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I am going to miss Jacoby What a refreshing change after the previous guy.

TO ALL DAWGS READING THIS THREAD:
Where do you see Mr. Brissett's future taking its next step?

I think he handled his business better than most folks would have expected... but not handled well enough to earn him a starter's job on another team. Perhaps a one year inked agreement as a bridge QB while some team brings along their next QB1, but not much more than that. Had he won enough games to place CLE in the >.500 house before Deshaun came back, he might have a stronger case for a big payday. I'd love to see him stick here on a contract that makes all parties content. He has chemistry/history here, bros love him, and he's proven himself a capable cog in the machine, should CLE #4 go down for a game or three.

Better football minds than mine: pro's/con's to keeping Mr. Brissett? Money/cap issues? Feasibility?

In my naïve opinion, you don't just let proven assets walk.


3... 2... 1... discuss, plz.

I will, too.

Every report about him that came from the locker room confirmed that he was smart, funny, personable and professional. The kind of guy every team wants on its roster.
I would enjoy reading an article telling us that he's been picked up for next season, although I rather doubt such a thing will come to pass.

TO ALL DAWGS READING THIS THREAD:
Where do you see Mr. Brissett's future taking its next step?

I think he handled his business better than most folks would have expected... but not handled well enough to earn him a starter's job on another team. Perhaps a one year inked agreement as a bridge QB while some team brings along their next QB1, but not much more than that. Had he won enough games to place CLE in the >.500 house before Deshaun came back, he might have a stronger case for a big payday. I'd love to see him stick here on a contract that makes all parties content. He has chemistry/history here, bros love him, and he's proven himself a capable cog in the machine, should CLE #4 go down for a game or three.

Better football minds than mine: pro's/con's to keeping Mr. Brissett? Money/cap issues? Feasibility?

In my naïve opinion, you don't just let proven assets walk.


3... 2... 1... discuss, plz.

And I think actions speak the truth.

Clem, I would love to keep him. However, he deserves a chance to start. He was 8th overall in QBR, which is regarded as the most complete ranking mechanism of all that are out there. He ranked 6th overall in PFF QB rankings, which is another highly respected source. We were in the top 6 in offensive efficiency while he was playing. He deserves to get paid starter money.

My only concern would be is that he never came close to performing like that w/NE, Indy, and Miami. I think Stefanski's offense and usage of QBs was huge and that likely won't be duplicated elsewhere. With that said, while I wish we could keep him, I hope he gets paid.

This is crazy; why can't the Browns ever catch a break like this? This is an article about the starting QB for the Niners today, Brock Purdy. The kid is on fire and looking like a top-10 starter. Selected last in the draft.

Brock Purdy Was Mr. Irrelevant. Now He’s Mr. Impossible.

Joe Montana. Steve Young. Yelberton Abraham Tittle. Some of the best quarterbacks to ever set foot on an NFL field played for the San Francisco 49ers, but none did what Brock Purdy has done this season.

You want wins? Purdy is one of only three rookie quarterbacks since the merger to start five or more games and go undefeated as a starter. The two others played for the Steelers: Mike Kruczek in 1976 (6-0) and Ben Roethlisberger in 2004 (13-0). Both rookie quarterbacks’ teams went on to play in the conference championship.

Are touchdowns more your thing? Only Deshaun Watson had a better TD rate in his rookie season (9.3 percent vs. 7.6 percent for Purdy), and Hall of Famer Dan Marino checks in at a distant third (6.8 percent).

Perhaps you prefer a measure of overall efficiency? Purdy’s passer rating of 107.3 is the best ever for a rookie with 50 or more pass attempts. Or maybe you don’t like raw passer rating (I can’t really fault you). Purdy is also tops all time in rookie Passer Rating Index,1 which adjusts for player era, beating out Marino by 3 points (128 vs. 125). He’s also first in adjusted yards per attempt index, besting Roethlisberger by 1 point (127 to 126).

And Purdy did all of this after being picked dead last in the 2022 draft? Somebody make it make sense.

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Starting the year as the backup quarterback to Jimmy Garoppolo, who was himself the backup to Trey Lance, Purdy’s eventual opportunity was part of a trend that shaped the league in 2022. Sixty-eight quarterbacks started at least one game in 2022 — the second-most starters used in a season in NFL history, according to ESPN’s Stats & Information Group.

