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If Stefanski can petition the league to play Wentz every week, the future is bright.

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Great coaching performance on all sides of the ball and ST.


Tackles are tackles.
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We won! Happy New Year everybody.

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Deshaun has not progressed at the rate I think we all hoped he would.

That said, Amari Cooper is legit.


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Another late season meaningless win. Great this team
Gets the Eric Mangini Award..
Can't wait to see the " just wait till next year we will have
The best offense in the AFC NORTH " comments

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Yes, this will be a false sense of optimism after beating a team with one hand tied behind their backs.

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Refs, feel free to merge with the other existing thread, or vise versa.


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The offense = bad in the first @uarter
the offense = bad in the front of the 3rd @uarter.

The HC botched the end of the game running out of the clock.


Can Deshaun Watson play better for the Browns, than Baker Mayfield would have? ... Now the Games count.
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Watson may not have got back to pre-layoff form.... and maybe he had some wide open receivers to hit today (in addition to some that were tighter) but some of the throws today looked very, very pretty.

The only reason why I watched the game was to see DW and if he is improving. The result probably guarantees another year or more for Stefanski - and as you say, Cooper is legit. Baring one insane year by Flash, Cooper to me is easily the most complete and best WR we have had since the return, what I enjoy most about watching him is that he seems always, and I mean always) to be in complete control of his body, route, hands, positioning in relation to the coverage.


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Watson was very good in the 2nd half, we couldn’t get the ball downfield in the 1st but our HT adjustments seemed to work. Chubb over a hundred, and the run D, for the most part, had a great game. We gave up too many sacks in the first half but their front is beast-like.
Nice to see Cade with no misses


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I believe the Browns org wants to win out.

I also believe that they used this game and next game to get Watson as many reps in different situations as possible

As has been said, these games are like practice games to help Watson for the start of next season

Didn't see any quit in the players

Delpit is stepping up

Was a little concerned on how the OL watched Watson escaping from a sack instead of getting in some blocks to help him out

Washington may be struggling at the QB position, but they have talent and in no way is a push over

Winning this game shows support from the players to the coaches and fans !

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Kevin now 2 and 0 against that red team.
how many wins does he have against the Ravens, one?

He beats the NFC teams at a rate too often to not be the AFC being the team plays in the AFC.


Can Deshaun Watson play better for the Browns, than Baker Mayfield would have? ... Now the Games count.
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Thank you Washington for starting Wentz.


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The Browns are undefeated in 2023. LOL

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Browns are undefeated this year!


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Ron Rivera gets a game ball for starting Wentz.

Right now Wentz is broken.

Jones and Ragland have played well.

I did not expect a win, I think the outcome would have been different if Heineke played.


There will be no playoffs. Can’t play with who we have out there and compounding it with garbage playcalling and worse execution. We don’t have good skill players on offense period. Browns 20 - Bears 17.

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Good 2nd half. OUr offense finally was clicking and moving.

Cooper is legit as is Chubb … of course lol

Washington is awful


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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I think we are starting to see why we got Watson.


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Originally Posted by Ballpeen
I think we are starting to see why we got Watson.

Amen. And it ain't all about the stats. If fans can't tell the difference between Watson and 'average', or even 'good', they need their eyes checked.


HERE WE GO BROWNIES! HERE WE GO!!
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Not impressed, Wentz is shot but a win is a win I guess

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Originally Posted by FATE
Originally Posted by Ballpeen
I think we are starting to see why we got Watson.

Amen. And it ain't all about the stats. If fans can't tell the difference between Watson and 'average', or even 'good', they need their eyes checked.

Watson was pretty average today at best. Held the ball too long, was afraid to throw, ran into multiple sacks, and couldn't outrun a backup DL multiple times. His first TD pass came on a broken play, his second was a nice read, and his third was a nice scheme by Sterfanski. Took until midway through the third quarter to get going and passed for under 200 yds.

