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I can't imagine a new DC coming in and not getting his own guys under him. I'm sure they'll keep 'some' holdovers, but between scheme, base, and the type of players the DC prefers there will certainly be more changes.

No doubt. It's seems to be rare that a coach keeps many, it any of the former coaches. I guess I wouldn't be shocked if we keep 1-2, I wouldn't be shocked if we released all of them.

The senior bowl is on Feb. 4th. I would hope we have this wrapped up at least a week before that to allow the new guy to review film on current players and at the senior bowl for scouting purposes.

I like this insight, 'Peen. There must be some sense of urgency doing these candidates, or at least an eye on the clock. I want thorough, but it can be dragged out too long. Our first candidates are interviewing with multiple teams; nothing to make them wait while we beat the bushes a few more times. The premium we assign to getting group feedback and talking to many folks as we engineer consensus is admirable, but hasn't proven overly effective here. It is swell to throw out there in pressers at points like this to rationalize decisions which pan no gold after the fact. Boom or blame?
I seem to recall searches that dragged on as candidates got hired out from under us because we dawdled and were late to the trough. I freely admit that some hasty decisions fill positions here, but often emplace a weak candidate in a poor fit. But we need to be ready to move on the man we want. I suspect that Cowher is still unavailable. But getting our man sooner lets him scout and build his units, because we don't have the stuff on the roster we need yet. Some are keepers, but some need to be excused, replaced, or downgraded if they can't be coached up. On top of all this, a big part of my sense of The Game holds that it isn't the scheme chats that we have had and shall have again, it's how you play it, how you game, compete, and adjust. I am left with the impression for the whole off-season that we didn't compete intensely and consistently enough. Like "The Replacements" movie, our new DC needs players who bring "heart, miles and miles of heart." Good hunting!

Of course that bolded part is a lie. It's true I'm no longer a fanatic. And I ask you, what part of my post was a lie? In order to be troll you have to make things up. I certainly did not. Your post shows that it's you who is the actual troll in this case.

Has Stefanski's record gotten worse in the two seasons after his first season or not? Yes it has. What is an 8-8 and 7-10 record other than mediocrity?

I know you don't like facts that are not all sunshine and roses. Facts that don't blow sunshine up your panties. So you try to attack the character of those who post them.

And while I do still support the Browns I can no longer call my level of support that of a fanatic. That stopped when they paid a kings ransom to make a sexual predator the face of this franchise. At least tell the truth and stop lying about the people you disagree with.

No doubt the search needs to be through and not rushed. If it takes longer, it takes longer. I want us to hire our #1 selection, or the #1 selection available to us if some people take other jobs.

Counseling may help.

Then you should certainly seek some counseling.

Gonna be a long off season...but board humor should help..!

I cannot believe that BF could turn down a legit offer from us to see what else is out there. I would think anyone looking for a coaching job or just better their lives, would jump at the chance to come to Cleveland!!

Wholeheartedly agree with signing our best choice or best available. I just want us to know that candidate and not miss out in the interest of further inputting. And, I believe that choice should get a fair chance to strive for what he will want and he will require.

Flores has an interview w/Arizona to be the HC. I'm sure he would prefer that title over DC.

j/c...

I'd say you and several others should seek help then. Maybe figure out why it's so easy for you to support DW... EVERYBODY else I talked to at least had some struggle with it. You are the only one I know that immediately turned on his victims and started defending him. And that is also why so many have relentlessly gone at you since. And I'm not saying this to get in your face or ball you out in any way; I just want to clear up some misinformation certain posters have been spreading daily around here. Watson, the man, and Watson, the player, are actually one and the same. And we each have to decide how we feel about that. I'm fine with how you feel about Watson now; early on, I wasn't, truth be told. And you must admit, you don't like how we felt about him. I hope you get past it soon.

Desai just seems too happy and carefree in that video.

I can read it now when the Browns next DC is hired
Here are the quotes to expect from him at the podium

1.we are going to be a attacking defense
2. We are going to punch you in the mouth
3. We are going to play smart
4. We are going to play fast and physical
5.11 bodies on the ball carrier
6. We are going to be unpredictable at times
7. We are going make QBs uncomfortable
8. It's my job to put players in positions to succeed
9. Iam honored to be here. The tradition is rich
Nlah blah blah
10. You have to play physical in the AFC NORTH
11. We will be the best tackling team ever
12. We will be accountable
13. I emphasize turnovers

Did I miss anything what might be said?

Sounds like a decision will be announced today

I did not turn on the victims. Another lie by one of the board's trouble makers. I said I would wait for all the information to come out and allow the legal system to do its job. I did not once say that Watson was innocent or guilty.

The reports about Desai and Flores seem somewhat contradictory. I can't see how Flores is the favorite and a hire could take place today before he even interviews w/Arizona. Or, am misreading things?

He can be the favorite to be the Browns DC on the basis that someone believes he is unlikely to get a HC gig at Arizona or anywhere else he interviews. It'd be like the KC Chiefs being the favorites to win the Super Bowl even though they haven't made it to the Championship game yet.

I heard a long stint on local Charlotte radio this morning about their search for a HC - Ben Johnson appears to be a front runner - but also how the Panthers have interviewed to replace the DC position already. Steve Wilks if he does get the HC gig, needs a DC. If Wilks doesn't get the HC gig he will be gone. The radio hosts talked significantly about Vic Fangio -- I don't know if the Browns have thought about interviewing him, but I guess I had not realized [1] How much experience as a DC he has - something like 19 years [2] Out of those 19 years the radio hosts said he had a top 10 or top 5 defense in something like 12 or 15 years out of 19. It certainly sounded like he is a very viable candidate and I wondered if anyone knows why he wouldn't be on our radar?

I started a thread on Fangio during the season when there was discussion of firing Woods. The thread only drew a couple of replies, but there is information on Fangio in the initial post if you--or anyone--wants to read it.

I haven't heard anything about the Browns being interested in Fangio. I think he is kind of crusty, but I'm not sure if that has anything to do w/the lack of interest or not.

Here is the link to the article: https://www.dawgtalkers.net/ubbthreads.php/topics/1978724/vic-fangio#Post1978724

I can only speak for myself - but the decision to move on from Woods during the season was one thing, but we would have replaced him with someone in house until the end of the season, then begun the search. I wasn't ready to speculate on replacements at that time.

I understand. I didn't want Woods fired during the season, either. I was just providing some information on Fangio in case you were interested.

Talking to yourself again? I told you counseling may hekp


You said you would accept Sue Robinson's decision. Instead you accept the punishment but refuse to accept the very findings that punishment was based on. Revisionist history won't change that.