Due in part to all the injuries, teams attempted passes at the lowest per-game rate in 13 years, and that lack of passing led to teams posting the fewest passing yards per team game (218.5) over that period. But it wasn’t just passing volume; quarterback efficiency also suffered. Leaguewide adjusted net yards per pass attempt dipped below 6.0 for the first time since 2017, another season notorious for the number of injuries to top QBs.

Yet despite being a third-string, seventh-round talent — just the sort of player you’d expect to contribute to the leaguewide QB slump — Purdy transcended the league’s environment and strung together five games of production that is unprecedented in league history. It’s difficult to overstate just how surprising this is.

As a point of comparison, consider the case of Watson, a quarterback who missed most of the past two years due to a suspension stemming from accusations of sexual misconduct by more than two dozen women. It shouldn’t be surprising for even a formerly elite player to have trouble playing at a high level physically and mentally after a layoff of that length. That makes Watson’s return late in the season a reasonable comp for the hurdles Purdy had to overcome when his number was called.

And while it’s not a perfect comparison — the 49ers defense is superior to that of the Browns, and Kyle Shanahan is a better coach than Kevin Stefanski — it’s pretty clear that coming into the year, most would have bet on the former All-Pro first-rounder putting up better stats than whomever Mr. Irrelevant wound up being.

Instead, over the last five games of the regular season, Purdy bested Watson in every meaningful statistical category.


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Remarkably, Purdy’s YPA, passing touchdowns, TD-to-INT ratio and off-target throw percentage either tied for or led the league over that period. Meanwhile Watson’s 19 sacks — and never forget that sacks are a QB stat — was the highest total in the league over the final five weeks.

All of which is to say that being a quarterback in the NFL is hard, even if Purdy somehow made it look sort of easy. And maybe that’s because, well, it kind of was. There’s evidence on tape that Shanahan did everything he could to make the game as simple as possible for his rookie starter. Purdy’s best plays by EPA came on calls like rollouts, which gave Purdy defined, half-field reads, or on passes to running back Christian McCaffery and tight end George Kittle that featured more yardage after the catch than through the air. There were even wild orbit motion, double-fake passes with a “Y-leak” thrown in that went for scores.

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Still, Shanahan’s genius for scheme only explains so much. Eventually Purdy had to stand in the pocket, process the defense past his first read, and deliver the ball downfield on time and on target.

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Those are the throws we expect NFL starters to make — throws that teams draft QBs in the first round to execute. The fact that Purdy made them with regularity when the league took 261 players before him is revealing. Not even the 49ers — the team that ultimately took a chance on Purdy (with its ninth selection of the draft) — can escape embarrassment completely. After all, if any QB can run Shanahan’s system, why spend three firsts and a third-round pick to trade up for Lance just a few years ago?

The truth is, no one really knows anything about projecting quarterbacks to the NFL. If they did, Brock Purdy would be impossible. Instead, the Niners are 9.5-point favorites over the Seahawks this weekend with a starting QB who was drafted after four punters and a placekicker. And instead of impossible, Purdy and the Niners somehow appear inevitable.

Check out our latest NFL predictions.


https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/brock-purdy-was-mr-irrelevant-now-hes-mr-impossible/


Ranking top five Mr. Irrelevant players in NFL history as 49ers' Brock Purdy makes playoff debut vs. Seahawks

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/...k-purdy-makes-playoff-debut-vs-seahawks/


49ers' Brock Purdy to remain starting QB rest of playoffs even if Jimmy Garoppolo cleared to play, per report

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/...my-garoppolo-cleared-to-play-per-report/

Our QB, 230 Mil Guaranteed, theirs on a Mr. Irrelevent, selected dead last in the draft, rookie deal! I get so sick of being a Browns fan when I see things like this. Nothing like that happens here. NOPE. That's why part of me thinks it's likely that DW never does squat on the Browns just because of our failure history. They got a kid that should never have seen the field this year playing like Tom Brady.

IMO that's making a big deal out of nothing anyway. ^
Brock Purdee may play well or not, but getting all weirded out that he came out of nowhere is making a big deal out of nothing.

and It doesn't change how you/we can predict what will become of others who come from different backgrounds.

Ridiculous - like 5 other non-injured QBs in the AFC more worthy of being an alternate in Pro Bowl than Tyler Huntley. In on particular order.

1. Carr