DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Palus Politicus FBI Raid pt. 2

No I don't ignore the word intent.

By retaining these documents, for years, intent could be construed. By moving them away from secure facilities intent could be construed.

Sadly too many politicians do things that would get someone else jail time because they are "important". The only time it seems they get done for stuff is when the party thinks they need a sacrifice for political show, or they annoyed the wrong power broker. The system is broken.

construed , is that legalies for jump to?

Yeah people like trump, Roger Stone, Steve Bannon with other extreme scum, and 1000’s of insurrectionists didn’t have anything to do that right?

He held documents for 6 years or there about. But he had no "intention" on keeping them?

Oh wait.. I forgot... TRUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUMP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


There does that make you feel better?

Did Biden destroy or flush any?

Does it matter? If one guy allegedly does something illegal it doesn't mean the other guy gets a pass when he allegedly does something illegal.

Oh sorry...

TRUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUMP!!!!!!!

Feel better now?

Did I mention trump in my reply? And yes. it does matter.

You aren't clever enough.

You are pretty obvious.

In that case….

Pot meet kettle.

Yet another PitTrope.

That's how you label anything accurate that you don't like. When you have no other explanation, just put some negative label on it. In your world that solves everything for you. News flash. It doesn't.

No, that's how I label your lazy pot shots like "pot meet kettle".

You cannot have a discussion with merit so you say things like "pot meet kettle" or "you aren't very good at this" or any other the other tropey things that fall off your keyboard.

For the record, when discovered, Bidens team turned them over immediately.. No games

This conversation is getting STUPID...

Biden, having documents that he shouldn't does NOT absolve Trump from his actions of wrong doing both for stealing documents then denying he had them, then by accusing the FBI of planting them and then by demanding they be returned.

When honesty is called into question, you go with the one that didn't whine like a little baby when his hands got caught in the cookie jar. I always stand by the guy that stood up and is ready to deal with whatever is happening.

You also forgot….. the subject of this thread is about your deplorable chosen one.…..truuuuuuuuuuuump

How documents were returned does not matter. The taking and keeping is the point and where the crime would exist. If there was mishandling of documents there should be sanctions.

Accuracy comes in many forms. Sorry you don't like the way it's presented.

I think you confused yourself.

Now all that needs to be done is find out who it is that actually took them, under whose direction and if they were known to be there by whoever you propose should be sanctioned before they were turned over.

^^ This is the mainstream media approach...

Joe didn't put them in the box.

Joe doesn't know who put them in the box.

Joe didn't know he had them.

I think you’re in denial. Your chosen one will save you. Lol

Only obviously you weren't paying attention to what I posted. Nowhere did I say any of that. He may have known all of that. The problem is you don't know the answer to that at this point any more than I do.

Neither were you, I said that's the mainstream media's approach. It wasn't an indictment on anything you did or didn't say.

"The problem" is not a problem though. You can only play stupid up to the point of them being moved originally. If you try to act like you had no idea they were moved around numerous times... (1) It's simply unbelievable, especially since they were in so many different places. I mean, you can say you didn't know someone smuggled drugs in your luggage -- but when we find the drugs under your dresser, behind the couch, and in the trunk of your car; no story will add up to 'gee, I don't know how that happened'.

(2) Even if you can sell ^that^ story (msnbc will eat it up) -- it only serves to prove you even more negligent in handling top secret documents.

All of the mainstream media’s approach. When we get the Fox News and Goper approach on trump’s actions over his taking classified docs. “Move along, nothing to see here.” Goper’s crack me up.

Remember when….

I actually based my response on the arrows you pointed upward to conclude you were responding directly to what I posted which I think you were. I believe your analogy is a bit contrived. I certainly have and do support the special counsel investigation of what happened here. I support that investigation expand which ever way the evidence leads it. The exact same way I supported it for the previous president. And I'm actually willing to post it here and not ignore it. That is quite a contrast than what we saw from others when the situation was reversed. Please forgive me for not jumping to huge conclusions when we have no details to base a conclusion on at this time. I'll leave that to you and certain others.

Trump Defends Empty Classified Folders Found At Mar-A-Lago As ‘Cool Keepsake’

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alison...a-lago-as-cool-keepsake/?sh=29078b991b5d

Former President Donald Trump offered a new explanation Wednesday for why the Justice Department found dozens of empty folders for classified documents at his Mar-A-Lago home in August, claiming he kept them as souvenirs, as the ex-president tries to downplay the extent of the sensitive White House records discovered at his Florida estate

Late 2022…. https://reason.com/2022/11/17/trump...go-automatically-made-them-his-property.

And this what Fox News is covering today. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/tr...why-gop-presidential-campaign-slow-start

your trump colored glasses are OBSTRUCTING your view.

Your TDS is obstructing your thoughts.

The crime is taking with the intent to possess them in an unauthorized place. Once that happens the rest is just silly pandering, hand waving and straw arguments. I also wish to see a process that is in place play out, I am am not one to just scream someone is guilty because the media, or someone on a message board says they are. We have a process from accusation to conviction in this country, and it should not be circumvented so people can have their feelz.

No

I will say this.

The most concerning thing is that the system for tracking classified documents is apparently flawed. It is a mess if no one knows where the documents are located.

This really is the most concerning of it all.

BS... Trumps way shows CLEARLY he had intent to STEAL those documents. Bidens way shows he didn't. But you can't allow yourself to look at it that way. If you did, you'd have to give up on Trump

.

So you only care Trump did something bad.

If someone had illegal possession of documents that is a crime, you don't get points off for "returning" them nicely. It doesn't work that way.


TRUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUMP!!!!!!!

Seriously, is that all you got out of what I wrote? Yikes. By the way, Trump is spelled with only 1 U Any more than that shows TDS

True but you get points off for destroying some.

I kinda does and there is lots of legal precedent. So there is that....
Oh and Biden didnt have them illegally there is precedent for determining that also

You don't know that. You also don't know, given the amount of time how may of the documents in Biden possession where given or sold away. Now I have seen reports of documents being held in California. I don't know how credible that might be, but it's out there.

This probably going to be a slow drip story that will consume the President and the Dems for a long time. I wouldn't be surprised if we start to see reports from the dems about the President suffering from diminished mental capacity.

"You also don't know, given the amount of time how may of the documents in Biden possession where given or sold away"
Really just make things up now? I also dont know how many documents he peed on and ate. There that helps my case.

Yes I do know that. His actions incriminate him. His and his teams attempts to hide and ignore the courts show his intent. It's clear to me that he did this with some other agenda in mind.

As for the slow drip thing, yeah, probably will haunt them for a while.