I think fans should be concerned first about Stefanski and second about Watson with Stefanski. While today wasn't a step back, I don't know that it was a step forward.

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Had holiday company and only got to watch the first few offensive snaps. Good to hear Watson looks somewhat better.


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I won’t dispute all your points, but we were under a lot of pressure in the first half and couldn’t get guys open down the field. I thought he made some picturesque throws in the second half, threw for three TDs and got the W. I’m good with his production this afternoon in your nation’s capital.

You got your wish and Mayfield is gone, you’re been ranting about KS for weeks but he isn’t going anywhere, you gonna use Watson as your new trolling target?

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Originally Posted by Ballpeen
I think we are starting to see why we got Watson.

What did you see in this game that Brissett couldn't have done and was worth the near quarter of a billion guaranteed dollars and 3 first round draft picks?


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Looks like we got a new member of the Rishuz fanclub.

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When you give up 3 1st RD picks for a QB, being
Good isn't good enough.at this point I don't see anything
About Watson through his handful of starts that defines
Special or elite. He struggled in GOOD WEATHER today for half
A game vs the Commanders
He looks like he lacks confidence as he scans the field
Like he is unsure where the ball is supposed to go.
Next year he has to be better than Burrow In order
To win the North

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Originally Posted by DaveyD
Originally Posted by Ballpeen
I think we are starting to see why we got Watson.

What did you see in this game that Brissett couldn't have done and was worth the near quarter of a billion guaranteed dollars and 3 first round draft picks?

Biggest thing for myself if you don't mind me chiming in on your question to Peen

Was a 4th Quarter that kept an offense scoring and in the game not to lose

It is little things like this that the Browns have to overcome

a little step winning the 4th quarter battle

It's a win

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Originally Posted by Rishuz
If Stefanski can petition the league to play Wentz every week, the future is bright.

I would agree with you, but the FO is still working on the petition last week for: opponents having to pass it less than 20 times all game, so Reggie Ragland can look like the next Michael Singletary.

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Yes.

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I’m only guessing, but I have a hunch that at half-time we schemed to get some deeper plays open. The 1st Watson-Cooper TD shifted momentum big-time. Great throw, The Amari Shake and to the house we go.


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I don't understand how fans of a team can be so negative towards the team they root for

I sometimes think some fans are so miserable that losing is what they root for

The Browns won today ! Other teams have won

Pats win by two

KC wins by three over Denver

Saints win by 10 over the Eagles

The Chargers are just killing the Rams

Jets are losing to the Seahawks

Packers spanking the Vikings

The Browns win by 14 and most posts are negative

What the hell ! It's a win today

Hopefully the Browns win for a sweep next week

Sad thing is

There will be Browns Fans crying moaning and bitching if they do

GO Browns !

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I don't want to win. I want the playoffs. I don't want wasted seasons. I don't think Stefanski is a good coach and I cannot envision him leading a team to the Super Bowl. This is why I am negative.

We've wasted back to back seasons with arguably top 5 players at DE, RB, CB, and G. We have a top ranked OL.

I just don't enjoy wins that are meaningless. That's just me and my fandom. I don’t begrudge anyone who enjoyed today. I just view it differently.

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Rishuz, there have been many injuries on the Defense side of the ball

I feel ya and I know

But ya got to keep the positive in the fight

Eventually it will work out

I know most of us are getting older and the fear of not watching a Browns SB scares us

If I pass before a SB, Heaven or hell

Imma gonna celebrate like a MF !!!

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You know my love will Not Fade Away.........


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200 against the steelers ?

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Lol that would be nice


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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We actually have people making excuses as to why we won and saying Washington sucks. They don't suck. They were in the playoffs and we knocked them out.

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As I've always said, a win is a win. I liked the win today. But, I don't believe the washington team was "in" the playoffs if they won today.

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We won. That's what matters and it feels good. Hope next week is the same.

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