious. What a waste of talent by an organization that has no clue how to even organize itself. The front office BLOWS. The coaching staff BLOWS. I don't know how Haslam can continue to flush his money down this toilet. It has to be an embarrassment to him. I know it is to the City of Cleveland and Browns fans everywhere. It sucks being a Cleveland Browns fan. It really does.

They also commentated a couple of times that Watson had Wrs open but didn't throw the ball for whatever reason.

Just to beat a dead horse.....the OLINe misses POCIC

It is a bit funny to look at Baker’s numbers his first two years and Watson’s numbers his first two years. I am NOT saying we should have kept Baker and I am NOT saying Baker is as good as Watson. I just find them interesting.

Bingo! Best thing Haslam can do for the fans of Cleveland is sell the team. He, like his front office and coaching staff, is clueless. He simply doesn't know anything about running an NFL franchise. Someday I hope the Cleveland sports scene is littered with great ownership. Someday.

Because he is a Baker fan. Not a Browns fan. He invented excuse after excuse for Baker and is already trashing Watson. Who did not see that coming?

Probably ....

https://www.nfl.com/stats/player-stats/

Top 7 this year includes Cousins, Goff and a Jurassic Brady. And once you get outside of the top 3 you are starting to hit a plateau where you could argue several QB's a better than the others in that tier despite the W/L record and stats .... and the biggest guaranteed contract in history together with three 1st round draft picks doesn't meet expectations being "Good" or in a group of 'very good'

Hey Arch ... maybe I'm a knuckle head for not remembering but I never had you pegged as a huge Baker fanboy?? Were you?

I know. Thats why I asked.

(clears throat)

Well, this thread went south in a hurry.

Yeah. It gets really old encountering childish bickering in every thread I enter when I just want to read Browns fans' football insight. My 6-year-old twins behave better than what I often see here.

so one thing that was an eyesore was Ward getting torched all game. He had that one big hit on Chase, but overall he was bad.

but other than that, our defense did enough and created enough opportunities for us to win this game. us running into the punter was just horrible. but man i just dont like how we didnt commit to our run game. and then all the flags....come on stefanski damn.

Swish, I actually thought Ward played well. He had tight coverage against one of the very best WRs in the league all game long. Burrow made some incredible throws into tight coverage. I do understand that Chase's numbers were good.

So when will poster not to be mentioned face his/her time out??? Just asking the mods...

Same quote since week 2

j.C:

- Watson looked much, much better his second time around. Hopefully, he continues to progress at the same rate from game 1 to 2. That said, he holds the ball too long.....Not sure if that has always been an issue or if its getting back into the swing of things.

- The O line was trash for most of the game.

- Perrion Winfrey looked like he was disruptive on the interior. Clowney and Garrett had nice games.

- Not sure what the hell Deion Jones was thinking.

- Not a fan of the refs today.

- Wondering if Watson playing shotgun and the formation might negatively affect Chubb's production.

- Chase had a great game.

- That roughing the punter seemed to change the mood/momentum of the game.

- The team had way too many penalties. Ugh.

Our offense has really stalled. The OL is struggling and the run game is basically a shell of itself.

Watson was better, but still nowhere close to a franchise type QB.

Ward was Owned by Chase

Coaching decisions were head scratching

And the refereeing was giving Cincy points IMO

And once this is realized, folks can view the Browns for what they are and have been, a tragicomedy or a dark comedy if one is a true cynic.

The Haslams have not a clue of what they are doing nor have they identified the type of culture they wish to establish. They're simply guessing and throwing money around hoping that somehow, someway, they stumble across the magic formula.

The team sucks without Watson's rust.

I knew how this game was going to playout when I saw that STUPID 4th down pass by Brissett. CKS baffles me. Take the damn 3 points!

No, he doesn't let Watson run for it, he selects a cold QB off the bench to throw a low percentage pass.

The Browns is The Browns and another wasted season gone.

First and foremost, the Browns are a poor organization with a defeatist culture.

Second, the Browns are a really poorly coached team with a bottom 5 head coach and staff with a couple of outlier position coaches.

Number 1 leads to Number 2. It's really hard imagining a scenario where the Browns ever achieve consistent success as long as the Haslams are the owners. Depo is also a big problem. His fingerprints are all over this team. But that again goes back to Haslam for allowing it.

9, 6, and 5 years into Bitonio's, Garrett’s, and Chubb's careers ...flagship players at their positions...and they've got one playoff appearance to show for.it. That's a travesty. If Haslam moves forward with Stefanski next season he his giving his approval that incompetence is accepted. I fully expect Stefanski to be the coach next year.

Mac, you could be right. Maybe JH thought, because he was told, that all we needed was a QB like DW to make us legit contenders and he believed it. We all could see back in the spring after the draft we needed help at DT. If we could see it why didn't the people running the team see it. It certainly was more evident during the preseason games.